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PHOTOS - Walls up at at the proposed DVC Villas location at the Grand Floridian
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MissMorrow
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This one and BLT are the only ones I have issues with. I think Kidani will look better in 10yrs once the vegetation matures.
BLT still looks wrong to me. I haven't gotten over the architecture clash and lopsidedness, but whatever. I'm sure I'll just stop seeing it eventually. I have hope that the GF DVC will at least blend in better, but must they smash another building onto the lake? Can't they build a new separate resort on the other side of Bay Lake? (Can anything even be built over there, I've forgotten?) Or why not take over Discovery Island and turn it into a secluded private island-like DVC experience? Why fix what isn't broken? :hammer:
BLT still looks wrong to me. I haven't gotten over the architecture clash and lopsidedness, but whatever. I'm sure I'll just stop seeing it eventually. I have hope that the GF DVC will at least blend in better, but must they smash another building onto the lake? Can't they build a new separate resort on the other side of Bay Lake? (Can anything even be built over there, I've forgotten?) Or why not take over Discovery Island and turn it into a secluded private island-like DVC experience? Why fix what isn't broken? :hammer:
COProgressFan
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I don't know if the wedding pavilion will be "totally ruined" but there will be a tremendous negative impact. The building itself, as well as Franck's, will be there and will be just as beautiful as ever. But the setting is a critical part of the pavilion's appeal. Having a 5 story hotel building towering over it will destroy whatever charm and serene isolation that was there. Looking at the plans, instead of a straight tree-lined driveway into the pavilion, one will have to drive through/around a parking lot to get to it. Not exactly a grand or "magical" entrance for brides who paid thousands of dollars to ride in Cinderella's horse drawn coach.
I really hope they put a LOT of landscaping to block views of the parking lot and driveway areas and the DVC building's porte cochere from the pavilion.
flavious27
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Building another resort would be nice, but it isn't going to change the need for a GF DVC.
Why not just build a wedding resort?
COProgressFan
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Who says there is a "need" for GF DVC? Current DVC members? Future DVC buyers? Shareholders? P&R execs?
Even if the company believes there is a "need", the placement and size of the building is one of the major concerns here.
Current members want it and many perspective buyers have asked for it as well.
flavious27
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Just looking through the forum here, there is an interest in dvc units at not only gf but poly. There have been concerns with placement of other dvc resorts throughout the property in the past, and they have worked out for the most part.
bgraham34
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I have a cousin who is waiting for the GF to get DVC and then they are going to join. They only want to stay there so they will be extremely happy once it happens. As far as the Poly goes that is where I want DVC but I wont buy points just rent there. The price per point is getting way to high IMHO.
flavious27
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Agreed, the points are starting to get to the level that the cost benefits are being reduced.
COProgressFan
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They have worked out financially, of course, for Disney in the near term.
But there is a long term cost, primarily the impact of over development of the property. That has financial effects for the company they will continually deal with in the future, and affects guests as the "World" becomes more and more built up like the real world.
The Florida project had the "blessing of size" but was continued development of the property into time shares part of that vision?
googilycub
Active Member
Was the building of a "movie studio" park part of that vision? Was the building of a racetrack? How about an adult area full of night clubs? I really wish people would stop going back to an almost 50 year old recording. Times, and visions change.....:brick::brick:
flavious27
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Well if we look at what walt wanted at different points in the project, time shares would fit in.
There is a large amount of land that is protected from development, so I don't see wdw becoming a suburban sprawl mess. There is land that is empty around wdw if they want to expand.
Kamikaze
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The Florida Project (E.P.C.O.T.) was supposed to be a city. So, as a city, it would, presumably, have people paying rent to the city. Which is very similar to a timeshare. Therefore, I hereby make the argument that DVC is more in line with Walt's vision of the Florida Project than EPCOT (the park), DHS, AK, or just about anything except the MK (which was part of the Florida Project).
DonaldDoleWhip
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Thanks for the concept art. The concept art looks pretty, but we knew that the new building would be similar in style to other GF buildings. I still don't like the placement of it, since that beautiful, long stretch of beach will become segmented and the Wedding Pavilion will lose its sense of seclusion.
What strikes me is the first and second floor. It looks like the rooms only start on the third floor, and there could be some things (such as restaurants) below. Or the artists just got lazy and copied the look of GF's main building (which has Grand Floridian Cafe on a lower floor and Citricos right above it).
What strikes me is the first and second floor. It looks like the rooms only start on the third floor, and there could be some things (such as restaurants) below. Or the artists just got lazy and copied the look of GF's main building (which has Grand Floridian Cafe on a lower floor and Citricos right above it).
dreamscometrue
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Interesting thought, and I don't disagree.
One point though, the Florida Project was not just E.P.C.O.T. Walt states in the 24 minute Florida Project (Project X) video of Oct. 1966 that "the theme park and all the other tourist facilities, fill just one small area of our enormous Florida project." The other facilities included the airport, industrial park, etc.
Kamikaze
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Right. Exactly. The theme park (singular) and its amenities were just a small part of the property. What was the rest? E.P.C.O.T. That included everything not directly related to the MK.
menamechris
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Well, when put that way absolutely anything can be put into that definiton of Walt's "vision". I think the missing factor is that the point of EPCOT was above all else innovation and progress. It was to be an example (to the world) of how urban problems could be solved through technology and advanced urban planning. The "vision" had absolutely nothing to do with vacation homes or being a prosperous timeshare type business.
flavious27
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This concept art was just posted on another site.
I'm ready to use my points there as long as they are about in line with BLT. Looks great IMHO.
Looks like what I expect, this concept looks stunning and will be when it is built. I just wish that the all stars weren't such the red-headed stepchildren.