Phantom Manor vs Pirates of the Caribbean

[The Empress Lilly]

it should be obvious why water is the lousiest conveyance for a ride.
Water inherently limits vehicle movement and manipulation compared to non water conveyances. And for those water bound journey type attractions that spray or drench guests count me out as that is not fun.

Is your sense of fun why they have divorced you four times?

 

[Married5Times]

s your sense of fun why they have divorced you four times?

hahah......to answer your question sort of yes----- at least for one of the four.

2 wanted out, period. can't blame them whatsoever(#1,#3)
I had way enough of #4 leaving her heartbroken and bitter after I said time to stop.
as for #2, my favoite, we vowed to try again when we were both more mature and selfless. Thus, dissolution was amicable and we are great friends.............never know, she just might be #6 soon.

 

[Robbiem]

Hard choice but I went for Pirates. Phantom Manor has a great exterior and setting but is mainly the haunted mansion with a few changed out set pieces like the graveyard/ western town. It does have dreamfinder as they mayor though which is a good easter egg.
Pirates tries a bit more to be something different- the carribean queue area is great and the ride has some fun differences like the elevated view from the fort, dueling pirates etc. I remember reading when DLP opened that placing the skeletons at the end was meant to be a warning of what happened to the bad eggs. Its not my favourite version of the ride (I think Tokyo is still be best) but it is a good ride in its own right
i have to say though it was a close call if I’d seen phantom with the Vincent price narration or pirates with the movie tie in my choice might have flipped

 

[PrinceCharming617]

Tough choice, that's harder than answering "Whose your favorite child?"

 

[Married5Times]

as great as Pirates is Phantom is the noticeably better attraction: deeper storytelling, a far more interesting subject to base a ride, nonwater-based ride system.

 

[cjkeating]

Phantom Manor easily, especially with the updates improving it, whereas I think most of the Pirates changes made it less satisfying. And that’s with Pirates being elite still.

Interesting... would be like to know what changes you dislike on Pirates? The only thing that really bothers me in the live action mist screen which I hope (like the US) gets turned off eventually the technical upgrades versus how it was pre-refurb are something else.

For Phantom however whilst I like all the technical upgrades I feel like the storyline has been completely butchered. Also them replacing the Phantom soundtrack with Haunted Mansion for the hallway scene (including those awful 'let me out let me out' voices) really ruins it for me.

 

[marni1971]

Interesting... would be like to know what changes you dislike on Pirates? The only thing that really bothers me in the live action mist screen which I hope (like the US) gets turned off eventually the technical upgrades versus how it was pre-refurb are something else.

I actually think the mist screen works the best in Paris. Not too bright, each boat only sees it once, no lit fog to give it away, and that music blaring out! Given the setting too it just adds creepiness to the whole scene and works as a great build up in addition to the OG surroundings.

I’m more miffed at the removed rear projection fighting, and why the last Sparrow is placed in the present day when all pirates are meant to be skeletons.

Phantom is almost perfect, but I lament the loss of the projection skies, the earthquake fissures and the gorgeous finale music (and the finale Melanie)

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I actually think the mist screen works the best in Paris. Not too bright, each boat only sees it once, no lit fog to give it away, and that music blaring out! Given the setting too it just adds creepiness to the whole scene and works as a great build up in addition to the OG surroundings.

I’m more miffed at the removed rear projection fighting, and why the last Sparrow is placed in the present day when all pirates are meant to be skeletons.

Phantom is almost perfect, but I lament the loss of the projection skies, the earthquake fissures and the gorgeous finale music (and the finale Melanie)

I found myself feeling somewhat disappointed by the Phantom Manor changes - I think on a technical level it mostly looks better than ever, Phantom Canyon excluded for reasons you mention (also the loss of the Zombie-Phantom was TRAGIC, that was a fantastic and freaky "what the ?!" moment), but I really wish they hadn't made the effort to clarify the ride's storyline.

For one, I don't think the changes they made to it actually offer much more clarity, but they do somewhat remove the freedom for the audience to come to their own conclusions about the mysterious goings-on in the house. I think the general thrust of the throughline was as clear as it needed to be in the original, and doing things like stating without a doubt who the Phantom was in life only hems in what felt to me like a more expansive story. Not to mention the new revelation with the Bride's character . . . the grand drama of the in the original felt so much more delicious to me. There was a level on which the two characters felt also like the forces of good and evil at odds. And capping it off with the hellish Phantom Canyon made for a deliriously spooky turn. For all the similarities, it sent you out on a VERY different note than The Haunted Mansion does.

Some of the new effects are handsome, though. I prefered when the Bride had only one suitor, but those new Stretch Room portraits really are a sight.