Because the CDC is the internationally trusted Gold Standard in tracking diseases and has been for over 75 years. Even if you don't like the conclusions they make or the policies they advocate, as a repository of health data, they are second to none. That's why we reference the CDC and not random articles someone found on the internet "doing their research".
That’s not always how it works, even in “free” America.
We've been forced to take vaccines our entire lives, all for the greater good of society. Not sure how this is different. I'm genuinely trying to understand why people see this different...all I get is "emotional" responses vs anything well reasoned.
And this is what I mean when I say we’re not as free as people think we are.
I’m starting the Bring Back Polio Project. We need to stand up for our freedoms! Our goal will be to reintroduce the remaining, endangered polio virus to the United States and give people the freedom to chose for themselves!
Measles and Small Pox ain't so bad either...I'm sure some horse de-wormer will take care of everything!
I do find it quite interesting that some people who refuse to get the vaccine out of fear of ingredients, long-term effects, etc. will take medication that’s made for horses.
Or drink bleach
Look at that, more misinformation.But let's be honest here guys and remember that Polio was a horrible killer of otherwise healthy children. Thousands of American children died every year from Polio. My mom's side of the family had a youngster who died of Polio just before the vaccine became available. And even many of those children who survived Polio were crippled for life.
Polio had been around for eons and was a known and horrible killer of children, and yet little was known about how it was transmitted. The Polio vaccine was under development for over 20 years in America before Dr. Salk's breakthrough and the vaccine becoming available around 1955. It was today's equivalent of finding a vaccine for cancer or HIV. The Polio vaccine was huge, and had been publicly worked on for decades.
1952 = 3,100 Child Polio Deaths in USA, Over 20,000 children permanently paralyzed/crippled
2020 = 172 Child Covid Deaths in USA, All of them with pre-existing co-morbidities.
The population of the USA in 1952 was only 157 Million. It has more than doubled since then, and in 2020 the population of the USA was 331 Million.
Covid is entirely new. No one had even heard of Covid until 20 months ago. The vaccines didn't start until January. Covid's impact on healthy children is statistically tiny and medically negligible. Very little research has been done into Covid-19, much less the long term impacts of the vaccines on adults, much less children.
I am a firm believer in vaccines, being an American happily stuck back in the 20th century. I have droned on and on here about getting the Covid vaccine, and also Shingrix, and TDap, and Twinrix and Pneumovax and the annual Flu shot. An MMR booster doesn't hurt either.
That said, I do not blame parents like @mickEblu one bit for being hesitant on giving the Covid vaccine to their child. What's the harm in waiting? An American healthy child has more risk from drowning in a backyard pool or dying in a car crash than dying from Covid. Parents have every right to pause and see what this Covid vaccine really does to young children's development and long term health.
Fewer Children Died in 2020, Despite the Pandemic. Experts Are Trying to Figure Out Why
Early data suggest that, despite a global pandemic, child mortality rates fell in 2020. The reasons for the drop remain unclear.time.com
History of polio - Wikipedia
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Just curious what in his statement do you see as misinformation? It seems pretty factual to me.
The whole purpose of misinformation is to look factual. Random numbers that are correct but without context and improperly compared to other numbers all mushed together paint a picture very different from the truth.
ourworldindata.org
Thank you. I was going to mention some of the exact stats you did, but then had to eat dinner and walk the dogs.The whole purpose of misinformation is to look factual. Random numbers that are correct but without context and improperly compared to other numbers all mushed together paint a picture very different from the truth.
Just the claim of 3,100 American children dying of polio in 1952 is not true. That number is for all Americans who died of polio that year. Polio did not just afflict children. Remember, FDR was an adult when he contracted polio.
But why 1952? That isn’t the last year before the polio vaccine was introduced in 1955. No, 1952 is the single worst recorded year for cases and the second worst year for deaths in the US. 1951 and 1953 only saw about half as many deaths. The 1950s also saw an increase in cases.
The there is the question of magnitude. 3,100 deaths in a year is a lot (but wasn’t every year) but it was also out of nearly 58,000 cases. That’s about 5% of cases, and that also seems like a lot. That number though is only people who developed full blown paralytic polio, which is about 1/2% of those who get infected by the polio virus. Getting paralytic polio does not mean a guaranteed lifetime of paralysis and many recovered. Nearly ¾ of people infected with the polio virus never have symptoms. Only about ¼ have flu like symptoms. So those deaths are only about 0.025% of infections.
There’s the whole dying “with COVID” nonsense.
Then there is the peppering of lies of about the vaccine development timeline and long term issues. The development of the COVID-19 vaccines goes back years for both the mRNA vaccines and the viral vector vaccines. What makes these technologies so amazing is there adaptability. Both though rely on microbiological functions that have been understood for even longer. There is no need for research into “long term effects” because how vaccines work is known. Even how the new mRNA and viral vector vaccines work is known. A vaccine is not something stored in your body, the components are broken down, used and discarded. A complication can’t spontaneously start with nothing.
So yeah, I think mislabeled data, selectively chosen data, data without context and outright lies all presented as fact qualify as misinformation.
Reported paralytic polio cases and deaths
The reported figures include both wild- and vaccine-derived poliovirus infections that occurred indigenously and as imported cases.
But a guy who doesn’t know the difference between the cold and flu says there isn’t enough data, so it must be true.
