pro-DCA Thread

DLMAGICDARREN

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Originally posted by Toonfinder
Ok... I live a few blocks away from DLR so I'll try to pull this one off without any cynicism (wow, that could prove to be challenging to say the least)...



HI Toonfinder, and what took you so long to join?
 

DLMAGICDARREN

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5 things I love about DCA, easy!

1) Pacific Wharf!
2) Animation
3) Hyperian Theater
4) Soap Opera Bistro
5) Of couse Screamin, Grizzly, and Soarin! (Wait that's 3 things, I cheated :)

That's only five and I could easily go on!
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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Original Poster
Originally posted by DLMAGICDARREN
HI Toonfinder, and what took you so long to join?

Niekon's been here for a while... I guess it just took a certain type of thread to get him to post
 

pheneix

Well-Known Member
>>>then I guess you are a Spoiled Baby..
Allways complaining<<<

Oh man, that is one of the weakest names I have been called. My personal favorite is "Flaming @$$hole." :D
 

CalDisney

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Originally posted by pheneix
>>>then I guess you are a Spoiled Baby..
Allways complaining<<<

Oh man, that is one of the weakest names I have been called. My personal favorite is "Flaming @$$hole." :D

Hhmm.......
Are you???
C`mon Cant we all get along together??:king:
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Original Poster
Originally posted by CalDisney


Hhmm.......
Are you???
C`mon Cant we all get along together??:king:

not when people purposely push buttons...

All who have read this thread entirely, know who I'm talking about
 

Toonfinder

New Member
Originally posted by mktiggerman


Niekon's been here for a while... I guess it just took a certain type of thread to get him to post

:D

I am on so many boards these days, I can't even keep up to date on all of them... hell, I can't even get to my own boards as often as I'd like to but other things come up that require the attnetion of my liver for long periods of time.

But yes, something drew me to this thread... thanks to mktiggerman for pointing it out to me... otherwise I'd have most likely skipped it altogether.

BTW: someone mentioned various places for food in DCA in their list (CalDisney I think?)... I have to agree with those places as definite worth visiting. Soap Opera Bistro is a good one to add to the eateries at DCA... the atmosphere was great even if they are the only sit-down place in DLR that serves alcohol to not include Guinness on the menu :(
Oh well... back to work I guess... got to earn that $$$ so I can enjoy my trip to WDW in 51 days :)
 

skiaugusta

New Member
What's great about DCA?

1. No crowds
2. It takes about four hours to see the whole place .... twice
3. That quiet walkway behind the rapids..it's also a smoking spot..but theres never anyone there.
4. The Beasts library in the animation building
5. The kids love the wilderness play area
6. Watching people pose for pictures in the letters of California out front.
7. Learning how tortillas are made and then sampling them afterward:slurp:
8. The attractions...all three of them!
 

CalDisney

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Originally posted by skiaugusta
What's great about DCA?

1. No crowds
2. It takes about four hours to see the whole place .... twice
3. That quiet walkway behind the rapids..it's also a smoking spot..but theres never anyone there.
4. The Beasts library in the animation building
5. The kids love the wilderness play area
6. Watching people pose for pictures in the letters of California out front.
7. Learning how tortillas are made and then sampling them afterward:slurp:
8. The attractions...all three of them!
WEll I would Normally Welcome new people BUT!!!
the way you Quote in this thread Sounds Kinda Negative:(
2 hrs to go through the whole park?? three attractions?
You are missing out on the Park--- And there are other attractions
like Golden Dreams/ Seasons of the Vine/ and It`s tough to be a Bug/ and Millionaire

Not to Mention the New Attractions next Month Fliks Funfair..
And comming soon ToT (which is being Built) Hopefully will open in 2004:):p
 

Merlin

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This will probably shock a lot of people, but I wanted to do my best to respect the spirit of this thread by keeping my comments about DCA positive (which is probably why it took me so long to post to it). I believe I've made my general opinions of DCA well-known, but here are some positives I came up with:

1. Grand Californian is inside the park. This, to me, is truly a very cool aspect of DLR. Many of you fellow Walt fans probably already know that he wanted to do this at WDW, but his advisors told him it would be a logistical nightmare. Originally, though, the Contemporary Resort Hotel was supposed to be in Tomorrowland, Polynesian was supposed to be in Adventureland, and Fort Wilderness was going to be in Frontierland. In keeping with that thought process, Imagineers designed Grand Floridian to represent the look and feel of Main Street. Anyway, I was very pleased to see Disney solve the "logistical nightmare" and place a hotel inside a Disney park.

