Peter Pans Flight Load Times...

[muse1983]

Can someone explain to me why PPF always has such a long stand by line? It never dropped below 40 minutes while we were there recently and as an omnimover attraction I don't understand why it should ever exceed more than a 15 minute wait. I suppose wheelchairs and the CM in charge of loading play a part, but still I will never understand the 40 minute stand by times.

 

[RonAnnArbor]

It's because each vehicle only carries a few people -- the capacity per hour is one of the lowest at the MK, and the load-time is the worst.

They changed the loading procedure at Disneyland Paris, and even there, the wait is normally 30 minutes...

It's just simple supply and demand. Demand to ride is huge, and ride capacity/load times are really slow.

These poor cast members at Peter Pan are among some of the hardest working at the park, and still, it's the slowest loading. It's just the way it is.

 

[unkadug]

It a very popular attraction that FastPass totally destroys the stand by line.

 

[muse1983]

True, it seems as if fast pass only hurts the rides stand by line.

 

[Slugger]

We load close to 1000 guests per hour at PPF. Fastpass does hurt the standby line especially when everyone with a fastpass comes back at once. It also depends on how families in front of you choose to ride. Most people see 2 people in a vehicle and they think they have to ride 2 per vehicle, but we can fit 3 possibly 4 especially if its two parents with small children.

 

[muse1983]

Don't take it the wrong way though, you guys do a great job and I know a sudden rush of people in fast pass must really skew any type of order that could be established.

 

[Slugger]

Don't take it the wrong way though, you guys do a great job and I know a sudden rush of people in fast pass must really skew any type of order that could be established.

Thank you. Yea when we get a big rush of fastpasses it really messes up the flow of things. I know about two weeks ago it was very busy one day and our fastpass line was backed up all the way past the entrance almost making a turn towards the bathrooms. When this happens we have to up our ratio drastically causing the standby wait to jump like crazy. I know on this day standby hit 100 minutes and there were 4 times as many people in the fastpass line as the standby line.

 

[Timekeeper]

Even though it is an amnimover-type ride, when seeing the "ships" back to back on the load/unload platform it's easy to forget that they travel staggered through the attraction, and don't accommodate as many guests inside the ride as, say, Spaceship Earth, Haunted Mansion, etc.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Well think for a second how many people could fit into Small World. 12 maybe? Then Peter Pan. Not to mention its wildly popular.

This is one of the biggest tips in the park, do not ride it without a fastpass. I figured there was a time after Spectromagic that the line would have dwindled and I could ride Pan for a second time, but it was still wrapped around the building. Crazy.

But that's how it is, the staff does a fine job with it. If they ever renovated it I guess they could change it to a bigger seat capacity

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Peter Pan is not an omnimover. The omnimover was the 1960s solution to the low capacity of the classic 1950s darkride.


Load times at Pan are not an issue, they exceed ride capacity. That is, even if they could magically whizz guests into the vehicles instantly, the ride would still not carry any more passengers per hour. (Well, marginally more, on account of the odd delays for special needs riders, cars dispatched emptily, etc)


Low riders per hour + high popularity is the fundamental problem. On top of this, fastpass returns further increase standby wait, sometimes bringing it to a complete standstill.

 

[PhilharMagician]

Also the PP's ride times are near the 40 minute mark within a 1/2 of park opening and FP's are not even in the equation yet. While I agree that FP's can create wild swings in the stand-by line, they would not be as insane if the FP's were restricted to their printed time window. I personally like to have FP's. I rather get to PP and wait only 5 minutes to ride instead of 20+ minutes in the stand-by line.

 

[fosse76]

It's not any better at Disneyland either. Each time I rode it there a 30-35 minute wait, and it is not equipped with FP (none of the Fantasyland attractions at Disneyland utilize the FP system).

 

[mimitchi33]

I think it has such a long wait because it was one of the park's first attractions ever, plus, it's similar to Soarin', but it's a ride through an animatronic land instead of being in front of a giant screen. Plus, many kids like that ride.

 

[dsnyfreak]

it a very popular attraction that fastpass totally destroys the stand by line.

yes yes yes amen!!!

 

[Retlaw Yensid]

I don't think I have ever, in all my times to MK, seen the wait time below 40 minutes, and even that may be a low generalization. It's crazy, but I just accept it as a given

 

[TheBeatles]

the attraction also has frequent ride stops which add to the already long wait.

 

[Magenta Panther]

I too was astonished by the popularity of Peter Pan's Flight. It's always packed. That popularity SHOULD be an indication to TDO that PPF should be the next ride in line for a major plussing. They don't have to make any major changes to the ride's basic storyline - just construct new ride vehicles, inject new technology that would make the midnight flight over London the equal of the flying scenes at Wizarding World, and replace all of the antique AA's with state-of-the-art AAs. PPF could be an amazing ride. As it is, it's wonderfully charming. But it's charming in the way a gramophone or a Model T is charming, IMO.

 

[koryadams]

I hate when people go one at a time...I mean I do BUT ONLY when it is no wait like extra magic hours. But if you have a few people...go together!

 

[thelookingglass]

Fastpass destroys the standby line for EVERY ride with Fastpass.

 

[fosse76]

I too was astonished by the popularity of Peter Pan's Flight. It's always packed. That popularity SHOULD be an indication to TDO that PPF should be the next ride in line for a major plussing.

Actually it's just the opposite. Its popularity says "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

They don't have to make any major changes to the ride's basic storyline - just construct new ride vehicles, inject new technology that would make the midnight flight over London the equal of the flying scenes at Wizarding World, and replace all of the antique AA's with state-of-the-art AAs. PPF could be an amazing ride. As it is, it's wonderfully charming. But it's charming in the way a gramophone or a Model T is charming, IMO.

But why would they feel the need to do any of that? It's massively populart in its Model T incarnation, and Disney doesn't like to spend any of its money as it is, so they certainly won't upgrade an attraction that pleases people in its current incarnation.