Rates plunge, but motels sit half-empty

mkt

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Rates plunge, but motels sit half-empty
By Lisa Glass | Sentinel Staff Writer
July 22, 2002


KISSIMMEE (Orlando Sentinel) -- The Parkway Motel was Kenneth Ho's piece of the American pie. Ho bought the quaint 18-room inn on U.S. Highway 192 before moving to Orlando from Taiwan in 1989.

The little motel with purple doors was full of busy tourists -- families from England and Japan, couples from Germany and every corner of the United States.

But this year, despite the theme parks' rebound after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the tourists haven't returned to Ho's place or other mom-and-pop motels that pepper Osceola County's tourist corridor.

"It's an American bad dream," Ho said. "It's a worse and worse dream."

Trying desperately to put bodies in beds, struggling independent hotels along U.S. 192 are offering rooms at the staggeringly low rate of $20 a night. Some have sunk to $18. Still, bright-red "vacancy" signs abound during the height of the summer tourist season.

The culprit: competition.

Minutes from Disney, U.S. 192 has long been a haven for budget-savvy travelers, who are the backbone of Osceola's tourist-dependent economy. Colorful motels, discount T-shirt shops and kitschy tourist attractions woo theme-park vacationers with eyes for good deals.

But bargain hunters are searching elsewhere this year, with big-name hotels charging less than usual, and Internet specials offering rooms on Disney property for less than $70.

Mike Horner, president of the Kissimmee/Osceola County Chamber of Commerce, calls it "a trickle-down effect."

"As Disney cuts their rates, the larger hotels cut their rates, and the cuts move right down the food chain," Horner said. "It's tough when you're going for the budget traveler and some of the larger hotels are offering budget rates."

Disney spokeswoman Diane Ledder said Disney resorts adjust their prices within the constraints of current business conditions.

"We feel that we do have a very positive effect on the tourist industry in Osceola County," she said. "Really, we're all in this together. The ups and downs of the economy are felt by all businesses in central Florida. We face challenges, too."

Rates along U.S. 192 have been slashed so far that even the youth hostel on the highway can't compete. Shallow-pocketed backpackers from all over the world got a steal paying $16 to $19 a night at the hostel. But manager Beth Barrett said it doesn't make sense to have a hostel that charges $19 when there are motels down the street charging less. So the hostel is looking to sell.

"The competitive-rate environment here makes the hostel less successful," Barrett said. "Our mission is to make it possible for anyone to travel. It's not so necessary to have a hostel here."

Occupancy rates along the corridor are the lowest they've been in five years. Three out of four rooms were occupied along West U.S. 192 in May 2000, according to the Orlando/Orange County Convention & Visitors Bureau. The following May, rooms along that stretch were 60 percent full. But this past May, barely half the beds had to be made in the morning.

Only 14 of 38 rooms at the Palm Motel were booked one night last week, manager Chris Duchaine said.

"Business is lousy," he said. "Two years ago, our low rate was $30, and we were packed. Now we're lucky to get 40 percent occupancy, and our low rate is closer to $20."

Down the street at the Paradise Inn, Joe Sohan is letting rooms go for $20 a night. But few tourists are taking advantage of the deal. The vacationers who are there -- such as Edwin Alvarez and William Vazquez, both of Puerto Rico -- are thrilled.

"There's not a lot of frills here, but the price is good, it's clean and we have whatever we need," Alvarez said as he splashed in the motel's pool.

Vazquez said he usually pays $40 a night, but he paid $28 for two people last week.

"Usually around July 4th, the prices go way up," he said. "This year, they stayed the same. And the prices are way lower than two or even one year ago."The hard times are running many of the independents into the ground. Ho said he once brought in about $20,000 a month during the summer high season. This year, he collected about $2,000 in June, and he expects about the same this month and next.

"It's not enough to pay the bills," he said. "You can't make both ends meet."

