Yeah, when the car was in the loading area it would charge automatically, so they never died. And this was built 15 years ago, so maybe there’s an even cheaper/better way to do it now. Considering the amount they’d save on gas and wages, there’s really no good reason they haven’t done it yet, unless they’ve had plans to get rid of the ride.
but something about smelling gasoline next to matterhorn and space mountain, just isn't attractive.
Sure but electricity is around half the price of gas. It varies depending on where you live but it’s always less. It’s pretty well-known that electric cars save money.
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That was a nice long fact salad but I’m not sure what your point is, do you think gasoline-powered cars are the future? Oil accessibility is decreasing and electricity production is gradually increasing to meet demand. People who switch to electric save money over the long run and that’s not changing in the foreseeable future. Not everyone is switching tomorrow, that rarely happens in any aspect of life.Yes, because electric cars are still only a tiny slice of the automotive fleet, even in California.
California has 17.3 Million gas powered cars currently registered for use. 97.5% of cars.
California has 426,000 electric cars currently registered for use. 2.5% of cars.
And California has the most electric cars by a landslide compared to the other 49 states. Over 40% of the electric cars in America are registered in California. In next door Oregon, less than 1% of the currently registered cars currently are electric. In Missouri, less than 0.1% of the currently registered cars are electric.
In America as of 2021, less than 1% of the nation's 280 Million registered cars on the road are electric. Without California, that number would be less than 0.5%
If you were to force tens of millions more electric cars to be charged on America's electric grid, instead of getting their motive power from gasoline or diesel, you would need to massively increase the amount of electricity generation in this country. California alone would need to build dozens of new natural gas power plants, immediately.
A small Tesla Model 3 takes about 50 Kilowatts to charge up (the smallest and lowest charge needed for any Tesla. A Model X requires 100 Kilowatts). But let's just pretend battery technology grows by leaps and bounds almost immediately, and every new electric car only needs 50 Kilowatts to charge up for a week of family use, or 300 miles of use per week. A very optimistic scenario is that each electric car requires 3 Megawatts of electricity per year, for 15,000 miles driven per year. For every 100,000 additional electric cars sold in California, you would need an extra 5,700 Megawatts of electricity per week, or roughly 800 Megawatts per day. And yet last fall when the sun set earlier in the day, California was short by thousands of Megawatts per day and desperately imported electricity from the coal and gas fired plants in Utah and Arizona.
Governor Newsom approved the emergency construction of five new natural gas plants last year. But that only added 150 Megawatts to the grid. Where does the additional 5,500 Megawatts come from for every 100,000 new electric cars needing a weekly charge? And how much higher will electricity be priced at that increased usage?
Batteries don't create electricity, they only store it. You have to create electricity, lots of it, from somewhere to power an electric car's battery. Tesla's don't run on butterfly wings, they run on fossil fuel powered electric grids.
How Much Electricity Does it Take to Charge a Tesla? | Optiwatt
Electric vehicle owners can save around $632 per year by charging their electric vehicle compared to paying at the pump.
The point is that only a small sliver of a fraction of Americans drive electric cars. If you were to expand that pool of drivers even by just 10% in the next few years and require thousands of extra Megawatts, electricity will become dramatically more expensive.
I think in 20 or 30 years you could realistically get the American car fleet up to at least 25% electrics. Maybe a bit more. But we will need to use gasoline for cars, and fossil fuels for electricity generation for many decades to come.
I get it. For wealthy people who can afford a Tesla and a solar panel roof in the Sunbelt, it's cheaper than $6 per gallon gas. I have a few neighbors who own Teslas. But most Americans aren't wealthy enough to buy a $50,000 to $100,000 car. They can only afford a $25,000 Corolla, or a $10,000 used Taurus.
Walking to Disneyland? Taking the bus to Disneyland? No, that sound miserable and very dangerous. And I'm only 7 miles away. I can't imagine doing that if you live in LA or Riverside or Mission Viejo. Who wants to stand here among these folks and wait for an hour long bus ride home after the fireworks and a long day at Disneyland?
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I do take Amtrak regularly (pre-Covid). A few of the sleeping car porters got to know me by name on the Coast Starlight, but then Covid hit and the downtown areas of Seattle and Portland became emptied out warzones and I no longer travel there. I may never take the Coast Starlight again past Paso Robles. Although, I am considering a Brightline trip next year to see how badly Epcot has been destroyed. I have actually never been to Miami Beach! I need to see that before I kick the bucket, and Brightline seems the way to go.
But the city bus to Disneyland? You couldn't pay me to stand there among these passed out zombies on Katella!
Careful, if you keep doing this, these passed out zombies will eat your obviously superior brainz. Dont you know they’re just intrinsically terrible people who frequently harm others?
I'm just still trying to process you haven't been to Miami Beach.The point is that only a small sliver of a fraction of Americans drive electric cars. If you were to expand that pool of drivers even by just 10% in the next few years and require thousands of extra Megawatts, electricity will become dramatically more expensive.
I think in 20 or 30 years you could realistically get the American car fleet up to at least 25% electrics. Maybe a bit more. But we will need to use gasoline for cars, and fossil fuels for electricity generation for many decades to come.
I get it. For wealthy people who can afford a Tesla and a solar panel roof in the Sunbelt, it's cheaper than $6 per gallon gas. I have a few neighbors who own Teslas. But most Americans aren't wealthy enough to buy a $50,000 to $100,000 car. They can only afford a $25,000 Corolla, or a $10,000 used Taurus.
Walking to Disneyland? Taking the bus to Disneyland? No, that sounds miserable and very dangerous. And I'm only 7 miles away. I can't imagine doing that if you live in LA or Riverside or Mission Viejo. Who wants to stand here among these folks and wait for an hour long bus ride home after the fireworks and a long day at Disneyland?
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I do take Amtrak regularly (pre-Covid). A few of the sleeping car porters got to know me by name on the Coast Starlight, but then Covid hit and the downtown areas of Seattle and Portland became emptied out warzones and I no longer travel there. I may never take the Coast Starlight again past Paso Robles. Although, I am considering a Brightline trip next year to see how badly Epcot has been destroyed. I have actually never been to Miami Beach! I need to see that before I kick the bucket, and Brightline seems the way to go.
But the city bus to Disneyland? You couldn't pay me to stand there among these passed out zombies on Katella!
Out of curiosity, why do you do that? To save the $30 cost of parking at Disneyland?
If you're cheating TDA out of the 30 bucks, I think that's hilarious and congratulate you!
