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Pin Trading Etiquette
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mouse_luv
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Yeah, because the more of you that buy the fake pins and give them to CM's then the more of them they are going to have on their lanyards and give to unsuspecting guests. So tell me how this is good for anyone who is serious about trading? Just don't get and trade fake pins. I can tell you that all CM's start out with the good authentic pins. Many of them know how to spot fake ones and destroy them, so they aren't trading out fake ones that those like you are giving them for a good one.
SAV
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I'm not trying to please "serious" pin traders, so I couldn't care less. And you can't guarantee that the one's I'm buying are fakes. You are just assuming that they are. I'm going by the description that says "authentic" pins.
And you would figure that "serious" pin traders wouldn't look to a CM lanyard anyways, so they wouldn't be effected.
back atcha.
And you would figure that "serious" pin traders wouldn't look to a CM lanyard anyways, so they wouldn't be effected.
back atcha.
mouse_luv
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I'm not trying to please "serious" pin traders, so I couldn't care less. And you can't guarantee that the one's I'm buying are fakes. You are just assuming that they are. I'm going by the description that says "authentic" pins.
And you would figure that "serious" pin traders wouldn't look to a CM lanyard anyways, so they wouldn't be effected.
What you don't seem to understand is the way that "serious" pin trading actually works. Yes, serious pin traders can identify "fake pins" and CM's are the main people to trade with. But why should you care because you have no respect for the past time and the serious people that do it. And thanks for the face palm back, I hope it knocked some sense into you, though I seriously doubt it.
mousehockey37
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I'm not trying to please "serious" pin traders, so I couldn't care less. And you can't guarantee that the one's I'm buying are fakes. You are just assuming that they are. I'm going by the description that says "authentic" pins.
And you would figure that "serious" pin traders wouldn't look to a CM lanyard anyways, so they wouldn't be effected.
When you buy a "lot" of 20 pins and the value being asked is $20, do you really think you're getting anything real? They're labeled "authentic" because of the discarded mold that was taken and used to make the fake pins.
AndyS2992
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Actually CM lanyards often have exclusive CM pins you cannot buy on them so.. yeah.I'm not trying to please "serious" pin traders, so I couldn't care less. And you can't guarantee that the one's I'm buying are fakes. You are just assuming that they are. I'm going by the description that says "authentic" pins.
And you would figure that "serious" pin traders wouldn't look to a CM lanyard anyways, so they wouldn't be effected.
You know what you are doing is illegal, immoral and against pin trading policy and now that you have been called out on it, you are lashing out to make yourself feel better. You are in the wrong, end of.
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bjlc57
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wow THANKS FOR THE CLUE and the Update.. and the WARNING.. Sorry.. but if its ONE FOR ONE.. then it should be EQUAL VALUE.. a trade is something that BOTH SIDES WIN AT.. not one person takes advantage of someone else.. or someone else's lack of knowledge.. THIS IS DISNEY WORLD.. and not a PAWN SHOP..Be VERY careful trading with other guests since a large amount of people go around with counterfeit pins they have bought in cheap lots on eBay. Always make sure the pin you have chosen is genuine before trading
Nothing more disappointing than trading one you bought for $10 and have been tricked in to accepting a worthless fake one that the person paid hardly anything for.
There are a few posters on this forum that encourage this and I think it is disgusting, you know who you are.
http://www.themeparktourist.com/features/20140526/18214/7-ways-tell-if-disney-pin-genuine
So yeah, only buy pins from Disney itself and always double check authenticity before completing a trade.
mousehockey37
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Just to enlighten everyone here:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/LEARNING-ABOUT-SCRAPPER-DISNEY-PINS-/10000000001748045/g.html
http://www.ebay.com/gds/LEARNING-ABOUT-SCRAPPER-DISNEY-PINS-/10000000001748045/g.html
SAV
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OOOOHHHHHH....So nice to go with the personal insults. What a great comeback at me.
SAV
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Actually CM lanyards often have exclusive CM pins you cannot buy on them so.. yeah.
You know what you are doing is illegal, immoral and against pin trading policy and now that you have been called out on it, you are lashing out to make yourself feel better. You are in the wrong, end of.
So if these exclusive CM pins that you mention are ones that you cannot buy, then me trading them one that I did buy is actually me getting a pin that is free and giving one I paid for. So I am actually giving the CM a pin that is worth more, monetarily, than one they had. See, anything can be twisted around like you are doing to me.
I am doing nothing illegal. I purchased "authentic" pins, my kids are having fun and trading pins. Nothing illegal about that. And you can believe that there are all "authentic" pins on the CM lanyards if you wish, but I don't believe that. So why in the world would I trade a $7 pin purchased at the park for a $1 pin or cheaper? So I have the joy of making you happy so the next person can just trade a cheap pin for the expensive one?
I don't believe I lashed out at anyone. I stated my position rather calmly. If anything a couple of you are using the strong language of "Disgusting", "immoral", telling me I have no sense, etc. and are lashing out at me because you think you are right.
