POC movie brig.................sinks!

Tonka's Skipper

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Oh. Cool. Learned something.

Did I read that right? The boat buckled in choppy water & sank? It buckled? Would that be like in half like folded? The visual it conjurs is pretty wow!


Hi sweetpee,

I believe this movie will be #5.

and yes that is just what it means, buckled, fold in on herself and at some point broke in two.

She must have been in need of some major repairs and/or was in some heavy seas.

AKK
 

5thGenTexan

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I know boats float. That is kinda the extent of my seafaring knowledge. :)

Seriously though, were they kinds of ships ever known for thier reliability. All manner of shipwrecks around the world in pirate tales. Were the ships just not up to the task of what they were asked? Did pirates hold the view that thier ships were expendable and ditched em if circumstances called for that. Much supposition that Edward Teach ran Queen Anne's Revenge aground on purpose.

In the case of this ship and maybe even the Bounty. Although the Bounty was being asked to do something in extreme conditions... Are there enough qualified people that know how to handle these ships in all possible conditions?

My question is... are there enough people that know what they are doing to sail these ships and if so do the ships themselves have any issues of reliability that is just a nature of the design?
 

Tonka's Skipper

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Over the centuries, sailing ships were built to the state of the art, wooden and then later iron and steel hulled. The sail arrangements and materials improved with the times. They were actually pretty safe and sturdy vessels and if well maintained and crewed they continued so.

Could they handle the real extremes in seas and storm, hurricanes etc....yes sometimes, again depending on the skill of the crews and the condition of the vessels.

As to todays sailing ships, yes there are expert sail Masters and crews out there. The ships if properly inspected and maintained, again they are safe as possible.

I do not know much about the Unicorn, but to have a vessel buckle, she has to have had issues in condition, which maybe of course why they were heading for repairs.

The MGM *Bounty*, was of course in all the recent Bounty movies and others as well. She was a tourist attraction and always running short on maintenance and the owners did not keep her in a good condition.

She sailed from Charleston to avoid Sandy and the Master miss calculated the Storm trac and ended up in the middle of the storm, she started taking on water ad capsized and sink.

There was about 15 men and woman onboard , 2 died (one was the Master). The USCG did thier usually amazing brave and wonderful job of saving the rest.

The owner is facing criminal charges at this time.


AKK
 

Cesar R M

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Hmm, It said it was on route for repairs; so, maybe it already had heavy damage and simple rough seas made the ship break and sink.

Like most movie ships. I'm pretty sure these ships endure hardships way stronger-constant than normal ships. (due of special effects, pyrotechnics, explosions..etc..)
 
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Tonka's Skipper

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I agree Cesar, think she had some serious structural issues going on and all it took was a bit of rough weather and she buckled on herself.

I wonder how deep she is and if the local government will require her to be salvaged/removed. That can be very expensive and the Costa Concordia proved.

AKK
 

Cesar R M

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I agree Cesar, think she had some serious structural issues going on and all it took was a bit of rough weather and she buckled on herself.

I wonder how deep she is and if the local government will require her to be salvaged/removed. That can be very expensive and the Costa Concordia proved.

AKK
they could just simple let it stay there as an artificial reef.
 

sweetpee_1993

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they could just simple let it stay there as an artificial reef.
If it's deep enough and not in a channel. Also, boats used as reefs have to be stripped of most everything inside them so there'd still be a lot of work to do to retrieve all the stuff still inside the ship. And drain all the fuel, oil, etc. Still a ton of work. It's a great idea, tho, with the masts, rigging, and all. It'd be interesting to dive on for sure.
 

Tonka's Skipper

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Hi Sweet pee

As a former diver, its not a good idea to go messing around in all that rigging, masts and sails, way to easy to get tangled up in.

However you are right in that a lot would need to be done on her to be a dive reef or even left where she is, removal of fuel, one of the biggest.

I do wonder if they will try to recover her or even raise the hulk, strip it for a reef and then sink her in the best place and depth for sport diving.

AKK
 

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