PHOTO - Monsters University characters now appearing on the monorail

lazyboy97o

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Lol that's like saying resorts shouldn't be themed because your eyes are closed when you sleep. @Scooterkid seems to be saying he thinks these look cool. No more, no less.
To use your own logic and your own words, how will your monorail ride be any different?

If you can use that logic as a retort to those who like the wraps, it is equally valid as a retort to your hatred of them.
The monorails are not being themed, they are being decorated. It is exactly the same as the way Six Flags handles its superhero roller coasters. The theming of a hotel creates an experience. These wraps do not create a new experience, but they do distract from the presentation of the designed image and degrade the escapism.
 

articos

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@articos I completely agree. I also think shows how little Walt Disney World is thought of throughout the Company. The Studio has no respect for even suggesting these and the Resort has no respect for accepting instead of being insulted. When do we get the Disney Princess wrap? Or the ESPN wrap?
Sadly, this was WDW Marketing and Transportation working together, not the Studio, so I don't place blame on the Studio marketing group. The Studio simply asks about opportunities to synergize marketing across the parks. Someone from Studio may have said "What about using the Monorail?" but WDW Marketing and the Transportation management had to be the final say here.

The monorails are not being themed, they are being decorated. It is exactly the same as the way Six Flags handles its superhero roller coasters. The theming of a hotel creates an experience. These wraps do not create a new experience, but they do distract from the presentation of the designed image and degrade the escapism.
Exactly.
 

Tim_4

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The monorails are not being themed, they are being decorated. It is exactly the same as the way Six Flags handles its superhero roller coasters. The theming of a hotel creates an experience. These wraps do not create a new experience, but they do distract from the presentation of the designed image and degrade the escapism.
"Degrade the escapism"?!?!?!?!?!

I'm sorry but that just seems waaaay overboard. That's like cult language.
 

articos

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Also, along similar lines, the equipment on top of the station at Epcot is a projection of Mike W. from Monsters U onto Spaceship Earth - there's video of it out today. Again, major problem for me, as it's not consistent with the theme of where they're placing it. Sure, SSE is round, and it makes for a perfect gimmicky projection, but Epcot is the wrong place for this, especially on the icon, and SSE has no relation to Monsters U. It's a good idea executed in the wrong place.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Also, along similar lines, the equipment on top of the station at Epcot is a projection of Mike W. from Monsters U onto Spaceship Earth - there's video of it out today. Again, major problem for me, as it's not consistent with the theme of where they're placing it. Sure, SSE is round, and it makes for a perfect gimmicky projection, but Epcot is the wrong place for this, especially on the icon, and SSE has no relation to Monsters U. It's a good idea executed in the wrong place.

I would be so upset if my one trip a year I couldn't get glorious nighttime shots of SSE...I think the Mike thing is amusing, and if they used it sparingly (not all night) I think it would be kindof fun...but I hope they don't make this a constant thing, and that if it is, it's gone by my trip in August.

Cake Castle, Wand and BAH anyone? Anyone? Beuller?
 

articos

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"Degrade the escapism"?!?!?!?!?!

I'm sorry but that just seems waaaay overboard. That's like cult language.
I disagree, Tim. Walt Disney World is (was) an escape from everyday life. You weren't assaulted by the outside world when you came onto the property, on purpose. There are no above ground utilities, the grounds are manicured, the waterways planned and there's limited aspects of things like McDonalds. Advertising plays into the planning, meaning limited billboards. When the monorails become standard city busses, with the advertising that goes along with that, it does "degrade the escapism" of a Walt Disney World vacation. No cult about it. :)
 

The Empress Lilly

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Also, along similar lines, the equipment on top of the station at Epcot is a projection of Mike W. from Monsters U onto Spaceship Earth - there's video of it out today. Again, major problem for me, as it's not consistent with the theme of where they're placing it. Sure, SSE is round, and it makes for a perfect gimmicky projection, but Epcot is the wrong place for this, especially on the icon, and SSE has no relation to Monsters U. It's a good idea executed in the wrong place.
http://www./wp-content/uploads/2013/04/wazowski.jpg

To think we used to make sarcastic jokes about this:

spaceshipearth_mikew.jpg


Remember kids: never, ever, post something that might give these clowns ideas. They are always listening. I am perfectly convinced they took their idea - simply by it lingering on in their subconscious - from this famous Yesterland photo, which was a moderatly succesful Disney-meme nearly a decade ago. :confused:

Thank God current TDO is even cheaper than we thought ten years ago. No paint, no new wand-like construction and giant cap, but just a projection. Making all this both better and at the same time worse than we ever even feared.
 

