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Rumor Proposed Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

Surferboy567

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Practically pointless in every way.

The problem as I'm interpreting it is that the decision makers were wanting to base the attraction off the current movie and because it did less than outstanding at the box office; the grander plans were back-burned. If we were to get something at this point it would be that bare minimum flat... "something" to plop down but not anything held to the caliber of the movie franchise or at a level the fandom demands.

I get the impression that TDO/Imagineering is currently in the "Why bother?" stage of development.
Have plans completely stalled or is this still moving along?
Like you said, it’s happening just in an extremely scaled back way ie one flat ride
 

SteamboatJoe

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Practically pointless in every way.

The problem as I'm interpreting it is that the decision makers were wanting to base the attraction off the current movie and because it did less than outstanding at the box office; the grander plans were back-burned. If we were to get something at this point it would be that bare minimum flat... "something" to plop down but not anything held to the caliber of the movie franchise or at a level the fandom demands.

I get the impression that TDO/Imagineering is currently in the "Why bother?" stage of development.
Have plans completely stalled or is this still moving along?
Why they would pin their hopes on the success of a Disney live action film that isn't Marvel or LucasFilms is beyond me. Even Pirates is no longer a sure thing.
 

Purduevian

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The problem as I'm interpreting it is that the decision makers were wanting to base the attraction off the current movie and because it did less than outstanding at the box office; the grander plans were back-burned. If we were to get something at this point it would be that bare minimum flat... "something" to plop down but not anything held to the caliber of the movie franchise or at a level the fandom demands.
The fandom did not demand anything more as shown by the box office of 171 million domestically. What the fandom is demanding is marvel (Infinity war alone is at $670 mil domestic), star wars ($620 mil domestic in 2017), and Pixar ($608 domestic for Incredibles 2). Everyone always says vote with your wallets... and the public did. Personally these seems like a good way to make decisions to me, make what the public is already showing extreme interest in. If the funds that would have been used to make 17 cherry tree lane go into a proper incredible land or an awesome Dr. Strange ride, I would be very happy.
 

wedenterprises

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The fandom did not demand anything more as shown by the box office of 171 million domestically. What the fandom is demanding is marvel (Infinity war alone is at $670 mil domestic), star wars ($620 mil domestic in 2017), and Pixar ($608 domestic for Incredibles 2). Everyone always says vote with your wallets... and the public did. Personally these seems like a good way to make decisions to me, make what the public is already showing extreme interest in. If the funds that would have been used to make 17 cherry tree lane go into a proper incredible land or an awesome Dr. Strange ride, I would be very happy.
Bob?
 

doctornick

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The fandom did not demand anything more as shown by the box office of 171 million domestically. What the fandom is demanding is marvel (Infinity war alone is at $670 mil domestic), star wars ($620 mil domestic in 2017), and Pixar ($608 domestic for Incredibles 2). Everyone always says vote with your wallets... and the public did. Personally these seems like a good way to make decisions to me, make what the public is already showing extreme interest in. If the funds that would have been used to make 17 cherry tree lane go into a proper incredible land or an awesome Dr. Strange ride, I would be very happy.
While I certainly wouldn't go anywhere near ths far, I actually do think that people here overestimate the "fandom" of Mary Poppins (the original). Anecdotally, I don't think it has the kind of multi-generational resonance that many of the (animated) Disney classics have. Part of that, ironically, could be the lack of a strong theme park presence to reinforce the IP. I think it is more of a thing that younger generations are "aware of" more than "love".

I could be wrong of course, but I think the underwhelming box office for the sequel reflects apathy more than discontent.
 

Purduevian

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Nope, I'm just probably someone Disney is trying to target with their expansions.
-Mid 20s
-Still new to paying for my own vacations (going this month and wow is Disney Expensive)
-Getting ready to start a family (Family vacations are money makers)
-Refer to the OG Mary Poppins as "Scary Mary" (Hated that movie as a kid and don't know anyone my age that loves it), didn't see the new one.
-See every Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar movie opening weekend (Toy Story 4 is great!)

I feel like most of Poppins fandom has already decided whether or not they are Disney Vacation people and the addition of a ride would not sway them one way or the other... The movie is 55 years old! They still need to convince people my age that if I spend 10k for a week long family vacation, that it should be in central Florida and not Europe, Hawaii, or Mexico. Marvel, Pixar, Pirates, Star Wars, ect. are things that would push me towards spending money at Disney World, not Poppins.