So you can keep attacking me if you like, but I stated my position and really don't feel that strongly about this to get into an argument over it.
BrianV
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Wow. My kids had such fun the last trip, the first time we'd ever traded pins. We bought 5 or 6 while there and they had fun trading. (We found a chip and dale 2010 from the year they first went to wdw!). I had no idea there were "serious traders" or the level of intrigue. The world of counterfeit disney trading pins is a new one to me. I guess this is just another case of being better not knowing how the hotdogs are made...
My advice is have fun and leave the schemes to others.
My advice is have fun and leave the schemes to others.
Mouse_Trap
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I thought CMs were only supposed to trade genuine pins. Is this not the case or does sometimes the odd fake slip through?
A question I've always wondered is who is responsible for stocking the CMs lanyards? Is it something theyre expected todo themselves or does somebody have a job each day restocking them etc?
A question I've always wondered is who is responsible for stocking the CMs lanyards? Is it something theyre expected todo themselves or does somebody have a job each day restocking them etc?
kelknight84
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As a former cast member who participated in the pin trading program I have some insight. To join the program you had to read a bunch of rules and then sign a contract. You were to only trade for authentic pins. You could switch up your pins at anytime to refresh but you had to return the same amount you checked out. If you returned your lanyard with missing pins or fake pins you could get disciplined or charged for the pins. Managers could have more than the 12 and could also just give them away at their discretion.
There were lots of CM's that did not participate for these reasons. I loved it and thought it was worthwhile. You could tell who was going to try and give you fake pins.
But for anyone who thinks it is completely no harm but buying fake ones and trading is mistaken and could be costing a CM their job or money.
There were lots of CM's that did not participate for these reasons. I loved it and thought it was worthwhile. You could tell who was going to try and give you fake pins.
But for anyone who thinks it is completely no harm but buying fake ones and trading is mistaken and could be costing a CM their job or money.
draybook
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If you're that concerned then I suggest you sit on your pc all day every day and play detective on Ebay. I'm not going to take the time to play Sherlock Holmes. And the fact that some of you are getting so worked up over it amuses me. Illegal? That was the funniest thing I've read all day, and that includes the story of Tim Tebow getting signed by the Eagles....
mouse_luv
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You can say you don't feel strongly about this all you want, but you obviously do if you keep feeling the need to come back here and quote me and twist the facts.
You are doing something illegal as others have posted. Also, I never said that all the ones on a CM's lanyard are authentic, I said they are SUPPOSED to be and because of people like you, we have to really be careful and check them and CM's have to go backstage and destroy them if they catch them. You can try to twist it all you want but yours are not more expensive than the authentic ones. And I also never stated that all the CM ones that are authentic are RARE. Stop twisting fact. I am not twisting anything, I am stating the way it is. I never called you disgusting or immoral so don't bring that into my end of this discussion. I only said you are in the wrong. The moral of the story here is don't buy fake pins and ruin the reason that this past time is done. IF you want your kids to have fake pins and you don't care, then buy your fake pins and keep them to yourselves.
And this is why we can't have nice things. *hits ignore*
AndyS2992
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You seem to be ignorant to the fact that having possession of ANY counterfeit item whether it be currency, pirate DVDs, Disney pins etc is a crime.
SDisney90
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LOL Gotta' love forums...
Here's my 2 cents...My first trip to DW was in 2010 and I just recently heard about pin trading so I bought a few pins at the stores around the parks (never traded them) then realized damn, I spent like 50 bucks on 6 pins! Fast forward to before my 2011 trip, I purchased a 20 pin lot on eBay. Well, long story short they came in and were absolutely awful. Paint chipping, jagged edges, colors weren't even close etc. Mind you I purchased these because I was looking to trade in DTD that year. Started reading about scrappers and all this stuff, IMO I don't condone it and I know most people don't really care that's fine by me. One way or another it is an illegal product just as Pirated DVDs, Software, Designer Products etc.
My issue with this is a person spending their hard earned money on a pin that ranges from 7.95- whatever price then ends up trading it up for a possible "scapper" pin that someone else paid 20 cents each off of eBay. Moral of the story; don't like it- don't trade your store bought Disney store/park pins. Disney knows the issue is going on, it would be impossible not to know it is. If there hasn't been anything done by now I don't expect anything anytime soon either. My pin are my pins, I do not trade, nor will I ever. The pins I have are to be showcased on my cork board (dated pins, limited edition etc) not to trade.
Chernaboggles
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We go Chernabog hunting. We always have a pin or two we're willing to trade and keep an eye out when we're in the parks. Since he's not terribly common, when a CM does have one it's usually different than the batch currently on sale and is a fun little find. I love all the pins, so hunting for one specific character keeps the costs down. We don't usually find more than two in any given trip.
draybook
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Wow, you examined my pins and deemed them as fakes? I didn't even hear the front door open. You're good....