2. California Screamin'. As much as I'd love to take a wrecking ball to the rest of Paradise Pier, I have to admit that Screamin' is a decent coaster. As a coaster buff as well as a Disney buff, I'd have to protect Screamin' from said wrecking ball. Although it is not literally a wooden coaster, there is something truly beautiful about a classic-looking woody.

3. Proximity to DL. At WDW, you could possibly walk from Epcot to MGM, but you'd be so exhausted by the time you got there, you'd want to collapse (at least I would...I've never actually done it). But at DLR, it is just a hop, skip and a jump from one park to another. In addition, DTD is also an easy walk, as is your hotel provided you're staying at Grand Californian. This pedestrian aspect of the resort is, among other things, environmentally friendly (similar to Universal Orlando, only with an even better layout). Now if they would just put in a water park which is also within walking distance of everything else, that would be pretty cool.

4. The food. Generally speaking, superior to Disneyland.

5. The concept. Although I'm disappointed with the way in which they've deviated from the "California" theme, I am still hoping maybe they'll get back on track and do some really cool stuff with the idea. Perhaps this is just a pipe dream, but if they do some great things with the California theme, then maybe we'll one day see parks such as "Disney's Florida Adventure", "Disney's Texas Adventure", etc. Done right, that could potentially be an awesome chain of parks spread around the country. What a great road trip that would make!

Wow! I did it! Let's keep this our little secret. I would hate for word to get out that I had 5 positive things to say about DCA!
 

Tigggrl

Well-Known Member
I saw it!:lol:
What I like best about DCA...Its open every day! And I can visit it every day:)
The Pier is beautiful at night!
The additions to FFF area and Bountiful Farm are gonna be really cool...
Soarin!
The animation building...especially Beasts Library
Avalon Cove
The band that drives through the park...those guys are gooood!
Tha acapella group is as well
Millionaire!
Grizzly River Rapids area...Love to walk thru there
Golden Dreams...
and...and...and...:sohappy:
 

DLMAGICDARREN

New Member
Originally posted by Merlin


1. Grand Californian is inside the park. This, to me, is truly a very cool aspect of DLR. Many of you fellow Walt fans probably already know that he wanted to do this at WDW, but his advisors told him it would be a logistical nightmare. Originally, though, the Contemporary Resort Hotel was supposed to be in Tomorrowland, Polynesian was supposed to be in Adventureland, and Fort Wilderness was going to be in Frontierland. In keeping with that thought process, Imagineers designed Grand Floridian to represent the look and feel of Main Street. Anyway, I was very pleased to see Disney solve the "logistical nightmare" and place a hotel inside a Disney park.


That's pretty intresting, something I'd never heard or read. I'd be intrested to hear where you heard or read this, because I've read a lot and never heard anything about this, but I would like to.

Everything I've read showd that Walt didn't even have much intrest in Magic Kingdom, his dream and energies was to build Epcot. Most the unique attractions of Magic Kingdom, were actually things he already tired to install at Disneyland, such as Hall of Presidents. Disneyland East, later renamed Magic Kingdom, was simply a way Roy convinced Walt to fund the entire Disney World project, and all Roy had to do was use existing plans of existing attractions, while Walt concentrated on Epcot. Of course we all know the main difference of Magic Kingdom over Disneyland (especially as Magic Kingdom origianlly opened), was in layout of the attractions, not the attractions themselves, so I could see Walt wanting this, he many times asked for things unfeasable. Of course we all know Walt's illness affected everything, and the company was involved in the aquisition of land until mid 1965, Walt died the following year, so when did he exactly develop these plans for the hotels to be inside Disneyland East? I can see the similaraties of the hotels, behind the lands you mentioned, and I'd like to read more about this.
 

CalDisney

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Very Nice Merlin:)

Tigggrl`s is Nice too:):)
I love just sitting in the Hotel lobby and listening to the Piano player
or watching People go by:)
 

Merlin

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Originally posted by DLMAGICDARREN


That's pretty intresting, something I'd never heard or read. I'd be intrested to hear where you heard or read this, because I've read a lot and never heard anything about this, but I would like to.

