Poll: Club 33 -- are you in?

[Kamikaze]

Based on what I've read, Disney's target is the Golden Oaks people. I also believe they are planning on building more of these communities and they need an exclusive place for these people to congregate away from the riff raff.

I don't know where you read that, but it doesn't even begin to make sense. There are less than 300 homes in Golden Oak. That isnt anywhere near enough to fill something like Club 33.

 

[RustySpork]

I don't know where you read that, but it doesn't even begin to make sense. There are less than 300 homes in Golden Oak. That isnt anywhere near enough to fill something like Club 33.

Windermere is just around the corner.

 

[Kamikaze]

Windermere is just around the corner.

So what? You need a lot more. Not just 'some'. With four locations, they would want probably 1500-2000 members.

 

[21stamps]

So what? You need a lot more. Not just 'some'. With four locations, they would want probably 1500-2000 members.

I guess I just look at this differently than a few others here. My "assumption" is that either upper class, not upper middle class.. or a very small percentage of people who may be upper middle class and exclusively travel to Disney, are the people who will take advantage of this.
I could be totally wrong on that. But having boating as a hobby, belonging to a country club, or taking $10k Disney vacations, doesn't mean that the same person will jump on Club 33... in my opinion.

But mainly, I'm just surprised that no one has screamed "Cash Grab!!!" Pleasantly surprised at that

 

[RustySpork]

So what? You need a lot more. Not just 'some'. With four locations, they would want probably 1500-2000 members.

You're right, nobody else in America or the world would buy in because they'd have to fly here and stuff.

 

[Kamikaze]

You're right, nobody else in America or the world would buy in because they'd have to fly here and stuff.

And thats why I originally said that the price would be lower and with many more members. Then this train started of 'theres enough people in Golden Oak to open it just for them!'. You're now talking about a completely different scenario.

 

[The Mom]

I guess I just look at this differently than a few others here. My "assumption" is that either upper class, not upper middle class.. or a very small percentage of people who may be upper middle class and exclusively travel to Disney, are the people who will take advantage of this.
I could be totally wrong on that. But having boating as a hobby, belonging to a country club, or taking $10k Disney vacations, doesn't mean that the same person will jump on Club 33... in my opinion.

But mainly, I'm just surprised that no one has screamed "Cash Grab!!!" Pleasantly surprised at that

Although there may be people that would do all of those things together, posters are just pointing out that there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people spending this kind of money on hobbies already, and they aren't all 1%ers. So instead of buying a new boat this year, or car, or taking a European vacation, they might decide to spend their spare time for the next couple of decades going to WDW instead. Just as some chose to buy DVC. I remember when it started, and the same arguments were raised. People were saying that there wouldn't be enough people with both the money and the interest in purchasing them.

 

[Laketravis]

And thats why I originally said that the price would be lower and with many more members. Then this train started of 'theres enough people in Golden Oak to open it just for them!'. You're now talking about a completely different scenario.

I don't think anyone said Disney was going to open this "just for them". They said they thought Disney targeted Golden Oaks. That doesn't mean it's the only demographic they plan on marketing it to and they can have multiple targets.

 

[RustySpork]

And thats why I originally said that the price would be lower and with many more members. Then this train started of 'theres enough people in Golden Oak to open it just for them!'. You're now talking about a completely different scenario.

Just because there may be one primary target, that doesn't mean there aren't any other targets.

 

[21stamps]

Although there may be people that would do all of those things together, posters are just pointing out that there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people spending this kind of money on hobbies already, and they aren't all 1%ers. So instead of buying a new boat this year, or car, or taking a European vacation, they might decide to spend their spare time for the next couple of decades going to WDW instead. Just as some chose to buy DVC. I remember when it started, and the same arguments were raised. People were saying that there wouldn't be enough people with both the money and the interest in purchasing them.

I don't disagree with all of that. I think the super fans would choose it over other vacations etc. Nothing wrong with that.
I definitely think there will be enough people for Club 33 to sell. I just think it will be a very small percentage of annual guests.

