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General Grizz

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Originally posted by Tramp


Woohoo....three cheers for teachers.....:sohappy:

...teachers are like candles...they allow themselves to be consumed so they can light the way for others....:kiss:

I'm glad we have teachers in the forum....it keeps me from making spelling 'misteaks.' :rolleyes:

Haha! Thanks, Tramp!
 

General Grizz

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Originally posted by grizzlyhall


Haha! Thanks, Tramp!

That ":kiss: " was a little too much, though! :hurl: !:lol:

I hope you enjoyed the pic! I had to after you got me right in the face...fixed my eyes though!
 

dopey

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as a longtime member who isn’t a premium member, i thought i’d weigh in with my thoughts on this subject.

steve has created a very enjoyable site here. he certainly put a lot of time and money into it. the increasing popularity of the site required him to pour more resources into it. he let everyone know that it was becoming a financial burden and many longstanding members offered to pitch in. steve, in turn, created special privileges for those members.

is that a problem? consider:

-- as others have pointed out, premium membership costs only $5 a month, or $60 a year, which makes it accessible for nearly anyone.

-- whether or not you think the premium members here are a clique, cliques – using the negative connotation – exist on other public sites, too.

-- you don’t need to be a premium member to talk about others behind their backs. you can do the same with pms and email.

-- the premium member lounge is merely an internet discussion board. there are millions of discussion boards on the internet. you can even start your own for free and be the master of your own domain.

so, logically, the premium member benefits shouldn’t bother anyone. but, on another level, it is problematic. it’s human nature for the masses to resent those who are perceived as the elite group within their social structure. this inevitably leads to conflict. though the barrier to entry in the wdwmagic premium members group is, indeed, low, it’s unusual because most internet discussion boards are free. there is an expectation of democracy (or at least a benevolent dictatorship). but the social dynamic at this site is different.

as i see it, the danger is that the premium members will hamper the growth of membership to this site by turning it into a more closed society. already, there have been a couple cases where premium members have ganged up to oust undesirable members. and i’m not merely referring to people like nwo who came here to purposely cause trouble. there have been a couple people who sincerely tried to fit in, but made the mistake of offending a premium member.

james might be another example. forget, for a moment, his awkward analogies to disney movies, the “click/clique” mistake and his mild insults (though his comment about fievel's girlfriend was inappropriate and he should apologize if he has any intention of sticking around). he made a statement that he saw premium membership as being cliquish. it was a valid observation. he didn’t start the thread. and he didn’t attack any individual or the group. but then several premium members said they felt insulted, which, apparently set james off and it went downhill from there.

personally, none of it matters to me. i just find it interesting. but if the premium members really want to see this site succeed as a disney fan site – and i would think they would, since they have an ownership stake in it – it might make sense to reexamine the need for additional privileges to those who pay for elite status. if anything, there needs to be more care in how other members are treated, especially new ones.
 

NowInc

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Dopey...long time no see! Good to have you back...

I agree with most of what you said..except we REALLY dont go talking about ANYONE behind their backs...I said that originally as a joke...

The "Premium" lounge is just a place where we post more "mature" topics (stronger language and more personal th ings)

For example..I only post my picture on the premium lounge...not that I dont like any non-paying members (I think everyone on here is GREAT)..I just feel id rather not have a "larger" group of people looking at me..

When I say "personal" topics,...I mean things that most of us wouldnt be comfortable talking about to anyone who "lurks" the board..but would have no problem talking about with a "full timer"

I really hope there is no confusion about this...NONE of us just randomly going talking about anyone on here...the only time we EVER mention a non-paying member in the premium member is if 1.) They us off or 2.) we think they are really cool.

So my advise to all of those who cant afford or just choose not to pay...please follow dopeys example and lighten up a tad..those of us who contribute are keeping the site alive...and we dont ask for ANYTHING in return...
 

dopey

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hey, now. happy new year.

i was only pointing out that there are a variety of ways for anybody here to talk behind others' backs.

i know most of the premium members and don't think for a second that they would hesitate to speak their minds directly to anyone who offended them.

thanks for warning me that your picture is posted in the premium members' lounge. now i know i won't be joining! :animwink: :) be glad, too. if i joined and posted my picture, all the other premium members would quit and run off to intercot.
 

