Rapunzel's tower has arrived.

[bubbles1812]

I am sorry, I actually have a life and my day is not planned around responding to critism on forums about a bathroom that really has no effect on peoples lives, outside of it being in a theme park.

with that said, YES i have been on FJ I am sorry I was not Impressed, GOD Help me. My favorite attraction in orlando is tower of terror, which to some is a lame freefall drop, like Dooms.

I just figured the harry potter ride was more involved. I have been on similar rides before. I was bored.

and when I said Stationary, I didnt mean you were not moving, I mean the scren in fron of you was.

I have no problem with you not being impressed with FJ and I doubt anyone else does either. But your description of the ride through several seperate posts had made it look like you have no idea what your talking about in terms of how the ride works and is designed. And I'm sorry, comparing it to Soain solely because the screen stays stationary when there are so many more elements to FJ? They are entirely different. That really is like the example you cited of TOT being Doom. It's fairly reasonable people would doubt you've been on the ride.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The screens in Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey are not stationary, they move in sync with the ride vehicles along a turn table. Relative to the ride vehicle they are stationary, but if they were not the effect would be lost.

 

[mvieguy]

If your favorite attraction in all of UOR is Poseidon's Fury, you needn't say more.

yes because being 40 years old, haven rode 90% of the rides in all of orlando, considered a roller coaster/theme part enthusiast. I am not allowed to like a simple attraction,

and because i dont share your opinion, mine is automatically disqualified.

how about this. dont like what i have to say, dont worry about it, and dont respond

 

[lazyboy97o]

good to know. it was just one mans opinion. shouldnt be crucified for it

As stated, I still have a hard time believing you have experienced the attraction due to your repeated, inaccurate descriptions. Even if you thought the ride vehicle came to a stop along te track, the vehicle continues to move well beyond your descriptions.

 

[mvieguy]

As stated, I still have a hard time believing you have experienced the attraction due to your repeated, inaccurate descriptions. Even if you thought the ride vehicle came to a stop along te track, the vehicle continues to move well beyond your descriptions.

guess we will never know. because i am not about to debate online about if i rode a ride or not

 

[Clyde]

Sure there would be 4 year olds who would want to be in Seuss more than HP. There are also 4 year olds that I know who would much prefer HP to Seuss. My point is that you made way too big of a generalization. I know parents who've chosen to read the first few HP books (not all of them as obviously they get darker as they go along) as a bed time story to their young kids. And said kids have loved them. The HP books are full of magic and fun and whimsy, especially that first one. And many children younger than 10 have yet again seen the first few movies at least... including those little girls who love Ariel. Not a crime and not impossible to like both. I just can't put any stock into your claim that HP fans are only "generally 10 and up." It's way too broad an assumption. It's like saying only girls like Disney. (I know that's not what your claiming. Just an example I've definitely heard. That is Disney is just "girly" and not for boys)

While there is truth to this post, demographics are still more about what's most likely than being 100% accurate. Sure there are 4 yr olds who would like HP as well as little girls, but Suess landing will attract more of that demographic than HP. Just as there will be plenty of little boys who want to go to bibbity bobbity boutique (and the fathers who don't let them lol) , but more who want to get their makeup done in the Pirate league. Nothing is 100% but it's what more of each group will dig.

 

[Clyde]

Sure we could have. They could have left SW in place and located the princess meet and greets elsewhere.

I guess. I'm sure there are reasons as to why things are how they are layout wise which I'm not even going to try and figure out. Truth is, while SWSA was a classic and one of the originals, I could care less that it's gone especially considering the SDMT ride. I guess we could have kept both and that would have been better than the princess thing, but oh well.

