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Pleasure Island's Last night
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tigger_sky
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How judgmental, and I could not disagree with you more. WDW is filled with family entertainment and that is a good thing because that is what Disney is all about. It was however a great thing to have one little place in all of WDW where you could be around adults only. When PI opened it was a wonderful place to be immersed in Disney Magic but without all the kids. You could dance, laugh, and play with or without that bottle in the hand and not worry about being ran over by one of the many overpopulated strollers running around the world. Before PI was opened to "families" it was a truly unique Disney experience for those 21 and over, families of different types. One must remember that not all families include children. It was opening the gates to children that killed the clubs and was the beginning of the end for one a Disney's Magical experiences.
and it's not just during free dining that their full - we were waiting to be seated at sci-fi for lunch and people were being told no walk-ups. i welcome more restaurants to choose from. shopping, in my opinion, we already have enough of.
I_heart_Tigger
Well-Known Member
I partially agree about the shopping...there are definately enough stores however I have always been disappointed in the variety.
I suppose it's convenient to think..."well I might not get that Tinkerbell T-Shirt today but I know they'll have the same one when I go to Dowtown Disney, DHS, MK, Epcot, AK and pretty much every resort"
But I wish the shopping was themed more to parks, attractions, lands, resorts etc so i don't have to see the exact same things in EVERY store
fizzle75
New Member
OK, I've gotta ask...exactly what about PI immersed you in "Disney Magic" and how was it a unique "Disney" experience? The only "unique" aspect of PI seemed to be the AC and nothing about it screamed "Disney Magic".:shrug:
Keep in mind that I, like sbkline, am on of those poor ignorant sheltered folk who don't frequent clubs so I am basing my observations solely on what I have read on these boards...I have never been to a club at PI or a club in general so I have no point of reference, but it sounds to me like the clubs at PI were no different than any other club you could frequent across the nation so what about them made them "uniquely Disney"? The AC definitely sounded unique and different but was it truly an immersive "Disney" experience?
Maerj
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I will answer this one... YES, it really was truly an immersive Disney experience. It was a lot of fun and you really missed out by not doing it, as did everyone else who didn't get to experience this unique attraction.
The rest of the clubs we mostly just the same as you could go to any place else, but the AC was really a Disney club. There was music and comedy, there was a story and there was a lot of really talented CMs there. It was a Disney experience made with adults in mind, although I *think* you could take kids in. Its really a shame they are closing it. They should keep it and offer other unique Disney experiences for night life in DTD. I always thought that a Magician's Club would be cool addition.
Are there other places that have a New Year's Eve celebration every night?
tigger_sky
New Member
I have been all over the country and overseas and I’ve never found anything like PI in its prime. It was a Disney experience and like everything Disney there was a story behind it. The island's nightclubs were once home to a shipping company owned by adventurous businessman Merriweather Pleasure. A great storm destroyed the business and Mr. Pleasure disappeared with the warehouses remaining behind. Years later, these warehouses were refurbished and converted into nightclubs.
This was reflected most certainly in the Adventurer’s Club and the Comedy Warehouse. But it was more than that. When you walked across the bridge onto Pleasure Island it was everything it’s name said. There was a level of high energy and entertainment and guest service of the Disney quality. The clubs were more than just clubs, they were Disney Clubs and each told a story and was themed to every detail as only Disney could do. The live entertainment, street carnival atmosphere, and nightly New Year’s Eve celebration were unique. You could choose to dance, laugh, and party (with alcohol or without) in a safe, fun, comfortable, child-free, Disney environment. If you never got to experience it when 8trax had a light up floor and Pac-Man games upstairs, when fireworks and confetti filled the Midnight air, and when there were dancers at Mannequins…then I’m sorry you missed out. Only Disney could bring this all together the way they did it and I have missed it since they started killing it and I will miss it when it is all gone.
WDWFigment
Well-Known Member
I find it disappointing that Disney has a height requirement on certain attractions. They obviously know that the whole family cannot partake in said attractions, so why the requirement?! It also upsets me that three of the Walt Disney World theme parks serve alcohol. Although I've never been to Pleasure Island, I totally know that everyone who goes there gets sloshed. No one who goes to the parks does this, so that's a non-issue. :lookaroun
Pardon my sarcasm--but what's the difference between PI and Epcot, AK, and DHS? The operating hours? So will we be seeing this same anti-alcohol discussion once the "late night" 5th gate opens? I'm sure people have too much to drink on a daily basis at these theme parks. Maybe some folks here should, now having this information, rethink their vacations. As others have pointed out, very few people are sloshed at PI. Even so, these people are not you (unless you choose to be among them), and really aren't going to impact your evening.
