PHOTOS - New bag check areas greatly enhance Magic Kingdom arrival experience

[RustySpork]

Do we have confirmation this actually happened? I've never seen security touch a guest.

Nope, but after I saw security ask my wife to lift her shirt and show a belt she wasn't even wearing, I don't have a hard time believing it.

 

[peter11435]

Nope, but after I saw security ask my wife to lift her shirt and show a belt she wasn't even wearing, I don't have a hard time believing it.

I think that's a very different situation.

 

[RustySpork]

I think that's a very different situation.

They're both invasive and unnecessary.

 

[marshmallow peep]

Do we have confirmation this actually happened? I've never seen security touch a guest.

One poster, last night, said she was patted down. That's the only reason I came into this discussion. I wanted to know if this is procedure now. I was hoping others would share their recent experience. I specifically asked if anyone else had been patted down. I genuinely wanted to know. Instead of getting any answers, people started questioning why some of us can't just go along with the security procedure. I wasn't looking to debate the presence of security in general. I just wanted to know- are pat downs to be expected now? I am surprised that with a very few exceptions most don't seem to mind. Either that or they'd rather argue their own position without even paying attention to what's actually being said or asked.

 

[peter11435]

They're both invasive and unnecessary.

I realize you find the entire process unnecessary. But, if the scanner went off and showed something at belt level I feel like it's understandable that they would want to see what was causing it.

 

[Kman]

I'll take your word on that because I really don't know. I mean, I imagine they could have a disclaimer that says, "We reserve the right to feel you up. Refusal prohibits you from entering the parks or using Disney transportation.", but I would have liked to have seen that disclaimer before a spent a few thousand purchasing annual passes for my household.
I would like to hear from more people who have been to Disney since the security process was changed. Were you patted down? That's the part that is really bugging me. Was it just one poster, or is this common practice?

Was there a couple weeks back...no pat downs or touching of any kind

 

[peter11435]

One poster, last night, said she was patted down. That's the only reason I came into this discussion. I wanted to know if this is procedure now. I was hoping others would share their recent experience. I specifically asked if anyone else had been patted down. I genuinely wanted to know. Instead of getting any answers, people started questioning why some of us can't just go along with the security procedure. I wasn't looking to debate the presence of security in general. I just wanted to know- are pat downs to be expected now? I am surprised that with a very few exceptions most don't seem to mind. Either that or they'd rather argue their own position without even paying attention to what's actually being said or asked.

I have not seen or heard of anyone getting patted down and I do not believe the procedure has changed to allow this. Based on the poster you are referring to I would assume it was just a bit of hyperbole.

 

[marshmallow peep]

Was there a couple weeks back...no pat downs or touching of any kind

I have not seen or heard of anyone getting patted down and I do not believe the procedure has changed to allow this. Based on the poster you are referring to I would assume it was just a bit of hyperbole.

Thank you both for the solid replies. That's all I wanted to know.

 

[Kman101]

I haven't noticed pat downs either. I don't believe it's regular procedure.

 

[larryz]

Just do what they ask, why are some so angry over this kind of thing?

Yeah, that's what they said in Austria in 1938.

 

[Kman]

Yeah, that's what they said in Austria in 1938.

I really can't stand flippant referrals to things like that. Disrespectful, insensitive and not funny

 

[larryz]

I really can't stand flippant referrals to things like that.

Things like what? You mean like when a whole country just gave up their individual liberties and national sovereignty for the sake of "safety and security"? Yeah, I hate it when that happens, too.

 

[NearTheEars]

I wouldn't have any complaints if it was actually security, and not just theater.

I see this complaint a lot. About everything from the TSA to baseball parks to WDW.
I've yet to encounter a security check that wasn't nearly the same as all of those.
So what is true security then and why would venues not do it?

 

[RustySpork]

I see this complaint a lot. About everything from the TSA to baseball parks to WDW.
I've yet to encounter a security check that wasn't nearly the same as all of those.
So what is true security then and why would venues not do it?

I guess it's OK to just brush it off since some other people are also doing it wrong.

Security isn't cheap, the appearance of security is.

 

[RustySpork]

I realize you find the entire process unnecessary. But, if the scanner went off and showed something at belt level I feel like it's understandable that they would want to see what was causing it.

Yes, because asking a woman to lift her shirt is the obvious choice over using the wand scanner in his hand to detect metal, amirite?

 

[rob0519]

Not really but if you want to approach it that way, that's fine. But you're just making it more difficult on yourself by being so against it. You aren't being profiled like you are a criminal. That's the wrong attitude to have.

I do approach it as being treated like a criminal. If Disney didn't think we were all possible criminals or all possible terrorists, then they wouldn't be searching our bags and making us walk through a metal detector. You don't search and scan innocent people who pose no threat. A combination of real world circumstances and liability attorneys have made us all suspects.

 

[peter11435]

Yes, because asking a woman to lift her shirt is the obvious choice over using the wand scanner in his hand to detect metal, amirite?

So if he uses the wand scanner and it again goes off and in that area under your wife's shirt then what?

I wasn't there so I can't speak for exactly how it was handled. I'm sure his choice of words was wrong. But there is a difference between asking someone to show you a belt or other item causing the alarm and asking someone to remove their shirt.

 

[RustySpork]

I do approach it as being treated like a criminal. If Disney didn't think we were all possible criminals or all possible terrorists, then they wouldn't be searching our bags and making us walk through a metal detector. You don't search and scan innocent people who pose no threat. A combination of real world circumstances and liability attorneys have made us all suspects.

There's a right and wrong way to go about it. They do need to have some semblance of security, but even with the changes it's SO FAR behind the implementation at CityWalk that you can't help but laugh.

I think they used the Haunted Mansion chokepoint as the security queue example, and the bag inspection and x-ray process is taken straight out of loony toons.

 

[RustySpork]

So if he uses the wand scanner and it again goes off and in that area under your wife's shirt then what?

I wasn't there so I can't speak for exactly how it was handled. I'm sure his choice of words was wrong. But there is a difference between asking someone to show you a belt or other item causing the alarm and asking someone to remove their shirt.

My point has been that if he had used the wand scanner it would not have gone off.

 

[NearTheEars]

I guess it's OK to just brush it off since some other people are also doing it wrong.

Security isn't cheap, the appearance of security is.

No, that's not what I'm saying. People keep saying none of it is "real security."
I'm asking what is real security? Because it appears no one has it.
Are we talking like a secret service approach?