Bacon
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304583When might that be?![]()

304583When might that be?![]()
"Trains Ahead" most likely the cause, as usual..
Was the narration for it back?Was on the ride last Friday 8/19 and we saw the city.
I'm not going to make a lot of friends for this, but does anyone else feel like the model never really belonged up there? I mean, Tomorrowland never had the most cohesive themeing, but even going with what they gave you it never made sense for a big 1960s-era model of a planned city sitting above an actual city/plaza of some sort of sci-fi future.
I don't know where else they would put the thing in a theme park, and it's not as if the Peoplemover was full of other high-end show scenes (I guess there's that one lady getting a perm) but like the Grand Canyon and Primeval World scenes along the Disneyland Railroad, it makes less than zero sense in context.
I'd argue: maybe.
On the one hand it's a 1960s-era model, as you describe. Hardly the future. On the other hand it's a model of a "future city" which kind of screams the future. I've always been kind of fascinated by it. It's one of the few things in Tomorrowland that actually feels like it has something to do with tomorrow.
The other things along the PeopleMover are kind of dumb by comparison. The woman with her head completely covered in some kind of beauty apparatus, the goofy robot to your right just before you look down at the gift shop, and I think I'm missing one other thing.
I do get what you're saying, though. I don't know if the original model would fit (what's there was cut down from the original) but a nice little walk-through in the old Odyssey restaurant would be cool over in Epcot.
They did a pretty good job with the Walt Disney walk-through at DHS. While never packed, it was always busy when I'd enter.
The models always got me. Just the notion of: This is what it'd going to look like.. We're going to build THIS!
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I would argue that "One Man's Dream" plus the entire museum in the Presidio and the entire working model of Progress City belong somewhere in Epcot since E.P.C.O.T. was actually the last thing Walt talked to his brother about. The Odyssey seems as good a place as any since they aren't using it. I'd also vote for either side of Innoventions. Hollywood Studios now seems wrong for it as does Tomorrowland since it isn't as much about tomorrow.I'd argue: maybe.
On the one hand it's a 1960s-era model, as you describe. Hardly the future. On the other hand it's a model of a "future city" which kind of screams the future. I've always been kind of fascinated by it. It's one of the few things in Tomorrowland that actually feels like it has something to do with tomorrow.
The other things along the PeopleMover are kind of dumb by comparison. The woman with her head completely covered in some kind of beauty apparatus, the goofy robot to your right just before you look down at the gift shop, and I think I'm missing one other thing.
I do get what you're saying, though. I don't know if the original model would fit (what's there was cut down from the original) but a nice little walk-through in the old Odyssey restaurant would be cool over in Epcot.
I'm not going to make a lot of friends for this, but does anyone else feel like the model never really belonged up there? I mean, Tomorrowland never had the most cohesive themeing, but even going with what they gave you it never made sense for a big 1960s-era model of a planned city sitting above an actual city/plaza of some sort of sci-fi future.
I don't know where else they would put the thing in a theme park, and it's not as if the Peoplemover was full of other high-end show scenes (I guess there's that one lady getting a perm) but like the Grand Canyon and Primeval World scenes along the Disneyland Railroad, it makes less than zero sense in context.
but why not in EPCOT... the park that was all about looking towards the real future...put a real meaningful Disney museum in...with the full progress City Model, the futurist Disney films they used to run in the Rocket Rods Queue...They could honestly create an amazing permanent exhibition on Walt Disney and the Future...and move COP over as the centerpiece...When it was in Disneyland, the Progress City model was the final scene of The Carousel of Progress. It was on the second floor above the Carousel Theater which you reached by going up a speed ramp from the final room inside the theater, and it was also view-able from the Disneyland People Mover. When CoP was moved to WDW in the 1970's though, they ditched the second floor exit, cut down the Progress City model and crammed it into it's spot along the "WED way People Mover" (which was another of Walt's ideas) so in part it was a way to keep some aspect of the Original Disneyland verison of the People Mover/Carousel of Progress ride going in WDW...
Back in the 1970's and early 1980's when Tomorowland was presenting a plausible "real world" vision of the future, the Progress City model fit in well with the rest of the "Wed Way People Mover" narration... along with a "view" from the people mover... but after the actual EPOCT Center opened in 1982, and once Tomorrowland got it's Buck Rogers/Cartoon make over if the early 1990's, it stopped making any kind of sense to me personally. I know people love it, but to me keeping the Progress City model around on the ride is like if the continued to keep the Thunder Mesa/Western River model on display on Main Street... but I think if they could possibly bring themselves to part with the retail space, there should be some kind of WDW museum for stuff like this at Disney Springs, which is near where the original WDW Preview Center was and with Disney Springs retro vibe it would probably be a good fit
but why not in EPCOT... the park that was all about looking towards the real future...put a real meaningful Disney museum in...with the full progress City Model, the futurist Disney films they used to run in the Rocket Rods Queue...They could honestly create an amazing permanent exhibition on Walt Disney and the Future...and move COP over as the centerpiece...
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