Petition for Disney to address rude guest behavior at Disney Parks.

Has a rude guest ever negatively impacted your vacation at Disney World?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 39 51.3%
  • No.

    Votes: 37 48.7%

  • Total voters
    76

Siren

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Petitioning The Walt Disney Company

Disney Parks Should Introduce New "Courteous Guest Guidelines" for Better Guest Enjoyment

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How many times have you lined up for a parade or fireworks at a Disney theme park hours in advance, only to have your waiting squandered by another guest who decided to be rude? Whether it is guests putting their children on their shoulders, running people over with a stroller or ECV, or pushing their children through others so they can see, it seems like these types of situations are more and more evident in Disney Parks these days. I'm not saying these things never happened in the past, but it seems to be happening more and more as crowds increase annually at the parks.

The sad part is that unnecessary arguments over these types of things are often what lead to violent incidents in the park, whether it be verbal or physical. I have seen these incidents happen, and over the last few years I have been in the middle of situations where I was verbally attacked while my party was simply standing or sitting in a designated viewing area for parades or fireworks.

Common courtesy between guests is encouraged in the park rules, but other than profanity, it isn't very clear what exactly is prohibited. Perhaps some courtesies aren't considered common to all people, so maybe Disney needs to be a little clearer about some things to make sure their guests do not have to try to police the parks themselves when another guest or group of guests is being rude, "disruptive, or offensive."


I will not attempt to draft the exact wording that Disney should place inside park maps or have dictated over loud speakers as there are teams of Disney lawyers who can do a much better job finding the proper way to word such policies. Rather, I will simply lay out the policies we feel Disney Parks should adopt and perhaps why if it is not self-explanatory. Included below are not just items related to entertainment viewing, but also some general policies that should probably be put in place.


-The act of placing children up on shoulders should be prohibited. I have visited the parks with children between the ages of 2-6. For the enjoyment of guests around us, I held the children to my side at my eye level. This ensured that the children could see and that I was not blocking the view of anyone around us. I know this could be a little more painful than up on the shoulders, but it really is the polite thing to do.

-Be sure to lower balloons or take off large hats before parades and fireworks. Your balloon can also block the view of guests around you. This policy is actually verbally stated in pre-show announcements at Tokyo Disneyland Resort.

-Do not push your child or forcibly place yourself between guests already waiting to view the parade or fireworks. If a guest is nice enough to allow other guests to share a space or to stand/sit in front of them, that is permissible, but guests should not be pushing themselves or their children into, over, or on top of other guests just so they can see. Arrive early for parades and fireworks shows as to ensure a good view.

-Use designated walkways and crosswalks leading up to fireworks and parades. Do not push between guests already waiting for the show just because you need to shave 5 seconds off of your travel time. Please use the pathways and such that cast members have worked very hard to set-up and maintain with tape, ropes, or the like. While sitting on the curb waiting for parades, I have been hit with strollers and ECVs. This is unnecessary and rude. Literally, there was a crosswalk manned by a Disney cast member with 5-10 seconds walking distance from us on all of these occasions.

-Cell phone usage in attractions should be prohibited. Please silence any and all electronic devices before entering a ride or attraction and please do not turn on your camera flash or screen lighting if a member of your party is frightened in a dark attraction. Simply follow the regulations at the attraction you are visiting, most of which have a cast member who would be happy to assist you in exiting or even a set of nearby, accessible exit doors that were explained before your experience began.

-Holding electronic devices over your head for taking photographs or video recording during attractions, shows, and parades is prohibited. Please hold your device at eye level as not to block the view of those around you.

Maybe some of these policies will be too much for Disney Parks to adopt today, but there doesn't seem to be a real push to handle the situations caused by the lack of such policies in the parks. If this petition doesn't go anywhere, at least more guests may be made aware of these issues by reading this, and that would be great. No one should have to have an argument with a stranger at Disney World that could easily be avoided otherwise. We are simply suggesting that if such policies were posted, printed in guide maps, or announced verbally over loudspeakers before any event, many of these situations could be completely avoided. We hope you will agree with us and join us in the fight for these new courteous guest guidelines.


https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-d...es-for-better-guest-enjoyment#petition-letter

From what I can gather here, the goal is for Disney to clearly define and outline acceptable behavior practices for guests and also outline the consequences for guests who engage in disorderly conduct.

I liken this approach to visiting a movie theater, where at the beginning of the film -- 15 minutes or so is spent on drilling into viewers minds to turn off their cell phone, be quiet and just behave during the movie or else the consequences involve being asked to leave the theater or whatever.

I guess it couldn't hurt. I just can't gauge how large of a problem this is. Personally, all of the guests I've met at Disney are super nice -- *every* time we go to Disney we meet fun people who just follow us after a ride and want to hang out with us for another ride or two and sometimes even a show, lol. There are rude people at Disney for sure, but they haven't ruined my vacation yet -- they're just annoying at this point.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
I commend your idea. However, I'm afraid it's just not going to happen.