Many of the hotels have had to cut staff because of sluggish business. At the Paradise, owner Sohan and his 15-year-old son, Phillip, run the front desk now because they can't afford to hire anyone for the job.

Mom-and-pop hotels such as the Paradise have had a more difficult time returning to normal after Sept. 11.

"The budget-conscious market is slower to return than other parts of the market," said Tim Hemphill, executive director of the Kissimmee-St. Cloud Convention & Visitors Bureau. "The return to normal is very gradual."

To make matters worse, hoteliers along U.S. 192 were banking on a new Osceola County convention center to boost business. But county commissioners didn't choose the hoteliers' preferred site at U.S. 192 and State Road 535.

Instead, they chose a spot across from the Gaylord Palms resort, just south of the Orange County line, which hoteliers said would benefit International Drive more than their properties.

"Slowly, together, everyone is going bankrupt," the Palm Motel's Duchaine said. "I mean, look at the rates along here. This is July. The motels should be packed. Where are the cars? Where are the people?"
 

mkt

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Originally posted by pheneix
Is it really competition, or is it because the 192 corridor is becoming the slums of Central Florida? I wonder...

amen. 192 used to be the last resort for a family vacation to Orlando for most people. When the WDW and reputable hotels were booked, in came 192 and the Orlando suburbs. Now that there are rooms in those resorts for good prices, there's really not too much reason to stay on 192.
 

copper

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Our family used to stay at Wilson World which was on a road with many miniature golf courses, t-shirt places, etc. and I was wondering if it was on 192? I was there in 1989 and didn't return to WDW for 10 years. In 1999 everything looked completely different. Does Wilson World even exist anymore?
 

Main Street USA

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Originally posted by copper
Our family used to stay at Wilson World which was on a road with many miniature golf courses, t-shirt places, etc. and I was wondering if it was on 192? I was there in 1989 and didn't return to WDW for 10 years. In 1999 everything looked completely different. Does Wilson World even exist anymore?

Wilson World is indeed on 192. My family has a time share at Orange Lake Country Club past all of the crap on 192. Still real nice over there.

And as far as I know, Wilson World IS still there.:)
 

Talsonic

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Take advantage of the situation!

Originally posted by mktiggerman


amen. 192 used to be the last resort for a family vacation to Orlando for most people. When the WDW and reputable hotels were booked, in came 192 and the Orlando suburbs. Now that there are rooms in those resorts for good prices, there's really not too much reason to stay on 192.



Actually, in the days when I stayed off property (back in the 1980's) the 192 area was very nice mainly because most of the "tourists" didn't know it existed and the room prices were low. Also the gasoline (petrol) prices along 192 were far less expensive than any of the other areas either inside or surrounding WDW property (such as the maingate area). It was (and IMO still is) a great backdoor to the Disney property.

As for the visitation downturn, 9/11 started it for sure. Both domestic and international air travel is way down due to security concerns. In addition, the recent stock market plunge has reversed any hope of recovery for Orlando visitation for the foreseeable future. As a regular visitor, I love it! Disney resorts are discounting more and more. Everything from the WDW deluxe resorts to the All-Stars can be booked at significant discount prices. As long as you pick the right times, the crowds are far less of a problem. My advice is, take advantage of this situation while you can! WDW needs the business and we need the discounts.
 

pheneix

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>>>It was (and IMO still is) a great backdoor to the Disney property.<<<

You've not been there in a while, have you? ;)

To be honest, when I drove by Raging Waters the other day, not only did I wonder how they stayed in business, but I also wondered how no one ever died in that place because of how rundown it looked. I also echoed the same sentiments about Old Town (which I visited often until 2000 when the place started going to hell). The whole area is a cesspool now. :(

>>>In addition, the recent stock market plunge has reversed any hope of recovery for Orlando visitation for the foreseeable future.<<<

Yes, the markets are a nice barometer of the economy, but how is the recent plunge (which I don't think has even begun, just wait until August 14th) going to have a direct effect on Orlando's tourism? Remember the crash of 1987 that had little effect on the economy? That is not to say that the stock market won't have an effect on the economy this time around to a certain extent (but let's face it, the economy is in the crapper anyway), but to claim that this will wipe away any possible ground regained by the economy, especially something as specific as Orlando's tourism market, is really stretching it.
 

