News Park attendance showing significant softness heading into the Fall 2018

[iowamomof4]

So how might the (rumored) new pricing structure play out with all the news being reported in this thread? It makes no sense that on the heels of lower attendance they would throw gas on the fire with a significant price increase and/or major ticket pricing structure change that will make trips even more complicated.

We went in 2015 and 2016 and since then, I keep trying but haven't been able to afford the type of trip we would want to take (7+ days at a value resort). I know it's anecdotal, but maybe we aren't alone.

 

[RustySpork]

June 30th. Parks and Resorts up 6% from previous year globally. Not sure about WDW specifics. Next report is Nov 8th for quarter ending next week.

One word:

Spoiler

Shanghai!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So how might the (rumored) new pricing structure play out with all the news being reported in this thread? It makes no sense that on the heels of lower attendance they would throw gas on the fire with a significant price increase and/or major ticket pricing structure change that will make trips even more complicated.

We went in 2015 and 2016 and since then, I keep trying but haven't been able to afford the type of trip we would want to take (7+ days at a value resort). I know it's anecdotal, but maybe we aren't alone.

You aren’t alone...and you’re actually what all these discussions boil down to: have they exceeded prices that allow enough of a clientele to travel?

That’s what they have tinkered with and most of us wonder?


As far as would they increase prices? Sadly...they would and may.

The problem is that they make promises About rich new profits to their stockholders and brokers behind the scene...

The only way to deliver more people at higher prices...I don’t know where they think they’re gonna find them. But I’m beginning to think it’s out of the sky.

 

[eddie104]

One word:

Spoiler

Shanghai!

Which is good considering WDW is not the only Disney Park.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Which is good considering WDW is not the only Disney Park.

From a stock holder standpoint...the only disney parks are Orlando, Anaheim and paris

 

[Tick Tock]

One of the best things about the trip was how little we had to worry about what time it was. No worries about where we had to be at a certain time to eat or use a fp.

Stop doing vacations the way they were intended to be. You're making other people look bad.

 

[jt04]

From a stock holder standpoint...the only disney parks are Orlando, Anaheim and paris

Do some posters here post the breakdown for each resort? I do know attendance was up at WDW. And this quarter had TSL. So not seeing any doom. Or gloom.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Do some posters here post the breakdown for each resort? I do know attendance was up at WDW. And this quarter had TSL. So not seeing any doom. Or gloom.

Well do you want to talk about the spring/summer period (you just mentioned)? Or now?

The point I was making is that someone said Shanghai was “good for Disney”...
Not true for the parks and resorts numbers...becusee they don’t own it...technically.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Stop doing vacations the way they were intended to be. You're making other people look bad.

Some fool in the dwarf building won’t be able to assign a minute by minute profit value to you 180 days in advance...

 

[eddie104]

Well do you want to talk about the spring/summer period (you just mentioned)? Or now?

The point I was making is that someone said Shanghai was “good for Disney”...
Not true for the parks and resorts numbers...becusee they don’t own it...technically.

They still have a stake in it even though the China owns the majority of it.

 

[jt04]

Well do you want to talk about the spring/summer period (you just mentioned)? Or now?

The point I was making is that someone said Shanghai was “good for Disney”...
Not true for the parks and resorts numbers...becusee they don’t own it...technically.

I guess my point is, TDO has never been better. Especially the CMs.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I guess my point is, TDO has never been better. Especially the CMs.

That is pandora’s box...therefore we shouldn’t touch it.

I’ll give you credit for boldly going where no man has gone before...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They still have a stake in it even though the China owns the majority of it.

But it doesn’t makeup the parks and resorts segment...which has been called upon to make up for the declining television segment for 7 years....

It’s more like an elaborate licensing deal...
Not bad...but not the same.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You speak English but in an unrecognizable dialect. Therefore I have decided to place you on ignoble. Good day.

You can ignore me (which means you won’t read this...pity)

But Claiming things have never been better for Disney or the Employees is a wild claim that can’t be substantiated.

A stock price is one thing...rating employee satisfaction or quality is totally different. Disney employee happiness eclined greatly starting in the mid 90’s in Orlando and is likely never to recover. A $15 wage adjusted for inflation in 3 years will solve that?

You seem like yet another “millennial economist”...which goes hand in hand with lacking experience and wisdom around here. Too bad you’ll never read this...oh well

 

[jt04]

You can ignore me (which means you won’t read this...pity)

But Claiming things have never been better for Disney or the Employees is a wild claim that can’t be substantiated.

A stock price is one thing...rating employee satisfaction or quality is totally different. Disney employee happiness eclined greatly starting in the mid 90’s in Orlando and is likely never to recover. A $15 wage adjusted for inflation in 3 years will solve that?

You seem like yet another “millennial economist”...which goes hand in hand with lacking experience and wisdom around here. Too bad you’ll never read this...oh well

74?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

74?

Apparently so good you power through the “ignore” function.

Now I can speak plain: you know damn well that Disney employees are not “best” nor “happiest” now...hence my punning.

That was handled long ago with expansion of the labor pool and a streamlining of quality and experience in the greater economic framework for “service” jobs.

I believe you to know better. I won’t debate you on health of the quarterlies...but employees are way different.

 

[jt04]

You can ignore me (which means you won’t read this...pity)

But Claiming things have never been better for Disney or the Employees is a wild claim that can’t be substantiated.

A stock price is one thing...rating employee satisfaction or quality is totally different. Disney employee happiness eclined greatly starting in the mid 90’s in Orlando and is likely never to recover. A $15 wage adjusted for inflation in 3 years will solve that?

You seem like yet another “millennial economist”...which goes hand in hand with lacking experience and wisdom around here. Too bad you’ll never read this...oh well

I did that because I don't understand Trekkie. May the force be with you.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I did that because I don't understand Trekkie. May the force be with you.

One is definitely arrow up (giving the fans what they want for the health of the franchise)...one is arrow down.

I am fluent in both.

 

[monothingie]

Yes — true at times years ago — but never wknd only unless I blocked that out — right?

From now through the new year HEA is part time due to the parties. After New Years it doesn’t show when the park closes at 8, which is several dates in January and February. I could see them closing DHS and AK much earlier during these months to eliminate the need for ROL and F! Make them “indirect” cuts.

 

[disneyflush]

74?

You know perfectly well 74 isn't hiding under some other name. He isn't the only person willing to take the company to task for lowering their standards over the years. You used to be better than that.