Pardon my sarcasm--but what's the difference between PI and Epcot, AK, and DHS? The operating hours? So will we be seeing this same anti-alcohol discussion once the "late night" 5th gate opens? I'm sure people have too much to drink on a daily basis at these theme parks. Maybe some folks here should, now having this information, rethink their vacations. As others have pointed out, very few people are sloshed at PI. Even so, these people are not you (unless you choose to be among them), and really aren't going to impact your evening.
polarboi
Member
Thank you! This is exactly what I was thinking.
I find it sad that sbkline and a few others seem to assume that PI was all about drinking. Not so. I don't drink, yet I always found PI to be a magical place, something truly Disney in its attention to detail and yet not kid-oriented. I like to dance, laugh, and interact with other adults in a highly-themed environment, and that's what PI was for me. I know of no other place like it in the world.
-p.b.
DivineMadness7
New Member
I don't necessarily understand people who never consume alcohol, but it doesn't mean that I think they are wrong. I would never force them to drink, so why do some of these people want to force me to NOT drink? Then again, you see a lot of this in society...people trying to keep others from doing things that don't affect them at all. But that's a discussion I won't touch with a 50 foot pole...
In response to the "family" comment...my "family" consists of my parents (in their 50s), myself (25) and my brother (18.) So in a few years when he turns 21, we may have gone to PI together. Isn't that family entertainment? No one is asking for all of property to cater to adults, but for the grown ups who travel to WDW every year as a family vacation, it is nice to have one place on property where you don't have to worry about being hit in the ankles with a stroller...:lol: (laughing face because it is just a joke...) I have no interest in Vegas and will most likely never go there, but that doesn't mean I judge people who enjoy that sort of thing.
In response to "why can't you just go to the bar scene somewhere else" it isn't the same. And clearly the people saying this have not been to any or many bars. As someone in my 20s, there are few bars I feel comfortable going to. I felt comfortable going to PI with friends and having a different sort of experience somewhere like the AC. We felt safe going there. PI was getting a reputation in the past year for not being so safe, but once the gates were opened up, they were pretty much asking for it.
It was more about entertainment than the alcohol. Sure, the alcohol helped, but we didn't go there specifically for it. Maybe some people do, but remember that those people like alcohol as much as you hate it. Heck, the huge mark-up we're paying for our alcohol is possibly funding new rides for you to enjoy! :lol: For something that is LEGAL it sure gets a lot of people's panties in a knot. I'm not trying to tell your kid that he can't go on Dumbo, so why do you try to keep me from my adult, LEGAL beverage? Don't paint everyone with the same brush, saying everyone wants to get "sloshed." That sort of narrow mindedness in the real world is exactly what makes me enjoy my escape to Disney World! Mini-golf may be fine for you, but like everything else in life, to each is own. I won't take away your putter if you don't touch my Guinness.
In response to the "family" comment...my "family" consists of my parents (in their 50s), myself (25) and my brother (18.) So in a few years when he turns 21, we may have gone to PI together. Isn't that family entertainment? No one is asking for all of property to cater to adults, but for the grown ups who travel to WDW every year as a family vacation, it is nice to have one place on property where you don't have to worry about being hit in the ankles with a stroller...:lol: (laughing face because it is just a joke...) I have no interest in Vegas and will most likely never go there, but that doesn't mean I judge people who enjoy that sort of thing.
In response to "why can't you just go to the bar scene somewhere else" it isn't the same. And clearly the people saying this have not been to any or many bars. As someone in my 20s, there are few bars I feel comfortable going to. I felt comfortable going to PI with friends and having a different sort of experience somewhere like the AC. We felt safe going there. PI was getting a reputation in the past year for not being so safe, but once the gates were opened up, they were pretty much asking for it.
It was more about entertainment than the alcohol. Sure, the alcohol helped, but we didn't go there specifically for it. Maybe some people do, but remember that those people like alcohol as much as you hate it. Heck, the huge mark-up we're paying for our alcohol is possibly funding new rides for you to enjoy! :lol: For something that is LEGAL it sure gets a lot of people's panties in a knot. I'm not trying to tell your kid that he can't go on Dumbo, so why do you try to keep me from my adult, LEGAL beverage? Don't paint everyone with the same brush, saying everyone wants to get "sloshed." That sort of narrow mindedness in the real world is exactly what makes me enjoy my escape to Disney World! Mini-golf may be fine for you, but like everything else in life, to each is own. I won't take away your putter if you don't touch my Guinness.
I'd love to go and see this, but this past week I came to the decision to cancel my trip on 3 reasons
A- It's going to be sad... and frankly, I don't see the point of paying to cross 1200 miles of water + hotel + car + ancillary costs to do something that will be funny for a few hours, but will go down as a downer when the dust has settled
B- Growing up in Orlando, I can honestly say that I'm sick of WDW... I would rather spend 9 hours on a plane and go to DLR than spend 3 hours and go to WDW
C- I can't stand half of the AC regulars (and I know they can't stand me)... so why should I go there and deal with them?
