Peter Pans Flight Load Times...

[disney magic 06]

It's not any better at Disneyland either. Each time I rode it there a 30-35 minute wait, and it is not equipped with FP (none of the Fantasyland attractions at Disneyland utilize the FP system).

Nor is it any better at Disneyland Paris, last year we didn't even get on it most days.

 

[Timekeeper]

While I agree that FP's can create wild swings in the stand-by line, they would not be as insane if the FP's were restricted to their printed time window.

This has been discussed before. It would not be a good idea to restrict FPs to their specific time window. First, they are already restricted in the sense that a guest cannot return any earlier than the window time. Second, there are too many variables throughout the park that lead to a guest arriving later than the time window by no fault of their own. This includes posted stand-by wait times that are incorrect and take longer than what was posted, or foot traffic stoppage due to parades, unfamiliarity with travel time between parks via monorail or buses, etc. The die hard fans on this forum might be able to strategically plan their time accordingly and arrive within the time window, but not your average guest from all corners of the globe. Third, contrary to what some people would like to think, guests who arrive "late" do not all arrive as a mob at the same time. The "spot" of a FP guest who does not arrive within the time window does not mean that a ride vehicle is sent through empty in their place.

They don't have to make any major changes to the ride's basic storyline - just construct new ride vehicles, inject new technology that would make the midnight flight over London the equal of the flying scenes at Wizarding World, and replace all of the antique AA's with state-of-the-art AAs. PPF could be an amazing ride.

The PPF show building is quite small. What you see is what you get. that's why a lot of the characters are smaller in scale, with miniature sets, etc. The pirate ship even serves as the display for two scenes although it's one object cleverly separated by the sail. The HP attraction building, on the other hand, is absolutely huge.

Fastpass destroys the standby line for EVERY ride with Fastpass.

Yes, and this is disheartening. It's as if Disney came up with a system that they were so proud of that they decided to make it their primary method of queuing for an attraction, rather than have it be a supplemental method (with a more limited number of passes) for those guests who really wanted to make sure that they had the chance to see their top priority attraction.

 

[Victor Kelly]

fastpass needs to come out of that attraction. And why philharmagic has a fastpass is beyond me. Why not just do fastpasses for bathrooms next?

 

[Timekeeper]

... Why not just do fastpasses for bathrooms next?

It's not a matter of "if," but "when"

:ROFLOL:

 

[Slugger]

fastpass needs to come out of that attraction. And why philharmagic has a fastpass is beyond me. Why not just do fastpasses for bathrooms next?

Mickey's Philharmagic doesn't use the fastpass machines anymore. The fastpass machines in front of Philharmagic are used for Pooh now. During the morning hours a "surprise" fastpass is given out for Philharmagic when you get a fastpass for Peter Pan or Pooh.

 

[Uncle Lupe]

Fastpass destroys the standby line for EVERY ride with Fastpass.

Yes, I witnessed this first hand. When the FP riders are 3 and 4 to 1 stand by you screwed if you do not have a FP.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

I got in the standby line for PPF at 1:30 AM during EMH because I thought the line looked pretty short. The fastpass to standby ratio was about 10:1. That day, I swore to myself never to ride PPF without fastpass after the first half hour of park opening.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Actually it's just the opposite. Its popularity says "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."



But why would they feel the need to do any of that? It's massively populart in its Model T incarnation, and Disney doesn't like to spend any of its money as it is, so they certainly won't upgrade an attraction that pleases people in its current incarnation.

Yes, I see your point. However - it seems to me that Disney has something in place that could really enhance Fantasyland beyond the expansion: a ride that's incredibly popular in its current incarnation but which also has incredible potential for upgrading. And any investment in it could pay off very handsomely. There's no risk involved (since risk is such a scary scary word to the suits that run Disney nowadays ); the ride and concept have proven themselves already. Plussing Peter Pan seems to me much less risky than buying a one-hit (so far) wonder like Avatar which (I'm sorry, I can't help but point out the obvious, because it still ticks me off) isn't even a Disney product! That purchase by Iger sealed his image as just an acquirer, not a man with any kind of artistic or inventive vision. ANYWAY - it just seems to me a shame that Pan isn't even getting a major refurb. Just a new interactive queue. Whee!