Prices up…profits down…

[Disneylover69]

Doubt it

There was widespread abuse and they just took the abuse away.

The entitled don’t deter that easily

The “entitled” is a weird way to phase how they are rejecting people who use literal feeding tubes or other mydraid of conditions that are now routinely being rejected. No one knows the true abuse that was taking place, but what we do know if Disney cut off enough people and then turned around and started selling a new product to replace the people in the lighting lanes. So they took away DAS from people with feeding tubes and other disabilities and gave that space to someone who is willing to fork over hundreds of dollars a day

 

[John park hopper]

Makes sense people on feeding tubes aren't buying snacks and high priced TS (sarcasm)

 

[Nevermore525]

You gotta get off the Google, dude

Movies have always been tracked by RELEASE YEAR…
How long have you been at this?

Subtract avatar and recompute

In fact…let’s dive deep. They throw everything under the sun under the “products and experiences” tab

Which is the point…it runs interference for things not doing so great under the bloat.

So dig deeper…
What’s doing well? What isn’t doing so well?

I specifically said fiscal multiple times. You want it switched to annual vs fiscal that’s fine. Fiscal is how Disney reports their financial data which is the same as what Forbes used to source the story you posted. So I guess Forbes should get off the Google too?

As it stands with 3 months left theatrical annual revenue 2023 is $362M ahead of annual 2024 with October-December not yet reported.

 

[networkpro]

The “entitled” is a weird way to phase how they are rejecting people who use literal feeding tubes or other mydraid of conditions that are now routinely being rejected. No one knows the true abuse that was taking place, but what we do know if Disney cut off enough people and then turned around and started selling a new product to replace the people in the lighting lanes. So they took away DAS from people with feeding tubes and other disabilities and gave that space to someone who is willing to fork over hundreds of dollars a day

No matter your individual ire at the new requirements for DAS eligibility, the elimination of its abuse has had the desired effect of eliminating unplanned capacity consumption and thereby.making the.standby lines move again.

 

[Chi84]

Disney also makes it difficult for families to vacation there. Any family with a young child dreads the bus where they are forced to fold up their stroller and one holds the stroller and another holds the kids and now if that family has two young twins or two young kids who both need to be in a stroller or three, well now that’s a logistical issue. Then of course once on the bus there’s no guarantee they will get a seat.

Disney has slowly increased prices and decreased services and constantly changing their polcies to maximize profit. Just look at topalinos where it’s now just one dish

How would you have Disney get these young families to the parks?

 

[Disneylover69]

No matter your individual ire at the new requirements for DAS eligibility, the elimination of its abuse has had the desired effect of eliminating unplanned capacity consumption and thereby.making the.standby lines move again.

but Disney doesn’t want the standby lines to move. If the standby lines are too short they won’t be able to cash in on lighting lanes

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The “entitled” is a weird way to phase how they are rejecting people who use literal feeding tubes or other mydraid of conditions that are now routinely being rejected. No one knows the true abuse that was taking place, but what we do know if Disney cut off enough people and then turned around and started selling a new product to replace the people in the lighting lanes. So they took away DAS from people with feeding tubes and other disabilities and gave that space to someone who is willing to fork over hundreds of dollars a day

I’m not talking those with disabilities…legit argument

I’m talking about those that got wind and used spoiled kids or their bladder preferences to skip lines and get privilege

They took the legit down with them.

And of course…Disney for profit under the guise of “fairness”

 

[Disneylover69]

How would you have Disney get these young families to the parks?

Have each bus tow an enclosed trailer for people to roll their unoccupied strollers onto similar to how buses tow trailers for luggage. It will free up space in the bus and also make the bus safer

 

[Chi84]

Have each bus tow an enclosed trailer for people to roll their unoccupied strollers onto similar to how buses tow trailers for luggage. It will free up space in the bus and also make the bus safer

Ah, I wonder why Disney didn’t think of that.

 

[Disneylover69]

I’m not talking those with disabilities…legit argument

I’m talking about those that got wind and used spoiled kids or their bladder preferences to skip lines and get privilege

They took the legit down with them.