You're dealing with people who attend WDW with one burning ambition in their mind - to have the best time possible (and usually at the expense of everyone else).
Disney would not be able to police the suggestions that you're considering. Imagine one cm dealing with one incident of people pushing in, how many cm's would it take to deal with an entire parade route or fireworks crowd ? Who is telling the truth, how do you decide stood at the side of a parade route with the imminent arrival of a parade ?

I'm not knocking your proposal, I'm just looking at it from a practical enforcement point of view.
 

Siren

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I commend your idea. However, I'm afraid it's just not going to happen.

You're dealing with people who attend WDW with one burning ambition in their mind - to have the best time possible (and usually at the expense of everyone else).
Disney would not be able to police the suggestions that you're considering. Imagine one cm dealing with one incident of people pushing in, how many cm's would it take to deal with an entire parade route or fireworks crowd ? Who is telling the truth, how do you decide stood at the side of a parade route with the imminent arrival of a parade ?

I'm not knocking your proposal, I'm just looking at it from a practical enforcement point of view.
LOL. This is totally *not* my idea and I did not draft this petition, not at all. Someone else drew up this petition on change.org and I just found it interesting.

I totally agree with you -- it just seems like an impossible feat, IMO.

The petition is requesting that Disney should, at the very least, outline and print 'courteous guest behavior guidelines' in the park tour guide maps and other Disney paraphernalia.

So far, almost 200 people have signed the petition - which makes me believe that rude guest encounters in Disney Parks happen infrequently and are more than likely isolated incidents.
 
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wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
I think there are more important things to be concerned about than having our leaders get involved with theme park guest behavior.
I'm just glad that such behavior apparently happens so infrequently that someone would take the time to create a petition....
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
I for one applaud Tokyo for enforcing polite behaviour and wish the American and European parks would follow suit.

I think one the biggest reasons for the decline in manners is that there is no longer concensus about what constitutes appropriate conduct.
Two words. Political correctness. How dare anyone judge anyone else's conduct.
 
I cannot attest to this because we avoid visiting WDW during these times but didn't Disney crack down on the Brazilian Tour Group behavior? Might make sense for Disney to do something similar when it come to your average patron.
 

Gojira ゴジラ

Well-Known Member
I think we have to learn to accept that some people don't have human decency and when they do they may unintentionally do things that may upset you. I'm well aware that I should not stop abruptly to take pictures, read maps etc, but from time to time -unconsciously- I do that for some unknown reasons and I upset some people. It's not intentional but it happens to the rest of us even to the most polite human being.

Bottom line is, learn to tolerate, and as other people here mentioned don't let others dictate your mood. Switch focus, there are tons of goodness around you too.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
This is a tom corless production and ultimately futile. See the thread about animals having their children go to the bathroom in the hub.
 

HeatherWatson

Active Member
How typical - rude behavior in a thread discussing how to curb rude behavior. :rolleyes: Please be polite to each other - thank you.

No wonder you are a moderator :)

In response to the original post...yes, these behaviors are annoying as heck, and yes, it would be wonderful if all people would consider how their behavior might infringe upon the enjoyment of other guests; however, I feel that such policies would be nearly impossible to enforce.

Furthermore, rude behavior is completely subjective, and I personally feel (most importantly) that policies ultimately should aim to protect the safety of guests as opposed to preserving their enjoyment of the parks. While I might enjoy the fireworks more without a big ol' iPad held high in the hands of another guest in front of me, it is what it is, and I'm not gonna give that person the power to spoil my experience the slightest bit. Additionally, I imagine restricting the manner of use for strollers and ECVs could easily set Disney up for some sort of discrimination lawsuit, thus is an entirely impractical rule to have in place.

For the record, I am always mindful of my (and my children's) behavior at Disney as I don't want to spoil the experience of fellow guests in any way. At the same time, I know not everyone will be as considerate, nor do I expect them to be. Fun is what you make it, and no matter what I might encounter at WDW, I'm having a blast! (Though I will call someone out in a heartbeat if they are posing a threat to the well-being of another person! I experienced this on the Little Mermaid, and it's a running joke in my family if someone "acts up" that I'll go Little Mermaid on their...well, you know :p)
 
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copcarguyp71

Well-Known Member
Even if you got 20,000 signatures you will have as much success as if you walked out your front door and screamed "be nice"...these petitions make me laugh. I do not mean to belittle your intentions as they are honorable but the reality is that online petitions have tried time and time again with zero success.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Even if you got 20,000 signatures you will have as much success as if you walked out your front door and screamed "be nice"...these petitions make me laugh. I do not mean to belittle your intentions as they are honorable but the reality is that online petitions have tried time and time again with zero success.
About the same chance as any social media creating any kind of lasting, quality, positive social change.
 

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