Price of Gas Impact on Disneyland?

Minnesota disney fan

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The high gas prices aren't stopping us from coming from N. Mn to Phoenix, then a trip to CAl and DL.
The cost difference between an annual trip to WDW verses driving to Az is alot. We figured an extra 200 or 300 for driving, and that's at the top estimate!
Another factor is that we are both retired and we don't know how long we will be able to travel like this, so we are definitely going. We have another trip to Tn and possibly Fla this fall.
 

Sailor310

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Many of them are rather harmless. Or at least unconcious. But many are not stable, and are dangerous. Or at the very least, creepy and uncomfortable to be around. Plus the smell.

Trust me, I've taken plenty of subways back East. And I've walked down Harbor Blvd. after sundown to get to the Pizza Press many times. They're typical homeless druggies. Unstable, under the influence, continually making very bad choices for themselves and others. You couldn't pay me to hang out with them when I have a car, enough disposable income to visit Disneyland, and the Uber App on my phone.

And I'm a single grown man who can take care of myself. If I was a slightly built woman and/or had young children with me... no way in hell would I subject them to this to prove to the ether that I'm a good person for taking the bus.

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I have a friend who LOVES to show people around LA using public transportation. He talked me into parking at a Park and Ride west of DL and paying the $2 to take a bus into DL. I used the men's room before waiting for the bus. Someone had tried to rip a steel panel off the wall, thrown up in the sink, and left a pile of clothes. On the way home the same folks in this picture were sleeping away. A few CMs were waiting for the same bus. It was fun chatting with them. Back at the park and ride, that night, we were headed for the car when a large, dark object came out of the shadow of the building and scared me to death. As it came into the light, I saw it was a covered cart being pushed by a harmless older woman. I offered to pay for DL parking next time we went to DL. ;)
 
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TP2000

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I spend $600 on gas a month with these prices. For spending premium fuel for a high end car. :in pain:
From constant daily commute for work. I wanted to plan this fall…but if prices don’t drop. I will postpone it and find other means of entertainment. Or find other means to make me happy.

The Premium cost is alarming. Both my cars require Premium. It's close to 7 bucks a gallon now at the Chevron stations near me for the 91 octane both engines require. Insanity.

I've visited the parks 20 times since I got my Magic Key so its $600 that Disney didn't get from me.

I LOVE that! Keep doing it, please.

I got into the habit of just Uber'ing over to the park. A round trip Uber for the 7 mile trip from my house to Disneyland's drop off zone on Harbor Blvd. often costs me a few bucks less than the $30 parking costs now, including a nice tip for the Uber drivers.

It's also much faster than dealing with the messy and hectic walk/tram to Mickey & Friends, plus the exit congestion trying to get out of the structure and on to Ball Road. I can often get home from Main Street USA to my front door in about 30 minutes flat via Uber, or vice versa to the park.
 

TP2000

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Thinking about how quickly I can get from Main Street USA to my front door via Uber (30 minutes or less, including the walk out to Harbor Blvd.) I just checked several transit options via Google Maps right now at 5:50PM on a Monday, peak rush hour. One envisioning a Disneyland fan from Mission Viejo down in southern OC, and one for a Disneyland fan who lives in Whittier up in suburban LA County.

From Mickey & Friends in a car or 1313 Harbor Blvd. via bus to Mission Viejo High School (23 mile trip) requires:
Driving Private Car = 30 Minutes
OCTA Bus = 1 Hour, 42 Minutes (two bus transfers)


From Mickey & Friends in a car or 1313 Harbor Blvd. via bus to Whittier High School (19 mile trip) requires
Driving Private Car = 28 Minutes
OCTA & Metro Bus = 2 Hours, 2 Minutes (four bus transfers)


There's something to be said for the convenience, speed and efficiency with which you can move around SoCal in a private car, compared to taking buses or trains.

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Sailor310

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Thinking about how quickly I can get from Main Street USA to my front door via Uber (30 minutes or less, including the walk out to Harbor Blvd.) I just checked several transit options via Google Maps right now at 5:50PM on a Monday, peak rush hour. One envisioning a Disneyland fan from Mission Viejo down in southern OC, and one for a Disneyland fan who lives in Whittier up in suburban LA County.

