Princess Leia....A Disney Princess?

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Trying to figure out if Leia should be a DP based on the attributes of a set is the wrong way to go, unless you know the one attribute that Official Disney uses. Here's how you can fall into the trap of figuring it out by looking at who's already an official DP...

Since the set is collectively called "Disney Princesses", one assumes that they must all be actual royalty. Or have been created by Disney. Or any female character in a Disney movie who is a princess. But then we realize those rules don't apply.

  • Created by Disney: No. Most are folklore. Some by known authors such as Hans Christian Anderson for Ariel or Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve for Belle.
  • Royalty: No. Some are married into royalty (Cinderella, Belle). And Mulan is neither royal nor marries into royalty. Mulan's presence pretty much means that just about any heroic female character can make it into the list of Disney Princesses.
  • A product of Disney Animation: No. Merida is Pixar. And she's CGI, to boot. No classical hand-drawn Disney animation there. This opens the door for DPs to come from Marvel or LucasFilm or some other studio purchase in the future.
  • The star of the movie: No. Jasmine is what we call a supporting actor in Aladdin which is about.... Aladdin.
  • Human: No. This one comes up a lot when people wonder if any of the royal talking-animals will enter the group. And the reason this is no is because Ariel isn't human, she's only half human. Would this open the door for a future alien princess? A robotic sentient princess? Also, for a short time, Tinkerbell was indeed part of the lineup of Disney princesses, and she ain't human.
  • Any animated princess: No. Princesses from Atlantis or the Black Cauldron don't make it. Elsa and Anna haven't made it.

So, what the heck is the unifying trait which makes a Disney Princess a Disney Princess© ?

1. they fit "the princess mythology"
2. they can be -- and benefit from being -- marketed as part of the Disney Princess© brand.

And that's why they were created. The fuller story is on their Wiki page.

So, rather than have the princess character be marketed only in their own IP (e.g., Jasmine as part of the Aladdin franchise), she is also marketed as part of the Disney Princess© brand franchise for the synergy (gotta collect them all!) Minor princesses who don't bring value to the group or who won't get a big enough boost from the group get excluded (sorry Kida and Eilowyn). Other princesses who don't need the boost and are doing just fine on their own also stay out of the group (oh, hai, Anna & Elsa!).

So, that's their origin story and why there are so many exceptions to what would seem like expected and reasonable rules. In the end, they're a Disney Princess© because marketing says so.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
Trying to figure out if Leia should be a DP based on the attributes of a set is the wrong way to go, unless you know the one attribute that Official Disney uses. Here's how you can fall into the trap of figuring it out by looking at who's already an official DP...

Since the set is collectively called "Disney Princesses", one assumes that they must all be actual royalty. Or have been created by Disney. Or any female character in a Disney movie who is a princess. But then we realize those rules don't apply.

  • Created by Disney: No. Most are folklore. Some by known authors such as Hans Christian Anderson for Ariel or Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve for Belle.
  • Royalty: No. Some are married into royalty (Cinderella, Belle). And Mulan is neither royal nor marries into royalty. Mulan's presence pretty much means that just about any heroic female character can make it into the list of Disney Princesses.
  • A product of Disney Animation: No. Merida is Pixar. And she's CGI, to boot. No classical hand-drawn Disney animation there. This opens the door for DPs to come from Marvel or LucasFilm or some other studio purchase in the future.
  • The star of the movie: No. Jasmine is what we call a supporting actor in Aladdin which is about.... Aladdin.
  • Human: No. This one comes up a lot when people wonder if any of the royal talking-animals will enter the group. And the reason this is no is because Ariel isn't human, she's only half human. Would this open the door for a future alien princess? A robotic sentient princess? Also, for a short time, Tinkerbell was indeed part of the lineup of Disney princesses, and she ain't human.
  • Any animated princess: No. Princesses from Atlantis or the Black Cauldron don't make it. Elsa and Anna haven't made it.

So, what the heck is the unifying trait which makes a Disney Princess a Disney Princess© ?

1. they fit "the princess mythology"
2. they can be -- and benefit from being -- marketed as part of the Disney Princess© brand.

And that's why they were created. The fuller story is on their Wiki page.