Plus, I'm certain that there will be videos all over youtube the next morning.
I'll spend the money I put aside for this trip and will go somewhere new.
A- It's going to be sad... and frankly, I don't see the point of paying to cross 1200 miles of water + hotel + car + ancillary costs to do something that will be funny for a few hours, but will go down as a downer when the dust has settled
B- Growing up in Orlando, I can honestly say that I'm sick of WDW... I would rather spend 9 hours on a plane and go to DLR than spend 3 hours and go to WDW
C- I can't stand half of the AC regulars (and I know they can't stand me)... so why should I go there and deal with them?
Plus, I'm certain that there will be videos all over youtube the next morning.
I'll spend the money I put aside for this trip and will go somewhere new.
There are reasons besides boozing it up to go out to clubs, I for one enjoy meeting people and listening to music, preferably live. About 1/2 the times I went to PI I didn't even have a single adult beverage, yet I still enjoyed myself and oddly wasn't even slightly offended at people who were drinking. The concept that Disney only does "family" entertainment is silly on its face, why would they have a division like Miramax with such family friendly fair as Kill Bill volumes 1 & 2 amongst others. I guess some how people managed to figure out the difference between 101 dalmatians (and yes that is the proper spelling of the breed) and Kill Bill even though they are both Disney products. There is another reason I don't like spending 100% of my time around other people's kids, when kids are around I feel a very strong requirement to be an exceptionally good example for them, which is work that I would just as soon not have 24x7 since I am not a baby sitter. As to the ludicrous statements about the downtown Orlando scene being the same I can only assume you have never been to either. Prior to PI opening the "hot spot" in Orlando for tourists was Church Street Station, which I visited many times. The crime was/is much higher, the prices generally were higher, it was much dirtier, there were none of Goofy's minions trying to keep people in order, and then there was the whole getting there issue. PI was clean, the service generally was good, the area was safe, and transportation was provided by Disney. When you go downtown, even if you do take the requisite actions and have a designated driver, a taxi, a limo or whatever you still have to deal the other hoards who are just drinking and driving like idiots. With PI the buses provided pretty good protection from others. If I want to go shopping, play mini-golf, catch a movie (G rated only I suppose) or eat at chain restaurant I can do any of that here at home so none of those activities are on my to do list when I am on vacation.
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danpam1024
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sknydave
Active Member
You're making too much sense. Please cease and desist immediately.
dmagickingdom
New Member
My Plan for PI
Okay, here's the resolution. Keep AC open the way it is. Keep CW open for adult's only and bring in local comedians or the occasional "C list" comedian for advance ticket sales. Although the improv was funny at CW, it was too routine if you frequent it often in my opinion. Then scrap the rest of PI and put in the 3rd party restaurants and shops as Disney currently plans. But in addition to shops and restaurants, think of something unique also such as a bowling alley for guests (not like the PBA like is going into WWS) or billiards where families and adults combined can go for entertainment. Maybe this could fit where Beach Club used to be?? That sounds like a great compromise and could keep Disney's plan intact as well as pleasing the guest. It's just an idea for any imagineers out there that may read this.
Okay, here's the resolution. Keep AC open the way it is. Keep CW open for adult's only and bring in local comedians or the occasional "C list" comedian for advance ticket sales. Although the improv was funny at CW, it was too routine if you frequent it often in my opinion. Then scrap the rest of PI and put in the 3rd party restaurants and shops as Disney currently plans. But in addition to shops and restaurants, think of something unique also such as a bowling alley for guests (not like the PBA like is going into WWS) or billiards where families and adults combined can go for entertainment. Maybe this could fit where Beach Club used to be?? That sounds like a great compromise and could keep Disney's plan intact as well as pleasing the guest. It's just an idea for any imagineers out there that may read this.
WDWFigment
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I don't know what you're referencing with the "business cards" bit, but on our recent trip we found some of the regulars to be really obnoxious. I won't even qualify this with a "no offense if anyone here is an obnoxious regular", because I actually intend offense (I don't intend offense to those regulars who regularly go to sit there and enjoy the show--there's no way of distinguishing you from an infrequent vacationer, anyway).
If you're one of the AC regulars who intentionally sticks out like a soar thumb, this is for you: I am not paying admission to hear some geek display his knowledge of how the show goes. Your knowledge of the show is thoroughly unimpressive. I am there to hear and see the actors, and there is a reason Disney is paying them, and not you.
I'm not talking about the typical audience interaction that's encouraged. I'm talking about unnecessary showboating, and an attempt to put the spotlight on them.
mkt, I would almost consider it a good thing that these folks don't like you.
dmagickingdom
New Member
hehehe...don't you hate these people...like the ones that openly quote the haunted mansion in the stretching room!