 

[contrariwise]

It is an add on and doesn't impact a guests trip BUUUT it does continue the perception to many that Disney is offering another thing that is outside of the average little guys ability to afford, and therefore to enjoy their trip to the level that others can.

I can see that. That's not been my particular beef with the offerings, but I have heard that complaint and I do get how this could further that. It just seems like a different beast to me, with Club 33 having been around so long. And it's not rubbed in anyone's face ...

 

[larryz]

My issue was the words "How can a Single Mother afford vacations?" And then references of single parents eating Raman Noodles or Canned Ravioli.

For the record, I am not a single mother, and I eat both raman noodles AND canned ravioli. And I like them!

 

[contrariwise]

For the record, I am not a single mother, and I eat both raman noodles AND canned ravioli. And I like them!

I like ramen too.

 

[RustySpork]

For the record, I am not a single mother, and I eat both raman noodles AND canned ravioli. And I like them!

Domu has the best Ramen around here.

Just sayin.

 

[Since1976]

It is my lifelong goal to go to Club 33 as someone's arm candy.

My wife won't mind.

 

[njDizFan]

• 4 Premier Annual Passes (valid at both Disneyland and Walt Disney World)

• 50 Park Hopper tickets per year for friends and family

• 5 VIP Tours per year

• Ability to reserve meals at Club 33

• Access to 1901 lounge in DCA

• Access to Club 33 Member Services, which makes all reservations/arrangements: hotel, restaurant, VIP Fantasmic! viewing, VIP seating for World of Color, etc.

• Automatic upgrade at all three Disneyland Resort hotels & access to Concierge Lounge

• Free valet parking at Grand Californian

• 6 Instant Fastpasses per visit

• Annual renewal gift

This is a list I brought over from the other thread by @MichWolv. If this is accurate these comps are equal to 10K a year as it is. Just throw in your intro fee.

I just never had the feeling that the type of people with this money were really avid Disney fans. Maybe it's just my experience here in NJ. I work in a very affluent area and most of the people with money are vacationing on the Cape,OBX or going to Europe. The target audience for NJ Disney vacationers seems like the top 20%, those with family income around 125-150K range.

 

[Bandini]

I don't know where you read that, but it doesn't even begin to make sense. There are less than 300 homes in Golden Oak. That isnt anywhere near enough to fill something like Club 33.

I also included the fact that Disney is planning on building more of these upscale communities. Golden Oak is a hit, so they will keep on building more.

 

[Kamikaze]

Just because there may be one primary target, that doesn't mean there aren't any other targets.

I don't think anyone said Disney was going to open this "just for them". They said they thought Disney targeted Golden Oaks. That doesn't mean it's the only demographic they plan on marketing it to and they can have multiple targets.

There isn't the type of big money like there is in Orange County California. There is some, yes, but its nowhere on the level of OC. Which is why they have no issue selling out of Club 33 at $25k with $10k a year. But the locals in Orlando, by and large, don't have that kind of income. Those traveling to WDW would not be attending on a frequent basis like DL locals can. Thus, they are less likely to spend $25k + $10k extra for something they can't use all the time. Which, again, is why I said originally that it will be cheaper with many more members than DL.

 

[Laketravis]

There isn't the type of big money like there is in Orange County California. There is some, yes, but its nowhere on the level of OC. Which is why they have no issue selling out of Club 33 at $25k with $10k a year. But the locals in Orlando, by and large, don't have that kind of income. Those traveling to WDW would not be attending on a frequent basis like DL locals can. Thus, they are less likely to spend $25k + $10k extra for something they can't use all the time. Which, again, is why I said originally that it will be cheaper with many more members than DL.

I don't think anyone is disputing that. I was only pointing out that no one said Disney was only going to market this to Golden Oak.

 

[Kamikaze]

I don't think anyone is disputing that. I was only pointing out that no one said Disney was only going to market this to Golden Oak.

They don't 'market' Club 33 at all. Thats kind of the point.