Mr Bill

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I don't mind the SSE projection too much, as a one time only thing. I am concerned though, because that's what I thought about Tronorail once upon a time. I'd hate to see projections on SSE become a regular thingn
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I don't mind the SSE projection too much, as a one time only thing. I am concerned though, because that's what I thought about Tronorail once upon a time. I'd hate to see projections on SSE become a regular thingn

I don't mind the monorail wraps as long as they aren't wrapping them all at once...seeing the Tronorail roll up was something pretty cool (I also feel this way about the IM2 wrap...what is that...the Iron Manorail?)

However, dressing up the park icon / entrance / most visible piece of the Park, I am leery about.

I would think it would be sortof cool if it accompanied some show, so it was more like MM&Y instead of all night long.

I'm gonna be really upset if my big shiny ball is green on my trip.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I don't mind the SSE projection too much, as a one time only thing. I am concerned though, because that's what I thought about Tronorail once upon a time. I'd hate to see projections on SSE become a regular thingn
Once is fun. But like the city-bus-advert-monorail, all this advertising space is addictive. Marketing will never let go once it has got something in its clutches.

In real life too, who wouldn't want a massive billboard on top of the White House, the Taj Mahal and St. Peter's? So much attention to these landmarks, so tempting to use them for marekting! Fortunately, these identity giving icons are well-protected by their governments. Alas, who in TWDC will protect WDW's icons from the marketing bois?
 

Uncle Lupe

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http://www./wp-content/uploads/2013/04/wazowski.jpg


To think we used to make sarcastic jokes about this:

spaceshipearth_mikew.jpg


Remember kids: never, ever, post something that might give these clowns ideas. They are always listening. I am perfectly convinced they took their idea - simply by lingering on in their subconscious - from this famous Yesterland photo, which was a modestly succesful Disney-meme nearly a decade ago. :confused:

Thank God current TDO is even cheaper than we thought ten years ago. No new wand, but just a projection. Making all this both better and at the same time worse than we ever even feared.

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The Empress Lilly

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I seem to be in the minority so far in this thread, but I hate these with a burning passion. This is the turning point when the wraps/monorail-as-billboard go from being an every-so-often to a regular thing. IMHO, these look like a cheap bus wrap, or any average billboard, and the fact they're above the 'WDW Monorail System' on the skirt makes it worse for me.
The monorail is an essential element of the WDW experience. The first ride. They are as iconic as the castle, the Contemporary A-frame tower, the buildings of MS.

Surely, one wouldn't project images of Monsters on the windows above Main Street? Put a few Monsters in between the pirates at PotC (except for Depp)? Sneak Monsters dolls in Small World (ermm...)? These places are not advertising space. They are the core WDW experiences and sights.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Youknow, I'd support this (sans wand), but only if it was temporary, and the laser was pointed at the BAH.
Now that would be awesome.

Look, the minute WDW installs a laser on 'Death Star SSE' that shoots down X-wings of the 'FL flying dragon' type above World Showcase lagoon to the main theme of Star Wars, that is when I'll tattoo 'I love TDO!' on my forehead.

I'm not holding my breath on them using projections and wraps for fun stuff though. This is for the marketing bois.
 

Uncle Lupe

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Now that would be awesome.

Look, the minute WDW installs a laser on 'Death Star SSE' that shoots down X-wings of the 'FL flying dragon' type above World Showcase lagoon to the main theme of Star Wars, is when I'll tattoo 'I love TDO!' on my forehead.

I'm not holding my breath on them using projections and wraps for fun stuff though. This is for the marketing bois.

Lets hope that idea sinks into an imagineers brain to emerge for 2015 Star Wars weekends.
 

Bolt

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http://www./wp-content/uploads/2013/04/wazowski.jpg


To think we used to make sarcastic jokes about this:

spaceshipearth_mikew.jpg


Remember kids: never, ever, post something that might give these clowns ideas. They are always listening. I am perfectly convinced they took their idea - simply by lingering on in their subconscious - from this famous Yesterland photo, which was a modestly succesful Disney-meme nearly a decade ago. :confused:

Thank God current TDO is even cheaper than we thought ten years ago. No new wand, but just a projection. Making all this both better and at the same time worse than we ever even feared.

Or they put Mike on everything circle, not sure that its the craziest idea to think of. I'm pretty sure I saw Mike soccer balls.
 

Tim_4

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I disagree, Tim. Walt Disney World is (was) an escape from everyday life. You weren't assaulted by the outside world when you came onto the property, on purpose. There are no above ground utilities, the grounds are manicured, the waterways planned and there's limited aspects of things like McDonalds. Advertising plays into the planning, meaning limited billboards. When the monorails become standard city busses, with the advertising that goes along with that, it does "degrade the escapism" of a Walt Disney World vacation. No cult about it. :)
I've posted this before but that's not true. Walt Disney LOVED cross promotion. He basically invented it. Disneyland attractions were basically advertisements for media franchises and vice versa.
 

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