 

[Clyde]

Fantasyland is not nearly as comprehensive as the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. I think a good metric is the Thea Awards, given by others in the industry and not just fans. The Wizarding World received one not just for being a great new land, but a second for its food and retail experience. Comparatively Cars Land only received one for new land. The same is true of each land's big E-Ticket, two for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey and one for Radiator Springs Racers. If Fantasyland isn't even Cars Land, how does it beat out the Wizarding World. Just food is limited to Be Our Guest, with Gaston's featuring more popular items than unique, Provincial items.


Fantasyland is only amazing in comparison to the last several years at Walt Disney World. It does not hold that position when compared to what is happening elsewhere. Nobody is saying it not nice, but its not a sign of Disney again taking the lead or something truly epic.

I disagree. I LOVE WWoHP and all that comes with it including the old rides, but I am still holding to my point that is is merely a beautiful immersion landscape, a wand show and one new ride. That's all it is. FLE is two new rides, doubling a classic ride and interactive que, new M&G's, probably the biggest deal as far as restaurants go in the theme park universe in many years and a super duper bathroom lol . I would have liked other stuff too. A legit E ticket would have been great, but I'm still not convinced that FLE and the new tower of love and toilets is somehow worthy of disappointment on any level.

Butterbeer sucks by the way

 

[Clyde]

When comparing WWoHP to FLE my gut reaction has been that WWoHP is a better land then FLE and there are a good number of people here who have said the same. But when I think more logically about it I can't put my finger on why I feel that way. The only place where I can say WWoHP is the clear winner is in the signature attraction, Forbidden Journey is a far better and more innovative ride the Mermaid and from everything I have heard of the Mine Ride it won't be a match for FJ either. So, awards aside, what is it that makes WWoHP better?

Disclaimer: I have visited WWoHP in person but not FLE.

Maybe it's the fact that HP is all one extremely focused project. It is one topic. One subject and one theme. FLE has BaTB , LM, SW, Dumbo, The rest of the Circus including barnstormer and the pete thing, as well as the new castle walls and the Tangled B-rooms. It's a lot more difficult IMO to try and mesh all of that together than to make one theme and we probably feel it. Thoughts?

 

[Clyde]

I am no fan of the Speedway and would be fine with it disappearing and be replaced with other/better attractions.

That said, having recently seen Wreck It Ralph (which was great!), I'd be wholeheartedly behind a re-theming of the Speedway to Sugar Rush, making all the vehicles out of candy (and hopefully electrofying them at the same time) but keeping the same general layout. Then they could put the Sugar Rush Speedway into Fantasyland, where it would be a reasonable thematic fit, certainly better than currently.

I don't hate this idea. I loved the movie too as dis my son. I love the speedway as it lets childre have the chance to drive, but hate the fumes and I agree it doesn't make sense. I like how you're thinking here.

 

[bubbles1812]

While there is truth to this post, demographics are still more about what's most likely than being 100% accurate. Sure there are 4 yr olds who would like HP as well as little girls, but Suess landing will attract more of that demographic than HP. Just as there will be plenty of little boys who want to go to bibbity bobbity boutique (and the fathers who don't let them lol) , but more who want to get their makeup done in the Pirate league. Nothing is 100% but it's what more of each group will dig.

This is again what I'd dispute and what I haven't observed either. And I work with kids a lot...apparently they must all by weird to prefer HP over Suess. So again, just can't fully take what you state as "fact."

 

[Clyde]

This is again what I'd dispute and what I haven't observed either. And I work with kids a lot...apparently they must all by weird to prefer HP over Suess. So again, just can't fully take what you state as "fact."

Like I said, nothing is 100%, but it's the whole theory behind demographics. What is one group (age, class etc) more likely to enjoy. I'm not trying to be combative, just talkin. ya know.... shootin the breeze.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I disagree. I LOVE WWoHP and all that comes with it including the old rides, but I am still holding to my point that is is merely a beautiful immersion landscape, a wand show and one new ride. That's all it is. FLE is two new rides, doubling a classic ride and interactive que, new M&G's, probably the biggest deal as far as restaurants go in the theme park universe in many years and a super duper bathroom lol . I would have liked other stuff too. A legit E ticket would have been great, but I'm still not convinced that FLE and the new tower of love and toilets is somehow worthy of disappointment on any level.