And of course…Disney for profit under the guise of “fairness”

Most kids going to Disney are spoiled in some way or another and privileged. It is not a need to go to Disney. Basically sounds like social media killed DAS. The premium lightening lanes time is highly suspect

 

[Disneylover69]

Ah, I wonder why Disney didn’t think of that.

i am sure there are reasons, it’s an issue that many families have that no good solution has been put forth by Disney

 

[John park hopper]

Ban all kids who can't walk on their own strollers are verboten

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Most kids going to Disney are spoiled in some way or another and privileged. It is not a need to go to Disney. Basically sounds like social media killed DAS. The premium lightening lanes time is highly suspect

Privileged ADULTS are really to blame

And CMs…they were peddling this like Patronage

But I don’t disagree with you

 

[Ayla]

Have each bus tow an enclosed trailer for people to roll their unoccupied strollers onto similar to how buses tow trailers for luggage. It will free up space in the bus and also make the bus safer

Oh my lord, can you imagine the chaos?? And that still doesn't solve your supposed problem of having more than one child to deal with...

 

[networkpro]

Disney also makes it difficult for families to vacation there. Any family with a young child dreads the bus where they are forced to fold up their stroller and one holds the stroller and another holds the kids and now if that family has two young twins or two young kids who both need to be in a stroller or three, well now that’s a logistical issue. Then of course once on the bus there’s no guarantee they will get a seat.

Disney has slowly increased prices and decreased services and constantly changing their polcies to maximize profit. Just look at topalinos where it’s now just one dish

Do you not understand that folding strollers on a bus is a Florida law ?

 

[Chi84]

Do you not understand that folding strollers on a bus is a Florida law ?

But what about towing the strollers behind the bus in a trailer? Is there a law for that?

 

[Disneylover69]

Ban all kids who can.t walk on their own strollers are verboten

People actually think that

 

[Phonedave]

Disney's Theme Park Division Reports Lowest Profit In Two Years

Earlier this month Disney announced sparkling results. However, buried at the bottom of the key points on its earnings report was the news a dark cloud hangs over its theme parks.

www.forbes.com

Can someone please explain to me how this can be? (Use small words)

Boiled down into 3 points

1. People who had money because they did not travel during the pandemic have spent that money.
2. The people who want to go to Disney Parks as a regular vacation do not have the money to do so.
3. The people who can afford to go to Disney Parks are more likely to do something else (international travel) than go to Disney Parks

 

[Disneylover69]

Oh my lord, can you imagine the chaos?? And that still doesn't solve your supposed problem of having more than one child to deal with...

So yea it has some kinks to work out that the people getting paid the big bucks can deal with lol

Do you not understand that folding strollers on a bus is a Florida law ?

what law is that?

 

[Phonedave]

Disney has finally burned through all its good will (earned over 70 years) and now they are not even "just another company," but instead actively disliked by a large portion of their formerly most loyal patrons. Couple that with pricing the middle class completely out of the resorts and declining by degrees every year since 1994ish and you have a parks division that is in a death spiral.

Specifically, their biggest errors include:

1. Moving from a "we're trying to turn every family (even lower middle class families) into repeat customers for life" model to a "we're going to pressure young moms into taking their kids to WDW once and spending their life savings on the trip" model - wringing every last dollar out of a guest,

2. Stratifying the guest experience (closing parks for separate-ticket events, paying to skip lines, etc) and then chasing whales (who are fickle) at the expense of less-wealthy devoted Disney fans,

3. Building half-day and quarter-day parks with the "we'll add more over time" attitude - only they hardly ever add more, they simply remove and replace occassionally, and

4. Attacking their most loyal customers in the culture war.

I wrote this in 2021 and it's even worse now ...

I 100% agree. I have told this story multiple times before. When I first started going to WDW, it took up a much larger chunk of my disposable income, but I did so because I enjoyed it because the VALUE was there.

Now, even at current prices, WDW takes a much smaller portion of my disposable income. But I go less and less. The value is not there, the 4 points you made above are in effect, and they keep cutting out experiences that I used to enjoy. My wife and I used to go to F&W 2 out of 3 years, and dropped some serious coin doing so by booking seminars, experiences, dinners, and buying merch. We have not been to F&W since the pandemic, and have no desire to go, until they bring back those experiences.