NowInc

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Originally posted by dopey
hey, now. happy new year.

i was only pointing out that there are a variety of ways for anybody here to talk behind others' backs.

i know most of the premium members and don't think for a second that they would hesitate to speak their minds directly to anyone who offended them.

thanks for warning me that your picture is posted in the premium members' lounge. now i know i won't be joining! :animwink: :) be glad, too. if i joined and posted my picture, all the other premium members would quit and run off to intercot.

Happy new year dopey...

Yeah...I know what you were saying..but I just didnt want to give off the perception that we do that here.....

LoL...yeah..i made a whole thread in the premium members lounge about how ugly we all are...its quite funny...
 

Ariel

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Originally posted by NowInc


LoL...yeah..i made a whole thread in the premium members lounge about how ugly we all are...its quite funny...


:eek: I take offense to that!!

:animwink:
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by NowInc


LoL...sorry kiddo...you know you and the rest of the ladies are all EXEMPT from that comment...

Now, don't judge me till you've seen me in a nice pair of heels :p
 

Rooster

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Originally posted by DisneyFreak
Well said, as always, Dopey.


Oh that explains Dopey's comments . Its a Bear fan thing isnt it. :lookaroun :D

Hey fellas haven't heard from you two in a while. So do you think there will be a third match up?:D
 

dopey

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Originally posted by Rooster



Oh that explains Dopey's comments . Its a Bear fan thing isnt it. :lookaroun :D

Hey fellas haven't heard from you two in a while. So do you think there will be a third match up?:D

i didn't know common sense was exclusive to bears fans, rooster. but ok.

like most bears fans, i look forward to a rematch with the packers. it's hard for any one team in the nfl to beat another three times straight. but i'm not so sure the packers will beat the 49ers.

either way, i'm sure the bears beating the steelers will be a classic super bowl.

btw, did you see keith traylor's interception, rooster? it's feeling like 1985 all over again here in chicago. :sohappy:
 

General Grizz

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Originally posted by dopey


i didn't know common sense was exclusive to bears fans, rooster. but ok.

like most bears fans, i look forward to a rematch with the packers. it's hard for any one team in the nfl to beat another three times straight. but i'm not so sure the packers will beat the 49ers.

either way, i'm sure the bears beating the steelers will be a classic super bowl.

btw, did you see keith traylor's interception, rooster? it's feeling like 1985 all over again here in chicago. :sohappy:

Oh so THAT explains it. I thought it was COUNTRY bear fans...when "bears" was said, it wasn't capitalized...so I was threw off... :lol:
 

DisneyFreak

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Originally posted by NowInc


...the only time we EVER mention a non-paying member in the premium member is if 1.) They us off or 2.) we think they are really cool.


After thinking about this statement I have to ask the question, "Who else would you really talk about?"

I mean, as of late, there have been quite a few non-paying members that have been ing off the "Premium" members or vice-versa. Now, I don't know if it was because of the holidays and some people were just bummed or if it's a sign of things to come but the atmosphere on the public boards has been antagonistic recently. I'm not singling anyone out here or trying to start something, it's just been an observation of mine that I thought I needed to share.
 

mightyduck

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Well, Freak, funny you should say that.... because that's one of the threads in the lounge. The what the heck is happening here (to paraphrase) thread was brought up recently. I can't explain it.... Most of what's in there is personal stuff that people feel more comfortable expressing to the known quantity of premium members than that they'd be comfortable sharing with the world at large. Some people here are going through some tough issues personally, and as you know, Freak, we are quick to support each other here.

And Now isn't wearing any pants last time I was in there, either... :O ;)

Hope you are having a good day. :)
 

NowInc

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Originally posted by mightyduck


And Now isn't wearing any pants last time I was in there, either... :O ;)

I am still sitting pretty...I cant help it..its just so comfy in that "adult" lounge....
 
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