I'm going with my fiance next month (hasn't been to WDW is ~10 years). She is most looking forward to Frozen, Lion king, Toy Story Land, Buzz Lightyear, BatB show, LM show, and Nemo ride/show. These are all things from our childhood, and I don't blame Disney for targeting us, we are the most long term money they can go after. The IP mandate gets a lot of hate on these forums, and I get it. My favorite attractions are mostly not IP based. However, I can absolutely understand from a business perspective that GOTG roller coaster will sell way more tickets than Western River Expansion.
 
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jt04

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Nope, I'm just probably someone Disney is trying to target with their expansions.
-Mid 20s
-Still new to paying for my own vacations (going this month and wow is Disney Expensive)
-Getting ready to start a family (Family vacations are money makers)
-Refer to the OG Mary Poppins as "Scary Mary" (Hated that movie as a kid and don't know anyone my age that loves it), didn't see the new one.
-See every Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar movie opening weekend (Toy Story 4 is great!)

I feel like most of Poppins fandom has already decided whether or not they are Disney Vacation people and the addition of a ride would not sway them one way or the other... The movie is 55 years old! They still need to convince people my age that if I spend 10k for a week long family vacation, that it should be in central Florida and not Europe, Hawaii, or Mexico. Marvel, Pixar, Pirates, Star Wars, ect. are things that would push me towards spending money at Disney World, not Poppins.

I'm going with my fiance next month (hasn't been to WDW is ~10 years). She is most looking forward to Frozen, Lion king, Toy Story Land, Buzz Lightyear, BatB show, LM show, and Nemo ride/show. These are all things from our childhood, and I don't blame Disney for targeting us, we are the most long term money they can go after. The IP mandate gets a lot of hate on these forums, and I get it. My favorite attractions are mostly not IP based. However, I can absolutely understand from a business perspective that GOTG roller coaster will sell way more tickets than Western River Expansion.
Impressed you are aware of the WRE. Though the IP debate doesn't change the fact that Disney needs to find a solution for the BTMRR dead-end crowd flow problem eventually. IMO.
 

jt04

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No matter what they plan for the UK they should also consider moving the tea cups from the MK.

PS- it doesn't have to be the same system. The new ones can open the same day the old ones close. Then sold or scrapped or relocated. This really would help with MK traffic flow.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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No matter what they plan for the UK they should also consider moving the tea cups from the MK.

PS- it doesn't have to be the same system. The new ones can open the same day the old ones close. Then sold or scrapped or relocated. This really would help with MK traffic flow.
Tea cups and a carousel would be lovely.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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Tea Cups and a Carousel would be an utter disappointment. I can go on either of those at any carnival of fair... How about unique Disney attractions instead of aiming so low.
I know you would love for it to be a meet and greet ;)
They really don’t have much to work with in that little area. World ShowPlace isn’t going anywhere.
 

Bocabear

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B-ticket attractions are rare these days, but they do help round out a park. I wouldn't be against it.
Yes...I suppose, but EPCOT need attractions in World Showcase...I don't think a carousel is quite the scale of what's needed...and quite frankly at this point, every country should already have an attraction and there should have been more pavilions added decades ago... In the game of Catch-up, a carousel or teacups are just...too little too late...
 

jt04

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Yes...I suppose, but EPCOT need attractions in World Showcase...I don't think a carousel is quite the scale of what's needed...and quite frankly at this point, every country should already have an attraction and there should have been more pavilions added decades ago... In the game of Catch-up, a carousel or teacups are just...too little too late...
Moving the tea cups would allow the parades to serpentine through Fantasyland and then around the hub. Rerouting the parade would have the domino effect of allowing expansion in the Big Thunder/Splash bottleneck and beyond. Also allows for Liberty Square to reflect the original vision as a mostly enclosed immersive land.

One little change could create a much more functional MK.

Plus the World Showcase needs a few B and C tickets.
 

peter11435

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Moving the tea cups would allow the parades to serpentine through Fantasyland and then around the hub. Rerouting the parade would have the domino effect of allowing expansion in the Big Thunder/Splash bottleneck and beyond. Also allows for Liberty Square to reflect the original vision as a mostly enclosed immersive land.

One little change could create a much more functional MK.

Plus the World Showcase needs a few B and C tickets.
Your keyboard should be frozen in a block of ice
 
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