So, rather than have the princess character be marketed only in their own IP (e.g., Jasmine as part of the Aladdin franchise), she is also marketed as part of the Disney Princess© brand franchise for the synergy (gotta collect them all!) Minor princesses who don't bring value to the group or who won't get a big enough boost from the group get excluded (sorry Kida and Eilowyn). Other princesses who don't need the boost and are doing just fine on their own also stay out of the group (oh, hai, Anna & Elsa!).

So, that's their origin story and why there are so many exceptions to what would seem like expected and reasonable rules. In the end, they're a Disney Princess© because marketing says so.

Exactly, exactly, exactly. Well done.
 

Jimmy Thick

Well-Known Member
Disney Princesses are for children. Trying to decipher if a strong female character is a princess or not could hurt a child's feelings somewhere in this world but if you really feel the need to dwell upon such things I beg you to consider just how really important such a question truly is.

Here is a hint.
Who cares?

Jimmy Thick- Next thing you know people will be complaining about CGI of long dead actors...
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
Trying to figure out if Leia should be a DP based on the attributes of a set is the wrong way to go, unless you know the one attribute that Official Disney uses. Here's how you can fall into the trap of figuring it out by looking at who's already an official DP...

Since the set is collectively called "Disney Princesses", one assumes that they must all be actual royalty. Or have been created by Disney. Or any female character in a Disney movie who is a princess. But then we realize those rules don't apply.

  • Created by Disney: No. Most are folklore. Some by known authors such as Hans Christian Anderson for Ariel or Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve for Belle.
  • Royalty: No. Some are married into royalty (Cinderella, Belle). And Mulan is neither royal nor marries into royalty. Mulan's presence pretty much means that just about any heroic female character can make it into the list of Disney Princesses.
  • A product of Disney Animation: No. Merida is Pixar. And she's CGI, to boot. No classical hand-drawn Disney animation there. This opens the door for DPs to come from Marvel or LucasFilm or some other studio purchase in the future.
  • The star of the movie: No. Jasmine is what we call a supporting actor in Aladdin which is about.... Aladdin.
  • Human: No. This one comes up a lot when people wonder if any of the royal talking-animals will enter the group. And the reason this is no is because Ariel isn't human, she's only half human. Would this open the door for a future alien princess? A robotic sentient princess? Also, for a short time, Tinkerbell was indeed part of the lineup of Disney princesses, and she ain't human.
  • Any animated princess: No. Princesses from Atlantis or the Black Cauldron don't make it. Elsa and Anna haven't made it.

So, what the heck is the unifying trait which makes a Disney Princess a Disney Princess© ?

1. they fit "the princess mythology"
2. they can be -- and benefit from being -- marketed as part of the Disney Princess© brand.

And that's why they were created. The fuller story is on their Wiki page.

So, rather than have the princess character be marketed only in their own IP (e.g., Jasmine as part of the Aladdin franchise), she is also marketed as part of the Disney Princess© brand franchise for the synergy (gotta collect them all!) Minor princesses who don't bring value to the group or who won't get a big enough boost from the group get excluded (sorry Kida and Eilowyn). Other princesses who don't need the boost and are doing just fine on their own also stay out of the group (oh, hai, Anna & Elsa!).

So, that's their origin story and why there are so many exceptions to what would seem like expected and reasonable rules. In the end, they're a Disney Princess© because marketing says so.

My short answer is "no". You can find Disney princesses all over WDW primarily in the parks and the resorts. Leia is part of the SW franchise and belongs in HS only. While realizing that Carrie Fisher observed her image was plastered everywhere as Leia long before Disney bought the franchise, let's not take it further by making her a Disney gimmick.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
My short answer is "no". You can find Disney princesses all over WDW primarily in the parks and the resorts. Leia is part of the SW franchise and belongs in HS only. While realizing that Carrie Fisher observed her image was plastered everywhere as Leia long before Disney bought the franchise, let's not take it further by making her a Disney gimmick.

I didn't ask a question.
 

taz0162

Well-Known Member
I say yes as very few of whom are part of the Disney Princesses were actually created by Disney. And if you want to say well Star wars is not a Disney film Brave was a Pixar film and Merida became a Disney Princess. Leia was titled Princess in a New Hope eventually becoming a General.

Now if you are going to say Disney princesses are for children who's to say that a Princess can't be a strong willed role model.
 

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