Question on biometrics and minors

[Captain Coupon]

If this question is not allowed I apologize in advance.


Hi, I wanted to know if anyone would think this be an option. We are going to Disney the last week of June and taking a family friend with us. My wife and I and our daughter all have new RF tickets we exchanged last year from pre 2006 park hoppers. We have one pre 2006 park hopper for our son who is not going on this trip that is not exchanged yet for an RF ticket. Our plan was to exchange the ticket for the family friend to use, since he is a minor he does not have id. We would put the ticket in our sons name and when he went to use the ticket whenever he goes back, he should be able to show id since the biometric will most likely not match. Do you think this is an option to save the cost of a 1 day admission ticket for our young family friend?

 

[englanddg]

It would most likely work. Long story why (a lot having to do with how the new gates work). But, I would still call Disney with this one...I doubt it would be an issue.

 

[Nemo14]

It would most likely work. Long story why (a lot having to do with how the new gates work). But, I would still call Disney with this one...I doubt it would be an issue.

Since he's trying to beat Disney out of a ticket, I doubt that calling Disney would be the best idea...

 

[englanddg]

Since he's trying to beat Disney out of a ticket, I doubt that calling Disney would be the best idea...

There is no reason why he has to explain it aside from "I have an old ticket that wasnt used up, how do I link it to MDE?"

 

[Tom]

But since this is considered ticket fraud, best to take the high road and follow the rules. That's my input.

 

[Captain Coupon]

There is no reason why he has to explain it aside from "I have an old ticket that wasnt used up, how do I link it to MDE?"

I'm not planning on linking it to MDE. I'm just trying to save a family $100+ that they don't have. My son who isn't going to Disney anytime in the foreseeable future has the ticket. My plan is to convert it at Downtown Disney or the front gates prior to our day at the Magic Kingdom. I found very little information on what happens when my son does go to use this ticket which will be in his name and the biometrics doesn't match. By the time he goes back he will have id that will match the name on the ticket. I just wasn't sure if I do this if there is any way they would deny admission if the biometric doesn't match but the id does.

 

[Nemo14]

I'm not planning on linking it to MDE. I'm just trying to save a family $100+ that they don't have. My son who isn't going to Disney anytime in the foreseeable future has the ticket. My plan is to convert it at Downtown Disney or the front gates prior to our day at the Magic Kingdom. I found very little information on what happens when my son does go to use this ticket which will be in his name and the biometrics doesn't match. By the time he goes back he will have id that will match the name on the ticket. I just wasn't sure if I do this if there is any way they would deny admission if the biometric doesn't match but the id does.

Sounds possible to me - especially since he's that young.

 

[Monty]

Tickets are non-transferable.

 

[Captain Coupon]

Sounds possible to me - especially since he's that young.

Possible they would deny my son with id or possible that what I want to do will work.

 

[Nemo14]

sorry - I meant that your plan should probably work.

 

[Captain Coupon]

sorry - I meant that your plan should probably work.

Thanks. It looks like this is a touchy subject. Maybe the mods should close this thread? Like I said in my first post, I apologize if this question isn't allowed.

 

[DisneyJoe]

If this family friend uses the ticket, won't it then expire 14 days after that first use?

 

[Captain Coupon]

If this family friend uses the ticket, won't it then expire 14 days after that first use?

No I bought the no expiration option back in 2005 for these tickets. This ticket hasnt been used since then and is not a new RF ticket yet. I have to swap that out when I get there next month.

 

[DisneyJoe]

No I bought the no expiration option back in 2005 for these tickets. This ticket hasnt been used since then and is not a new RF ticket yet. I have to swap that out when I get there next month.

I ask because the No Expiration option no longer exists, they did away with it this year.

That is the question I would call and ask Disney - when you convert these tickets to RF tickets, will they still have a No-Expiration option?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I'm not planning on linking it to MDE. I'm just trying to save a family $100+ that they don't have.

One might question the financial prudence of a family without $100 taking a trip to Walt Disney World in the first place.

To add, your statement could also apply to stealing a castle playset from the Emporium. Saving a family $100 they don't have and whatnot.

 

[Captain Coupon]

One might question the financial prudence of a family without $100 taking a trip to Walt Disney World in the first place.

To add, your statement could also apply to stealing a castle playset from the Emporium. Saving a family $100 they don't have and whatnot.

Not that I have to explain myself to you, but the family taking the trip (mine) is not the family that does not have the $100. I dont expect you to understand and your analogy does not even come close to applying to this question. Your analogy is equivalent to those who download movies and music online through non proper channels. Those people have no intention of buying the downloaded item in the first place, so there is no 'loss' of revenue. Yes, it doesnt make it right, but the damage is not realistic. The same applies here. Yes its not right, but that is my choice to make, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work and I will pay the $100 admission fee.

Like the example above, it appears this is a touchy subject. Mods, please close the thread.

I appreciate the answers on my question from those that gave it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Not that I have to explain myself to you, but the family taking the trip (mine) is not the family that does not have the $100. I dont expect you to understand and your analogy does not even come close to applying to this question. Your analogy is equivalent to those who download movies and music online through non proper channels. Those people have no intention of buying the downloaded item in the first place, so there is no 'loss' of revenue. Yes, it doesnt make it right, but the damage is not realistic. The same applies here. Yes its not right, but that is my choice to make, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work and I will pay the $100 admission fee.

Like the example above, it appears this is a touchy subject. Mods, please close the thread.

I appreciate the answers on my question from those that gave it.

Sorry man, I'm not going to accept a snarky holier-than-thou response from a guy whose first post as a member of this community was to seek advice about the best way to get away with stealing. Give me a break.

 

[Captain Coupon]

And I'm not going to accept your holier than thou response from someone who has no business posting the equivalent of a PSA on right and wrong.

It was your choice to respond. Next time move along and don't comment on threads that aren't asking if it's right or wrong.

 

[dreamfinder]

I do believe protocol is that if the biometric doesn't match and they can show ID proving the name match that they will override the failure, and potentially reset the biometric if it fails enough.

Whether or not your plan will work or is legal is up for debate.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I do believe protocol is that if the biometric doesn't match and they can show ID proving the name match that they will override the failure, and potentially reset the biometric if it fails enough.

There's nothing for the biometric to match. The new RFID ticket will be "blank" as far as biometrics are concerned, as they won't transfer from the paper ticket to the new one. The first finger scan with the new ticket media will "set" the biometric.