Project plans spotted at Haunted Mansion

JCrane

JCrane

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Guys,

I'm slighty concerned about these talks of HM being taken over by the Nightmare Before Christman...even if it is just for Xmas. I'm gonna be at the World from October 26th-November 9th and really hope to catch HM in it's 'original' state...(although, for the record, it's long overdue for a clean/freshen/slight refurb)...

Does anyone have any information on dates as to when they're likely to incorperate TNBC in for the holidays...

Thanks in advance guys and gals...
 
MeTa

MeTa

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JCrane said:
Guys,

I'm slighty concerned about these talks of HM being taken over by the Nightmare Before Christman...even if it is just for Xmas.
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I am all for changes as long as they are not "for good". I love the nostalgic rides, but it is nice to have something new to look forward to from time to time seeing that technology changes and they come up with new ideas.
 
wannab@dis

wannab@dis

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Shaman said:
Anyone think it's strange for them to be "on stage" with plans and the like? Bad show? :lookaroun
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Nope. It would, however, be different if they had several workers in hard hats with them. But a couple of people in casual attire with some plans doesn't strike me as an issue. :D
 
Shaman

Shaman

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wannab@dis said:
Nope. It would, however, be different if they had several workers in hard hats with them. But a couple of people in casual attire with some plans doesn't strike me as an issue. :D
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Maybe they're ghosts....:lookaroun :drevil: :lol:
 
kcnole

kcnole

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Does anyone have any information on dates as to when they're likely to incorperate TNBC in for the holidays...
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Hopefully never. As of right now there are no plans to bring TNBC to Walt Disney World. I would hope it would stay that way. I want some work to be done on this ride, I just don't want to see it down for the extended periods of time it has to be down to do that overlay.
 
Chux

Chux

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kcnole said:
Hopefully never. As of right now there are no plans to bring TNBC to Walt Disney World. I would hope it would stay that way. I want some work to be done on this ride, I just don't want to see it down for the extended periods of time it has to be down to do that overlay.
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So many closed minds here.
 
New2WDW

New2WDW

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edwardtc said:
Ok. The big unfolded print that "blue shirt" is holding has the words "AS BUILT" written on the bottom of the sheet. That means it is a drawing of how that area was actually built, either in original construction or during renovations. It is NOT a drawing for new plans or construction. I can't vouch for the one in "red shirt's" hand.

Nevertheless, it does indeed appear that the big sheet is a site plan of some sort - the curvy lines are not typical of architectural building plans, but moreso of site plans and topo plans. I would put my money on stroller/queue revamping.
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I agree! AS-BUILTS in hand, discussion on site - usually means they are trying to figure out an issue such as edwardtc mentioned. If they had design plans they would already be down on paper and guys would not be standing out and about like the picture shows trying to figure out what to do.
 
disneydata

disneydata

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Nightmare overlay will not be coming to Florida. The reason they do it in CA is the high amount of APs there and they need to keep the park "fresh" and chenge stuff up a bit so it has the revisit factor.
 
wannab@dis

wannab@dis

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STR8FAN2005 said:
We're not being closed minded, the NBC overlay just doesn't work for WDW.
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How come? Technically? Aesthetic?

I'm not a huge fan based just on the pictures I've seen, but I don't think anyone could say that it's not extremely popular!
 
Denscott

Denscott

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New2WDW said:
I agree! AS-BUILTS in hand, discussion on site - usually means they are trying to figure out an issue such as edwardtc mentioned. If they had design plans they would already be down on paper and guys would not be standing out and about like the picture shows trying to figure out what to do.
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Being in the design industry where it's my job to create layouts and drawings I totally agree except that usually Managers do not like having large plots like that...something small like an 11x17 or 8x11 is usually "good enough".

The only thing I can think is that what they have is actually a copy of the original layout, probably done in vellum. Depending on when the "as builts" were actually drawn out, a Computer Aided Design program (like AutoCad) may not have been available, thus the originals were hand-drawn, and are only in large format.

Man, I wonder if detailed discussions like this ever take place when I'm seen out in public with plots in hand!!! :lol:
 
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CaptainMichael

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wannab@dis said:
How come? Technically? Aesthetic?

I'm not a huge fan based just on the pictures I've seen, but I don't think anyone could say that it's not extremely popular!
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The concept doesn't work for a world wide vacation destination. For most people, a visit to WDW is rare, and they expect to ride the original HM. For the NBC overlay, the HM would have to be shut down twice a year to be transformed. From what I understand, this is a lengthy process. Again, people coming to WDW for the first time, or the last time, will miss the HM, a classic Disney attraction.

In Disneyland, this concept works because of a more local guest base. They do this to attract locals year round. WDW doesn't need that because they attract guests anyway and offer enough Christmas specific attractions.

I hope I made sense.
 
KevinPage

KevinPage

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The whole reason why Al Weiss has always vetod the NMBC makeover was because it wasn't really needed to draw more guests.

DL has alot more locals who need revamps to keep people coming back to keep things fresh.

WDW has more tourists who may one see the Mansion 1-2 times in their lifetime.

I would like to see the NMBS makeover, but not going to get my panties in a bind over it.

For a positive spin, the $$$ for this can be used elswhere (NEW attractions) & there is less downtime with closing the ride for the install & de-stall.
 
wannab@dis

wannab@dis

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STR8FAN2005 said:
The concept doesn't work for a world wide vacation destination. For most people, a visit to WDW is rare, and they expect to ride the original HM. For the NBC overlay, the HM would have to be shut down twice a year to be transformed. From what I understand, this is a lengthy process. Again, people coming to WDW for the first time, or the last time, will miss the HM, a classic Disney attraction.

In Disneyland, this concept works because of a more local guest base. They do this to attract locals year round. WDW doesn't need that because they attract guests anyway and offer enough Christmas specific attractions.

I hope I made sense.
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Perfect sense! And I agree with your sound logic. :wave:
 
New2WDW

New2WDW

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Denscott said:
usually Managers do not like having large plots like that...something small like an 11x17 or 8x11 is usually "good enough".
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This is definitely the trend now, especially in our office.
Denscott said:
The only thing I can think is that what they have is actually a copy of the original layout, probably done in vellum. Depending on when the "as builts" were actually drawn out, a Computer Aided Design program (like AutoCad) may not have been available, thus the originals were hand-drawn, and are only in large format.
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These are "E" size bond sheets (they wouldn't be crazy enough to take an original into the field) and after zooming in on the drawings they are definitely CAD originated and after looking at the big picture they are definitely gazing at the stroller parking area or either the girl that just walked by. Either way they are definitely staring at the same thing!:lol:

It's always good to meet someone in the same field! What area of Arch/Engr are you working with?
 

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