From Mickey & Friends in a car or 1313 Harbor Blvd. via bus to Mission Viejo High School (23 mile trip) requires:
Driving Private Car = 30 Minutes
OCTA Bus = 1 Hour, 42 Minutes (two bus transfers)


From Mickey & Friends in a car or 1313 Harbor Blvd. via bus to Whittier High School (19 mile trip) requires
Driving Private Car = 28 Minutes
OCTA & Metro Bus = 2 Hours, 2 Minutes (four bus transfers)


There's something to be said for the convenience, speed and efficiency with which you can move around SoCal in a private car, compared to taking buses or trains.

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Yep. I often compare using public transportation with driving, trying to be a good world citizen. It's always much, much shorter to drive one's self.
 

TP2000

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Yep. I often compare using public transportation with driving, trying to be a good world citizen. It's always much, much shorter to drive one's self.

And when it involves the SoCal commuter train system like Metrolink, it's dramatically cheaper for a family of four to drive their Camry to Disneyland than it is to take the train and a bus from a local transit center.

Pre-Covid, I took Amtrak's Coast Starlight deluxe sleeper train quite regularly up and down the West Coast. But I wasn't trying to be a good citizen, because I know I already am a good citizen. I was just trying to have some fun, see this beautiful country, and talk to fun people in the Lounge Car and in the Dining Car.

The Coast Starlight First Class Lounge Car with a glass of wine and a gaggle of random tourists from around the country chatting and watching the West Coast go by can be some of the best travel time of your life!

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DLR92

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California public transportation especially in LA is not reliable. Should have invested in the infrastructure eons ago! Cause I would prefer to be like Seoul, Paris, Tokyo; to maneuver around out around the cities.
 

Disstevefan1

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Gas in California is now averaging $5.88 per gallon for 87 octane regular. This is the highest gas price in the nation, even higher than Hawaii. As a point of reference, even after the price hikes of the last three or four months, gas in Texas is currently averaging $3.85 per gallon.

At what point does the sky high (and rising) price of gas in California impact Disneyland's business model? A large portion of Disneyland customers drive to the park for the day from throughout SoCal, or drive to SoCal from throughout the Western States. Or, they fly to John Wayne, with airline prices also rising by the day with the rising cost of jet fuel.


Has anyone postponed or cancelled a trip to Disneyland as a Magic Key holder due to gas at nearly 6 bucks a gallon? Has anyone rethought spring or summer vacation plans due to high gas or plane ticket prices?

At the very least, we won't be seeing Disneyland turn off half the lights on buildings like they had to do in the 1970's....
The folks in California are used to the high gas prices so they just absorb the additional cost from getting from point A to point B.
Historically I am guessing the prices for everything at DLR rose at a higher rate than gasoline, and folks keep showing up.
 

TP2000

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California public transportation especially in LA is not reliable. Should have invested in the infrastructure eons ago! Cause I would prefer to be like Seoul, Paris, Tokyo; to maneuver around out around the cities.

I love Tokyo's metro system! But then, those cities have dense, urban cores with lots of people living there. In the USA, outside of a handful of Northeast big cities, most people live in the suburbs and traditionally commute in to central office cores. Although that model is changing quickly in the age of Zoom and working from home in pajamas.

Here's the current Weekday Rush Hour timetable comparison for car vs. bus from Disneyland to Whittier High School. Whittier High is only 19 miles from Disneyland, and there's a wreck on the 5 north of the 91 and the 605 San Gabriel Freeway is notoriously bad this time of day. But the buses tend to stay off freeways and on surface streets in random crazy routes, as you can see on the map below...

Disneyland to Whittier High School - 19 Miles at 5:12 PM weekday
Car = 36 Minutes
Bus = 2 Hours and 24 Minutes (two to three transfers involved)

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TP2000

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Wouldn't it JUST be something if Disney had a movie about the public transportation in LA and only the cartoon characters could figure out the mystery........

It just gets so weird after Union Station. I used to take Amtrak up to LA a few times per year, usually to attend exhibits at LACMA or other museums on Wilshire. I remember going back to LA three different times for that incredible Pacific Standard Time rotating exhibition they held in the early 2010's!

But in the mid 2010's it started getting so sketchy on the Red Line past Pershing Square. I just stopped feeling safe, and/or smelling things I didn't want to smell. I was forced to drive for a few years, until I simply stopped going to LA by 2019. Then Covid hit, and well, it's all over for me.

Ocassionally I'll check the exhibit schedule at LACMA or The Getty, just to see. But so far, nothing looks good enough to put myself through that human misery again. And that's just sad to see what happened to a once-great American city. Will it ever recover? Will it ever improve? I don't think I can wait that long. :(
 

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