Everything I've read showd that Walt didn't even have much intrest in Magic Kingdom, his dream and energies was to build Epcot. Most the unique attractions of Magic Kingdom, were actually things he already tired to install at Disneyland, such as Hall of Presidents. Disneyland East, later renamed Magic Kingdom, was simply a way Roy convinced Walt to fund the entire Disney World project, and all Roy had to do was use existing plans of existing attractions, while Walt concentrated on Epcot. Of course we all know the main difference of Magic Kingdom over Disneyland (especially as Magic Kingdom origianlly opened), was in layout of the attractions, not the attractions themselves, so I could see Walt wanting this, he many times asked for things unfeasable. Of course we all know Walt's illness affected everything, and the company was involved in the aquisition of land until mid 1965, Walt died the following year, so when did he exactly develop these plans for the hotels to be inside Disneyland East? I can see the similaraties of the hotels, behind the lands you mentioned, and I'd like to read more about this.

Walt absolutely was focused on Epcot. That is correct. But occasionally he would give input when he had a creative idea about the theme park (much as he still occasionally did with the animated films after he essentially had lost interest in them and became more focused on Disneyland). So far, I've only ever heard it from one source, but it was credible enough for me to not doubt it's accuracy. When I worked in the Disney Store, we used to watch training and information videos at night while we were cleaning up after we closed. This one in particular was hosted by one of the bigwigs from WDW (I can't recall who it was). Anyway, it was a lengthy video and a lot of the information really stood out in my mind. The part about the hotels mentioned that Walt thought it would be cool if these themed ones could be either in their respective themed areas of the park or around the perimeter. His advisors told him it wouldn't work for a couple of reasons. One, the scale of the hotels would not fit within the scale of the rest of the park. Two, they'd have to manage all the separate exits and entrances to the park from each of these hotels. Also, it would be a pain trying to distinguish between guests who were checking in versus those who were just passing through on their way to and from the park and this would create additional crowd control challenges.

This always stood out in my mind because back when they were considering building Westcot, they were already planning to have a hotel inside the park. Hotel guests were going to have 24 hour access to the park (even when it was closed and nothing was running).

I'll try to find out more on this for you. A co-worker of mine at the time made copies of some of the videos. I'll find out if he has this one and see if I can at least get the name of the guy who hosted it.

I also remember him talking on the same video about how they incorporated cast member input when they redesigned the inside of the Contemporary. He also talked about the speedboats on Seven Seas Lagoon and Bay Lake and how, when they first were considering offering this recreation to guests, they didn't like the design of the boats that were available (would get damaged too easily) so the Imagineers designed the boats themselves to be essentially two pieces (like a Tupperware container). Anyway, it was an incredibly informative video and had a lot of info such as this which I had never heard before. Now as I write this, I'm becoming more determined to track it down. It may take me a while but I'll see if I can find it.
 

DLMAGICDARREN

New Member
Thanks for sharing that Merlin, very intresting to learn. What I'm extremely curious about was they years that Walt made specific plans or input for Disneyland East. Since the land acquisition took till about 1965, and his death followed the next year, I wonder what years he was really busy making specific plans for Disneyland East, or Epcot.
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
I love DCA and can't imagine why everyone hates it. Here it goes...

10.) Yes, I love it this much, I'm starting at 10. Golden Dreams. Very good. Better movie than American Adventure, but the song is cheesie.

9.) Pacific Warf- looks beautiful, just I woudn't call bread and chips an attraction.

8.) Mickey Bread- you know what I'm talking about

7.) Water- gee, it's everwhere, and boy, do I LOVE IT! Water falls, waves, and standing water.

6.) Shiney- where as DL was somewhat dark and craped, DCA was shiney (lots of glass and mirrors) and not cramped at all.

5.) Grizzly River Run- good, a lot better than Kali, and worth visiting again.

4.) Animation- beautiful, although they just tuch on creation, not much on production and post-production.

3.) BLAST!- the best show anywhere. Period.

2.) California' Screamin'- Not the best coaster, but it's a very good one.

1.) Soarin' Over California- wherether or not Patrick Warburton is the host or that it is beautifly themed, I don't know, but I love this ride.
 

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