Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights

sixbagelboy

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I'm very surprised Disney hasn't brought back the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights. As an AP I would go every year to see them at DHS and be amazed at the lines to buy park tickets 2 hours prior to park closing - Just to see the lights. The crowds to view the lights were beyond description and IMO the lights single handily changed DHS from a half day park to a full day park. Does anyone think the lights will ever return? And if you think they will return, do you think the lights will be in an area where Disney charges to view them?
 

JIMINYCR

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Disney had relegated them to the extinct pile and will not give them a place to return. For all of us who loved the show and how it contributed to our Christmas joy, they will be long remembered for the entertainment and unique experience they provided us over the years. RIP... Forever gone.
 

wdwfan22

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The lights are gone forever but never forgotten. To think we lost such an iconic part of WDW at Christmastime for Star Wars is truly one of the worst travesties at the resort, up there with losing the Great Movie Ride, in my opinion. Of course, I will give credit where it is due in the fact that Hollywood Studios became the best park at WDW for Christmas last year. Between Jingle Bell Jingle BAM (better than Holiday Wishes), the Sunset Seasons Greetings, the nice variety of holiday drinks and food, and stunning decor, it is THE place to be.

I have to disagree with you regarding Jingle Bell Jingle BAM. I was not impressed at all with that show. I would rather have the Star Wars show continue through the holiday season. I do enjoy Holiday Wishes and feel it does a better job as a seasonal fireworks show. It would be nice if the Studios could have something like Believe in Holiday Magic.
 

Raineman

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Saw a video on YouTube about the origin of the Osborne family lights, and the fact that it started so simple and ended up with the spectacle that was at DHS is pretty incredible. Kind of sad that I never got to experience it in person.
 

Gitson Shiggles

There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
I'm very surprised Disney hasn't brought back the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights. As an AP I would go every year to see them at DHS and be amazed at the lines to buy park tickets 2 hours prior to park closing - Just to see the lights. The crowds to view the lights were beyond description and IMO the lights single handily changed DHS from a half day park to a full day park. Does anyone think the lights will ever return? And if you think they will return, do you think the lights will be in an area where Disney charges to view them?

It won’t happen for multiple reasons.
Because Disney obviously had plans for the most recent place used.
Because Disney wants to play with projections more than practical lights for the time being.
Because the contract between the Osborne family and Disney was up.
Because other than accommodations at the Grand Floridian, the Osborne family did not ask for compensation...until the last contract was up.
 

Gitson Shiggles

There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
Saw a video on YouTube about the origin of the Osborne family lights, and the fact that it started so simple and ended up with the spectacle that was at DHS is pretty incredible. Kind of sad that I never got to experience it in person.

It was mind-blowing, unless you hate Christmas and/or light displays.
 

winstongator

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I went a little bit before it shut down. My mom wanted to go. She had taken my sister 20 years earlier and claimed I was there - I don't remember it. I didn't care either way, but am very glad that we did. That prompted me to make sure to catch the Main St. Electrical Parade before it ended in MK. We also saw one of the last shows of Wishes.
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FullSailDan

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A lot of the wall lights (non iconic) were trashed each year.

To add to this as a person who does a christmas light show every year:

Most of the lights used at Osbourne, whether led or not, were old-school "dumb" lights. Meaning they turned on/off and maybe changed colors or had pre-programmed chase/fade/etc sequences like you see on the strands you buy at a bigbox store. I could be wrong but I think the large canopy they did was smart lights, where we can program individual lights to be any shade of the rainbow and make patterns out of them.

Installs of dense dumb lights like that, you use large matrices or meshes and then connect them directly to controllers which make blinky flashy things happen. A patchwork of meshes are thrown up and hot glued down. (yes, hot glue is the secret used by the pros). Once attached to the building, power and data are spliced (soldered and shrinkwrapped for waterproofing) into the wires connecting the various meshes together. Its almost like sewing together a quilt, and it becomes a mess of wires.

Throughout the season, lots of lights stop working. Water, heat, bulbs, power surges, fuses blow, etc. Where possible you replace bulbs and fuses, but often you just don't have time. If the crowds show up at dusk and you've got half the show running you look like an idiot. So you cut out the areas that are problematic and splice in replacements. By the end of the season you have wires that look like Frankenstein was experimenting with. Tape, glue, solder, jumper wires, random fuses, buck converters, etc. all sticking off of it. You could try and save the wires, but honestly they'll rust over the year, and the cheap lights really don't hold up that well anyways.