Talsonic

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Old Town Rocked!

Yeah, I remember Old Town. It WAS a great place. Now, as for the 192 area I was just there last April. As an example of my contention that it is still a very good place to stay, I'll point out the Holiday Inn (Maingate West). 99.99% of the tourists don't even know it is there. Yet this motel is closer to the AK than any of the All-Star Resorts. It is a "perfect" backdoor to WDW. The rooms are very nice, service is excellent and the rates are rock bottom inexpensive. It is certainly one of the best, if not the best, off property motels near WDW. I have experience in this matter.

As for the market decline, this is just a matter of sentiment. Most folks are worried about the market and the economy in general. The kind of long distance travel that WDW embraces declines during these periods regardless of the "real" outlook. You know, it's kind of like the folks that go out and buy gold. It's a "bomb shelter" mentality. I don't endorse it, but I do take advantage of the opportunity.:cool:
 

Eeyore

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Originally posted by copper
Our family used to stay at Wilson World which was on a road with many miniature golf courses, t-shirt places, etc. and I was wondering if it was on 192? I was there in 1989 and didn't return to WDW for 10 years. In 1999 everything looked completely different. Does Wilson World even exist anymore?

The Wilson World building is still there, but it's not Wilson World anymore. It's now one of the very familiar chain hotels, but I can't remember which one. We stayed at Wilson World for our first WDW vacation in 1986. :)
 

The Mom

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Originally posted by Eeyore


The Wilson World building is still there, but it's not Wilson World anymore. It's now one of the very familiar chain hotels, but I can't remember which one. We stayed at Wilson World for our first WDW vacation in 1987. :)

The one near me is a Best Western now. I remember staying in the one on 192 many, many, years ago....everything smelled like chlorine. ;) And the room was noisy....I swear there were people in that indoor pool all night!
 

Beauty and the

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Originally posted by The Mom


The one near me is a Best Western now. I remember staying in the one on 192 many, many, years ago....everything smelled like chlorine. ;) And the room was noisy....I swear there were people in that indoor pool all night!

LMAO lol:

We stayed here too and rechristened the place Wally World!
It had its good points though our kids received Birthday Cards from the Hotel Mascot for the next five years!!
 

Eeyore

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Originally posted by The Mom


The one near me is a Best Western now. I remember staying in the one on 192 many, many, years ago....everything smelled like chlorine. ;) And the room was noisy....I swear there were people in that indoor pool all night!

I was 9 almost 10 when we stayed there and all I remember about it is the pool. I just thought it was the coolest thing to have a pool inside. :lol: and it had a waterfall! Sometimes it pays to be easily amused. :D

Nice to see you around Beauty! :) We called it Wally World too, just like in National Lampoons Vacation :lol:
 

Debbie

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In the 80's, I used to stay on 192 all the time. The Travelodge Golden Triangle was one of my favorites and it had a pretty lake behind it. I believe I used to pay around $55.00 per nite back then and last time I checked it was a Quality Inn. It was on the corner of what is now 535 and 192 and this was before Taco Bell and all the other stuff was there.
 

Talsonic

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$40.00 a night was my limit in the 80's!

Back in the 80's, I couldn't afford to stay "on property". Our family was cutting every corner we could just to afford the tickets and travel expenses. Heck, we even slept in the car on various occasions (due to poor planning). We also spent one night in cabana chairs at a resort pool side, even though we weren't guests of the resort. Yeah, the good ole days. Fond memories. Heck, I'll never do THAT again (I hope).
 

spagmoid

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I like having those little $20/night crappy places there. You only spend 8 hours a day in your room, and you're unconscious. I'd rather save the money for Disney.
 

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