DisneyDose
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While I agree, the open space will now just be clogged with strollers.
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While I agree, the open space will now just be clogged with strollers.
Lee
Adventurer
I was looking at this other thread with photos from 1977.
Obviously, strollers weren't a big part of a day at the MK back then.
Ahhh....so much open space...
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/a-few-nostalgic-eyegasms-from-1977.851153/
Obviously, strollers weren't a big part of a day at the MK back then.
Ahhh....so much open space...
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/a-few-nostalgic-eyegasms-from-1977.851153/
nytimez
Well-Known Member
This is beyond nonsense and discredits anything you have to say on this topic.
Lee
Adventurer
Really? I disagree. Kid that age would be just as happy with a shiny toy, I would think.
Any less that three years old seems....pointless, to me.
nytimez
Well-Known Member
Well, a shiny toy is different from crapping their pants, which was the analogy the previous poster made.
In general, I've found that a normal 15-year-old child is capable of enjoying "meeting" Mickey Mouse, riding it's a small world, etc. and getting more stimulus from it than crapping their pants or even a shiny toy. I would content that between 2 and 4 -- and I'd include a 15-month-old in that -- is an almost magical age to visit Disney since by 5 most have figured out that Mickey is really... well.. a friend of Mickey and that the animatronics aren't real.
At 15 months... and yes, even more so at 2-3-4 years... however, all of these things are all too real and very magical to a small child of average development.
Now, I wouldn't say people have to bring a 15-month-old to WDW or even that they should bring on the WDW if trips to the parks are few and far between (as they are for many). But for families that travel there anyway, certainly there are things in the parks that can provide an average 15-month-old with more satisfaction that most (maybe not all) shiny toys... and certainly more satisfaction than pants-crapping.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
Having been there with my 18 month old nephew, the "appreciation" garnered by the child at the age is more reflective of a delusional parent. That certainly has value, but to think a 15 month old child is going to remember that is flat out wrong.
The child is going to enjoy it, but they're not going to remember it.
nytimez
Well-Known Member
Hold on, Nellie -- you're throwing up a straw man here. I never said anything about whether or not a kid would remember it, nor did the post of yours that I quoted menton that. That's another story altogether.
But, thanks for playing.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
The original post said that the 15 month old remembered it. I call B.S. at that age Disney World is a sensory experience that's no different from pooping in a diaper, or the adult equivalent of seeing Stitch's Great Escape.
nytimez
Well-Known Member
I wasn't replying to the post on memory. But a single trip with an 18-month-old nephew hardly makes you an expert in the "sensory experience" department now, does it?
But, you can rant about delusional parents because they think their kids enjoy meeting Mickey all you want. I think it's weird and possibly a little creepy that it's something you'd want to argue about with that level of passion, but, so be it. You're still wrong on that account. Many, although certainly not all, toddlers can definitely get more of a sensory experience out of WDW than they would out of crapping their pants.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Sure a 15 mo old won't remember going to WDW. So, if the main criteria for taking a toddler to the parks is simply will they remember it, that could color that decision. I don't think that's a necessary standard, since parents are going to do something with their young children and going to WDW seems like as good an option as anything else one would want to do together as a family. I don't see the downside to taking a toddler to WDW where they can ride a lot of rides, meet characters and watch age appropriate parades and shows -- as long as you are fine with the "hassles" that come with bringing a child to the park.*
Anyway, if you are using "remembering the trip" as a criteria for having a child go, you are still looking at something like 2 1/2 for an age cutoff where the will have recollection of stuff. At worse, by around 3 years old, a child will remember a lot. I think it's hard to come up with a vacation/family time that is more ideal for a 3-5 year old than Disney and a child at that age is certainly going to require a stoller (to bring it back to the initial issue in this thread) given the distances involved in walking at Disney.
*=I would submit that non-parents probably overestimate how much the work involved in having a young child is at the parks. Simply put, the feeding the kids, changing them, watching them all the time, carrying them, whatever -- it's stuff you do every day. If you don't have children and you see folks do it at a park, it might seem like it is something that is a big burden and interfering with a vacation, but the reality is that it becomes second nature for a parent of a young child to do that stuff. And if you are going to be changing a poopy diaper anyway, much rather do it at a magical place like WDW where it is fun for the parent as well as the kid.
Anyway, if you are using "remembering the trip" as a criteria for having a child go, you are still looking at something like 2 1/2 for an age cutoff where the will have recollection of stuff. At worse, by around 3 years old, a child will remember a lot. I think it's hard to come up with a vacation/family time that is more ideal for a 3-5 year old than Disney and a child at that age is certainly going to require a stoller (to bring it back to the initial issue in this thread) given the distances involved in walking at Disney.
*=I would submit that non-parents probably overestimate how much the work involved in having a young child is at the parks. Simply put, the feeding the kids, changing them, watching them all the time, carrying them, whatever -- it's stuff you do every day. If you don't have children and you see folks do it at a park, it might seem like it is something that is a big burden and interfering with a vacation, but the reality is that it becomes second nature for a parent of a young child to do that stuff. And if you are going to be changing a poopy diaper anyway, much rather do it at a magical place like WDW where it is fun for the parent as well as the kid.
BlueSkyDriveBy
Well-Known Member
These are the boats I truly miss:
Safari Adventure at the Disneyland Hotel
I'm interested in knowing more about the two conflicting plans being discussed in the thread. Installing a separate ADA dock for special access guests makes complete sense. Given the space constraints with the existing queue location, I don't know where else they could better accommodate the ADA boats for load/unload.
As for the PotC game... can anyone point me to another thread or site with info?
Thanks.
The MaD Hatter
Well-Known Member
I went to WDW for the first time when I was 15 months old, and I vividly remember King Louie in the Jungle Cruise, no doubt about it. So, yeah, babies have awesome memories!
flavious27
Well-Known Member
Not more of this. I am getting tired of TDO paving over MK for more stroller parking.
cupanudles
Active Member
Maybe this is a sneak peek Blue Sky Cellar display for the upcoming "What's Next?" 5th gate announcement? STROLLER KINGDOM! WOOHOO!!!
BrittanyRose428
Well-Known Member
I don't know if I understand how this topic turned to the subject of bringing infants to WDW. I think the problem is more so the older children in strollers. If people only put children in strollers who actually need them and not their ten year olds there would be less of a need for stroller parking.
FabulousFigment
Active Member
Y'all must hate people like me.. not only do we have a stroller, but it is a double. In all seriousness, we brought my daughter when she was 12 months old and videotaped a lot of special memories. She watches the videos all the time and we talk about our next trip in a few months (she will be 2.5) almost every day. Does she remember that trip, most certainly not, but we will always have the memories and she enjoyed the trip thoroughly!
Yensid1974
Well-Known Member
Honestly, strollers are completely out of control in the parks. If I were in a position of power to do something about it, I would. However, since I am not all I can do is say what I would do and hope that someone listens. They need to start by not allowing double wide strollers into the park...period. Next step would be to limit them to children of a specified age group..(up to 3, 4, 5 or whatever). As a previous poster stated it is the "children" who don't even fit in the stroller that need to be stopped most. Strollers should not be allowed to be used as cargo haulers. You don't have to carry your purchases around with you in the park.
ExtinctJenn
Well-Known Member
I really hate when a thread gets so off topic that I have to stop watching it but it is what it is.