Predictions! Secret WDC Project — August 22 @ D23

Progress.City

Progress.City

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bartholomr4 said:
Wasn't the purchase of a bunch of orange groves in central Florida labeled a "Secret Project"? Gotta think there is an easter egg planted in the "Disney Secret Project" Label.... If there is a new park, its gotta be Anaheim.... To easy to expand the current foot prints of the Florida parks (or re-purpose greatly under utilized space i.e. Epcot)....
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This is the most logical... third Anaheim park or fifth Florida park, regardless, there must be a theme. Fox?
 
bartholomr4

bartholomr4

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Progress.City said:
This is the most logical... third Anaheim park or fifth Florida park, regardless, there must be a theme. Fox?
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I think the conversation would be an overview of how it would affect Anaheim... i.e. buying the Angel's stadium, how traffic would flow, the agreement with the political figures in the City, a big splash event to bury the hatchet, re "tax break cancellation and hotel construction cancellation"..... The planning would have to be comprehensive and fully baked, or Disney and Anaheim would risk backlash.... needs to address the cast member impacts, the local business impacts, tax receipts to the city, what would be done with the tax revenue by the gov't, etc, with council approval..... On Saturday they could then dive into what would be in the park, but there are a lot of theme's / characters who need a home in the California parks which don't have one today....

I don't think its a 5th gate in FL.... To much opportunity in the existing parks, and cheaper to expand their footprints.....
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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I would love for the announcement to be a fifth park at Walt Disney World. I just don't think that is likely. I think it's far more likely that this announcement has nothing what-so-ever to do with the parks and is related to Disney's media empire.
 
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Bermination

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Can't see Universal giving up rights to Marvel, if anything, look for them to announce further use of the Marvel properties in the future. You could build a ton of excitement with an Avengers/X-Men/Iron Man expansion at one of the Uni parks.

The Secret project, my guess is a new interactive Resort for Anaheim... we shall see.
 
Bairstow

Bairstow

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If we're just wildly speculating here, what about that old concept of building a floating, traveling theme park on an oil tanker and taking it to markets that will never have a permanent Disney park?

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Bairstow

Bairstow

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bartholomr4 said:
Don't get me wrong here but isn't that Disney Cruise lines?
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Not at all. The idea is that the vessel would contain a small theme park including various rides/shops/shows and remain docked at a particular place for a couple months before relocating. Because people would just be paying for a one day experience it would serve a completely different market niche than the cruise lines.
 
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doctornick

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UNCgolf said:
I don't know why Universal would do this anyways. Their Spider-Man ride is considered one of the best at Universal (if not one of the better attractions at any park worldwide); why would they want to give that up and have to tear it down? Plus they'd have to retheme everything in the Marvel area, which would be a large expense. It would also allow Disney to start building Marvel properties at WDW, which would probably pull guests away from Universal and to WDW. I don't think IP like Alien and Predator are valuable enough for Universal to make that kind of swap; it just doesn't seem like it would make business sense to me.

Of course, I hope this never happens for selfish reasons -- although I enjoy the MCU, I don't really care about any Marvel rides, and I'm terrified what Disney would do if they had free rein to start shoving Marvel characters into every corner of the parks.
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Regarding the all too commonly discussed Uni Marvel contract....

I think if there were ever a deal between Disney and Universal, that it would be a sharing of the properties. IOW, Uni would probably be allowed to continue to use the Marvel heroes as they currently do, but Disney would be allowed to use the Marvel name in theme parks and use all (or at least more) characters in WDW.

Any deal that starts with the premise of Uni having to give up the rights entirely and re-theme all of MSHI seems like a complete non starter to me as the cost and time for doing so would eat up so much money that it wouldn't be worth Disney paying so much. We'd be talking billions of dollars for Disney to pay out, which would not make any sense.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the contact will every change, but if it does, it would be with Disney getting additional rights, not Uni giving up what they have.
 
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seascape

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Bermination said:
Can't see Universal giving up rights to Marvel, if anything, look for them to announce further use of the Marvel properties in the future. You could build a ton of excitement with an Avengers/X-Men/Iron Man expansion at one of the Uni parks.

The Secret project, my guess is a new interactive Resort for Anaheim... we shall see.
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Universal can't build any Marvel ride or attention in any park except IOA. That is it. The contract limits Universal to one and only one park. Yes, I know for now they have rights in Japan but those end in less than 10 years so nothing could be built in that time and make any money.
 
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Bermination

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I didn't realize they had to keep it all in IOA, but still doesn't stop them from expanding that park and building a whole new Marvel experience. They might be saving that card for when Disney really does announce a fifth gate :)
 
bartholomr4

bartholomr4

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Bermination said:
I didn't realize they had to keep it all in IOA, but still doesn't stop them from expanding that park and building a whole new Marvel experience. They might be saving that card for when Disney really does announce a fifth gate :)
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Ya.... Me thinks no.... Disney (Marvel) has some approval rights and Brian Roberts is so cheap, I doubt he could stomach paying Disney any more $$$.... Also they just announced the Epic Universe and they have $100 million in debt.... I think they will be spending on the new park for the next 10 years at least....
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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Bairstow said:
If we're just wildly speculating here, what about that old concept of building a floating, traveling theme park on an oil tanker and taking it to markets that will never have a permanent Disney park?

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I always thought that they could do that for their cruise ships. Imagine having a floating park with restaurants and shows. This could be a part of cruise line itineraries. It could support multiple ships at once.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Ravenclaw78 said:
After the Shanghai debacle? I'm no insider, but the chances of Iger green-lighting another international theme park are about as likely as Ellen's Energy Adventure being rebuilt.
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He’s considering another park in China...

Iger considers Shanghai one of his successes (which it is). The road was bumpy, but the final product has been successful for them.

Eisner never successfully launched an international park... those were actual debacles (discluding TDS)... and risk averse Iger still gave it another shot.
 
eddie104

eddie104

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BrianLo said:
He’s considering another park in China...

Iger considers Shanghai one of his successes (which it is). The road was bumpy, but the final product has been successful for them.

Eisner never successfully launched an international park... those were actual debacles (discluding TDS)... and risk averse Iger still gave it another shot.
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Yea I was about to say didn't Shanghai have record attendance ?
 

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