Railroad signaling down - limit of 2 Trains

TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Ever since the fire at the new orleans square station the Disneyland Railroad has been without a functioning signal system which limits the operation to only 2 trains. They used to run 3 and even 4 trains on very busy days so this is really causing long lines to build up at the stations during the day.

Honestly, the guest relations of this is really bad, people are waiting way too long for a train and there are no signs warning people of the excess wait… just the normal “trains depart every 10-20 minutes”

Anyone know why this is taking so long to fix and if there is any hope? I’ve given up riding the train except early in the day and late at night.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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You are right, this isn't good customer service.

They need to install new signs and/or redo their communication to paying customers about how long the delays will actually be.

That they haven't done this months after the fire, or even tried to do anything really, tells me the management in charge of the Disneyland Railroad don't know how to be good hosts.

And the executive team of those managers don't even know what's going on in their own park. Or even care. :banghead:
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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It’s actually worse, I’ve heard conductors say “next train is in 5-10 minutes” when they know it’s actually 10-20. And because people can ride as long as they want to, and there are only 2 trains, guests are having to wait for 2 or 3 trains (yes…. Up to an hour wait but no sign up explaining that).
 
D.Silentu

D.Silentu

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I find this situation fairly confusing. Ok, so the signal system is damaged and will take however long to fix. I may be oversimplifying the solution, but to me a temporary fix seems as easy as buying three smart phones. With one on every locomotive, location services can keep track of the position of each one in real time while keeping the trains in constant communication. Then again, I'm sure there's a lot about the system I don't comprehend.
 
SuddenStorm

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D.Silentu said:
I find this situation fairly confusing. Ok, so the signal system is damaged and will take however long to fix. I may be oversimplifying the solution, but to me a temporary fix seems as easy as buying three smart phones. With one on every locomotive, location services can keep track of the position of each one in real time while keeping the trains in constant communication. Then again, I'm sure there's a lot about the system I don't comprehend.
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Right like why can't they have a smart phone/messaging system for the cast?

Perhaps there's legal requirements for railroad signalling?
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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SuddenStorm said:
Right like why can't they have a smart phone/messaging system for the cast?

Perhaps there's legal requirements for railroad signalling?
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They are using radios for now, I suppose they could run 3 trains. When train 1 has left Main Street train 2 is clear to leave Tomorrowland and when train 2 is clear of Tomorrowland train 3 is cleared from toontown.

Disneyland Railroad legally is an amusement park attraction and not a railroad.
 
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wdrive

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When was the fire again? A good while ago now. I have no idea of the extent of the damage etc but I do feel this could have been fixed by now if they actually wanted it to be.

Edited to add I could say this about a lot of things at the moment, there’s no way the treehouse should be taking this long outside of saving some money dragging the construction out. Well, I say saving but they actually make it more expensive for themselves in the long run, but it looks better on quarterly results to spend less.
 
truecoat

truecoat

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TrainsOfDisney said:
They are using radios for now, I suppose they could run 3 trains. When train 1 has left Main Street train 2 is clear to leave Tomorrowland and when train 2 is clear of Tomorrowland train 3 is cleared from toontown.

Disneyland Railroad legally is an amusement park attraction and not a railroad.
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If it crossed a public roadway, then it would have to follow other regulations but the only roads it crosses are private.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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SuddenStorm said:
Right like why can't they have a smart phone/messaging system for the cast?

Perhaps there's legal requirements for railroad signalling?
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A lot of things railroads do are right out the 1800s because of tradition. Railroads very rarely modernize the way they work. Disneyland does not need a signing system right out of 1800s. How hard can it be to install a gps system to track each train or at the very least, give the engineer a hard held GPS and walkie talkie? They boast that Rise of the Resistance can track each car via GPS. How hard can it be to track three huge trains? The trains only go five miles per hour in the same direction.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Phroobar said:
I have to explain this to you? Maybe when are old enough to get your license you will find out.
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Thanks for the personal attack :)

Now in regards to your comment… Disneyland Railroad is supposed to operate as traditionally as possible. The captain on the Mark Twain still signals to the engine man with a bell. The conductors on the railroad still yell “all aboard” and use hand signals. It’s part of the charm of the operation and yes signals are part of that although the only historically correct signal is the semaphore at New Orleans square.

But your comment misses the point, it shouldn’t take this long to fix the signal system! Obviously creating and testing a brand new system would take even longer. You can’t just use google maps and gps on iPads, that’s not a realistic solution.
 

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