Real ID Deadline May 7 For Air Flight

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Ayla

Ayla

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lewisc said:
Some clerks might have accepted a regular photocopy. NY Real ID required very old divorce degrees to document name changes back to the birth certificate. It's logical to assume a marriage license requires documenting prior divorce.


People move. How many licenses were issued based an out of state license.

I THINK THIS IS OVERKILL, particularly for women.
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If a woman doesn't have a passport and took her husband's name with marriage, it is a pain in the to track down all the documents needed to obtain a Real ID. I am so glad we all have passports!

I have strongly encouraged my daughter to keep her name if she ever gets married.
 
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MotherofaPrincessLover

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Ayla said:
If a woman doesn't have a passport and took her husband's name with marriage, it is a pain in the to track down all the documents needed to obtain a Real ID. I am so glad we all have passports!

I have strongly encouraged my daughter to keep her name if she ever gets married.
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I kept my last name when I got married. When I got my enhanced license (I'm in MN so we have that as an option), I had to have a bill sent to the house with my name on it. My husband added my name to one of the bills (both of our full names are on it) and the license bureau didn't like that we had different last names. I had to then provide the marriage license. I found that completely ridiculous since people can live together and not be married.
 
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Ayla

Ayla

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MotherofaPrincessLover said:
I kept my last name when I got married. When I got my enhanced license (I'm in MN so we have that as an option), I had to have a bill sent to the house with my name on it. My husband added my name to one of the bills (both of our full names are on it) and the license bureau didn't like that we had different last names. I had to then provide the marriage license. I found that completely ridiculous since people can live together and not be married.
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If your name was the same as your birth certificate, there was zero reason they needed your marriage certificate.
 
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jaklgreen

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MotherofaPrincessLover said:
I kept my last name when I got married. When I got my enhanced license (I'm in MN so we have that as an option), I had to have a bill sent to the house with my name on it. My husband added my name to one of the bills (both of our full names are on it) and the license bureau didn't like that we had different last names. I had to then provide the marriage license. I found that completely ridiculous since people can live together and not be married.
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What we did was have a couple of the utilities/bills in my name and a couple in my husband's name. Our DMV also asks for 2 bills to show proof of address.
 
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Tigger&Pooh

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I got my "REAL ID" license several years ago -- I think it was prior to the pandemic. It was fairly easy and I don't recall needing my marriage license.

DD got her's just a couple of years ago. I don't recall what we used for mail -- maybe a bank statement (which would have both parents' names as well) and/or something from school (which likely was "to the parents of..."). Or maybe it was a paycheck, which was never mailed because she'd pick it up at work but it probably had her address. I know her passport had expired so that wasn't used. When she started working a couple of years earlier we had to get her a new SS card because work required the actual card; that was annoying but not difficult.
 
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Ayla

Ayla

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Tigger&Pooh said:
I got my "REAL ID" license several years ago -- I think it was prior to the pandemic. It was fairly easy and I don't recall needing my marriage license.

DD got her's just a couple of years ago. I don't recall what we used for mail -- maybe a bank statement (which would have both parents' names as well) and/or something from school (which likely was "to the parents of..."). Or maybe it was a paycheck, which was never mailed because she'd pick it up at work but it probably had her address. I know her passport had expired so that wasn't used. When she started working a couple of years earlier we had to get her a new SS card because work required the actual card; that was annoying but not difficult.
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Married women only need a marriage certificate if they don't have a passport.
 
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Tigger&Pooh

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Ayla said:
Married women only need a marriage certificate if they don't have a passport.
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I don't recall using my passport, it may have been expired. I definitely remember making sure I had mail which wouldn't have been needed if I had used a passport.

I also never showed my marriage license for my passport. So maybe my state is somewhat lax on that matter.
 
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lewisc

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Ayla said:
Married women only need a marriage certificate if they don't have a passport.
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You do if your passport has your middle initial and your social security card has your full middle name. You'll need original marriage certificates and divorce decrees. You also need an original birth certificate.

I don't know if that changed. There was talk about aaccepting middle initial as equivalent to middle name
 
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Ayla

Ayla

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lewisc said:
You do if your passport has your middle initial and your social security card has your full middle name. You'll need original marriage certificates and divorce decrees. You also need an original birth certificate.

I don't know if that changed. There was talk about aaccepting middle initial as equivalent to middle name
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Well, that's on the woman. All legal paperwork (including a passport) should all have the same matching names, including middle.
 
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lewisc

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Ayla said:
Well, that's on the woman. All legal paperwork (including a passport) should all have the same matching names, including middle.
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I'm not attaching blame. The passport office had an original birth certificate showing full middle name. They had no problem issuing it with a middle initial. We're going back more then 20 years. Policy may have changed

My point is a man can show a birth certificate. A woman might be also have to show one or more marriage certificates and possibly 1 or more divorce decrees.
 
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Ayla

Ayla

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lewisc said:
I'm not attaching blame. The passport office had an original birth certificate showing full middle name. They had no problem issuing it with a middle initial. We're going back more then 20 years. Policy may have changed

My point is a man can show a birth certificate. A woman might be also have to show one or more marriage certificates and possibly 1 or more divorce decrees.
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Correct. Yes, it's a pain in the butt if she changes her name, but all of those different name changes need to be accounted for. I don't like it (as a married woman who changed her name), but I understand why it has to be the way it is.
 
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jaklgreen

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lewisc said:
An article describing issues people face getting Real ID


www-syracuse-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Some women having trouble getting REAL IDs due to ‘confusing’ issue

"I think it's discrimination," one woman said.
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What a mess for some of these woman, who already went through the process of showing who they are to get all of those documents changed to their new last names. I don't know why all of a sudden the government doubts the very documents that they themselves already verified and issued. If we had to show all of that stuff already, our birth certificate and our marriage license, to have a new driver's license and SS card issued, then why would they need to see all of it again? Especially for those who have had the last name longer than they have had their maiden name.
 
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Lilofan

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After the deadline has past, all travelers better pack a lot of patience since the line to get through TSA will be long and tedious when very angry travelers not complying will returned away at the entry checkpoint.
 
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lewisc

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Lilofan said:
After the deadline has past, all travelers better pack a lot of patience since the line to get through TSA will be long and tedious when very angry travelers not complying will returned away at the entry checkpoint.
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Some airports will have a separate line for pax without Real ID, or the equivalent
 
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vikescaper

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True story……

The last time I renewed my license was back in 2017 and I didn’t think about getting a REAL ID compliant license, so I renewed online and received a non-compliant license. Fast forward to 2022, and I decided that I didn’t want to procrastinate so I went in to the DMV with all the required paperwork and got a replacement license that was REAL ID compliant. After I left the DMV, I realized that my name was spelled incorrectly, so I had to take time away from work to get it fixed. This license expires this year, so I went to renew it online only to find out that I still need to go into the DMV simply because I didn’t go in back in 2017. A pain in the rear but I will do what I need to……
 
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