Butterbeer sucks by the way

As you just said about demographics, nothing is ever going to be the same. That is why I used the Thea Awards as a measure. It's not normal people or fans making the decision regarding those awards, but Disney and its peers in themed entertainment. I also think your measuring by quantity more than quality.
I would say that for many, Fantasyland is ultimately a disappointment because it is a nice symptom of an underlying illness which remains.

 

[JenniferS]

So...back to the tower. From what I've seen of the area, both in person (less than 2 weeks ago) and these new online pics, I think it looks great so far, and am sorry I missed it.
Can't wait to see what the areas look like fully completed.
Now bring on the DHS enhancements. Start erecting those painted wood fences EVERYWHERE there, please.

 

[G00fyDad]

So...back to the tower. From what I've seen of the area, both in person (less than 2 weeks ago) and these new online pics, I think it looks great so far, and am sorry I missed it.
Can't wait to see what the areas look like fully completed.
Now bring on the DHS enhancements. Start erecting those painted wood fences EVERYWHERE there, please.

Absolutely. I'd take an entire trip without DHS if they would just revamp the place.

 

[Clyde]

As you just said about demographics, nothing is ever going to be the same. That is why I used the Thea Awards as a measure. It's not normal people or fans making the decision regarding those awards, but Disney and its peers in themed entertainment. I also think your measuring by quantity more than quality.
I would say that for many, Fantasyland is ultimately a disappointment because it is a nice symptom of an underlying illness which remains.

Potentially. I'll just say that I will be there on Dec 14th and will come back and tell you what I find with my magnifying glass. I look forward to feeling the dumbo wait and seeing how it changed. ( I hated the way it was) I also look forward to feeling FL now that it's opened up. Still miss 20,000 leagues under the sea if I'm being honest, but I'm sure this will be better than it's been in FL.
I look forward to more of the same style of detail in MK as there is now in FLE and get very excited to think what could be done in TL with this style of improvement.

 

[Master Yoda]

Tower, nice. Lets not go crazy about how magical it is, though. It's a bathroom, not an attraction.

Patricia, I look forward to hearing if your niece is disappointed because it is just a bathroom. I can hear kids now, "look! Tangled! Lets go on the tangled ride! Lets meet rapunzel!" Sorry, kids, it's a bathroom.

I'll bet CM's in the area have to answer the question, "where's the entrance to the ride?" Many times a day...

My opinion? Nicely done tower, for what it is.
However, if you can see it from liberty square or frontier land, that's not good. Here's hoping for trees.

I'll wager it is around the same number that ask if they can go to the top of the Eiffel Tower in France or if they can stay in the Tower of Terror.

 

[Vernonpush]

The tower should've been on the right side of the bathroom area because on the left it's right next to the Haunted Mansion which is odd.

Do you think it's odd that you can see Tom Sawyer Island and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad further down the Haunted Mansion queue?

 

[G00fyDad]

Pot, Kettle, and I am calling you black. thanks for showing what a troll is. You were never part of the original conversation, but decided to add your two sense. I have reported you

A) Why are you calling him black?

B) It is spelled cents.
and
C) You can report people until you're blue in the face. It typically does no good. I have reported posts with the f bomb in them and they were never deleted. User accounts are created at will (Gtovyrslf) just to have a username to stir up trouble and they are still here.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Do you think it's odd that you can see Tom Sawyer Island and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad further down the Haunted Mansion queue?

Liberty Square and Frontierland were designed as a complimentary pair that work to tell the same story, the USA from founding through expansion. As one moves from Liberty Square through to Frontierland one physically moves east to west. This follows the expansion of the US borders. Along with your movement, the designs change to reflect the geographic and chronological changes which occurred during this period. The two lands are two parts to a bigger whole.