During take down, a good pair of nippers and a heatgun become your friend. Snip the wires, use the heat gun to melt the glue and its gone.

Cut to today, and most of us are using smart LEDs that look like bullets or squares wired together. (Christmas nerds call them 'pixels') Pixels are more costly, usually 12-24 cents per light compared to about a cent or two per dumb bulb. But they last surprisingly long, they get coated in silicone to keep moisture out, and there is much less nightly maintenance that needs to go on and they don't really as many problems. (Except LED strip lights, those things will fail on 5 out of 6 dice rolls) An installer will definitely spend more time and money taking pixels down and can use them for many years.
 

LUVofDIS

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Of course, I will give credit where it is due in the fact that Hollywood Studios became the best park at WDW for Christmas last year. Between Jingle Bell Jingle BAM (better than Holiday Wishes), the Sunset Seasons Greetings, the nice variety of holiday drinks and food, and stunning decor, it is THE place to be.

I too disagree greatly with this. It is totally an opinion of course but for me nothing comes close to MK on a party night. JBJB is cool and we have seen it the last two years, but for me it is just okay. Wishes is still amazing plus the parade is second only to Boo-to-you. The characters, costumes and everyone wearing their most Christmas tackiest all equates to an amazing time for me. The atmosphere is just pure bliss.

Now the loss of the Osborne Lights was downright wrong, I will never forgive you Disney! They should be able to find some piece of land somewhere where all of us could still experience the glow of dancing lights with an awesome soundtrack. I want my light show, I want it now, that is I want it around Christmas.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
The lights are gone forever but never forgotten. To think we lost such an iconic part of WDW at Christmastime for Star Wars is truly one of the worst travesties at the resort, up there with losing the Great Movie Ride, in my opinion. Of course, I will give credit where it is due in the fact that Hollywood Studios became the best park at WDW for Christmas last year. Between Jingle Bell Jingle BAM (better than Holiday Wishes), the Sunset Seasons Greetings, the nice variety of holiday drinks and food, and stunning decor, it is THE place to be.
I’ll be curious to see JBJB this year. It was outstanding last year but they’ve neutered Star Wars AGS so much that I’m concerned JBJB will be similarly devoid of pyrotechnics. It was great last year.
 

epcotisbest

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Some of our fondest memories of WDW are of walking through Residential Street at Disney-MGM in the late 90s to mid 2000s just slowly taking it all in. It was fun searching for the hidden cat and hidden Mickeys too. Being able to walk Residential Street made it even more special, as during the day you only saw it by tram. I think our record was wandering through about four times in one evening.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Osborne Lights was a spectacle, but it was a bit... much. Sure, that's what made it a spectacle, but it lacked a bit of nuance or story.

JBJB was a good fill in for the "holidays". And then DHS kicked it up with the Echo Lake 50's decorations and then with Sunset Seasons Greetings. It makes it a fully decorated park.

And while not intentional, it'll be nice to see the Christmas lights in TSL.

And I can't wait to see Batuu celebrating Life Day.
 

TwilightZone

Well-Known Member
Osborne Lights was a spectacle, but it was a bit... much. Sure, that's what made it a spectacle, but it lacked a bit of nuance or story.

JBJB was a good fill in for the "holidays". And then DHS kicked it up with the Echo Lake 50's decorations and then with Sunset Seasons Greetings. It makes it a fully decorated park.

And while not intentional, it'll be nice to see the Christmas lights in TSL.

And I can't wait to see Batuu celebrating Life Day.
Ya never got the appeal of the lights. Maybe the reasoning being because I'm from the modern era where you can find similar shows from people's houses for free on the internet.
Once the internet was invented the show's main appeal died.
 

wendysue

Well-Known Member
Some of our fondest memories of WDW are of walking through Residential Street at Disney-MGM in the late 90s to mid 2000s just slowly taking it all in. It was fun searching for the hidden cat and hidden Mickeys too. Being able to walk Residential Street made it even more special, as during the day you only saw it by tram. I think our record was wandering through about four times in one evening.
Yep, this was magical. Now that all the good stuff is gone at HS, it won't be on our list to visit during our last trip to WDW.
 

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