Orlando Becoming East Coast Headquarters for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products

Ismael Flores

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Interesting they chose lake Nona while they already have office scape at celebration with what looks like another tower about the start construction. Possibly because Celebration can’t handle 2000 more families moving into it.
land was cheap and looks like the new new developing area has plenty of space for development. They have a medical system in place, master planned communities, school system along with great water front areas, new retail and dining and its right next to the airport making it an ideal area for executive positions.
 

el_super

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The problem will ultimately become the talent pool here.

Which is why they also seem to be focused on moving theme park jobs. Some of these jobs may be specific enough top parks operation that the talent pool is more developed in Florida than it would be elsewhere.
 

UNCgolf

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I know not the main topic of this thread but so true. I grew up in the suburbs of NYC and much of my family still lives in Manhattan - for years, everything else to them was unfathomable.

Even have some family friends who relocated to SF for a high-profile FAANG role. Made the most of it: bought a beautiful home and Tesla, went to lots of the top restaurants, explored amazing vineyards, etc. Hated it. Thought the whole city was dumpy and lacked interesting architecture. Also hated that people would dress down in restaurants rather than always look fashionable. To them, LA is just suburbs and Orlando is nothing.

Meanwhile, I really loved living in SF and am currently based near Irvine, which is also growing on me. I'd be open to Orlando if the cost of living stayed reasonable, but it seems like the last year has decreased the gap between desirable Florida spots and more reasonable options in SoCal.

Will be interesting to see if the 'return to work' decelerates the Sunbelt shift, or if people will remain set on Florida as an escape route from the likes of NY and CA. I know even my older sister (who was once a die-hard New Yorker) is open to South Florida now, and my dad was pleasantly surprised by Florida's Gulf Coast, so who really knows at this stage.

To all the Floridians dealing with an influx of New Yorkers, apologies.

Funnily enough, I find the architecture in LA far more interesting than the architecture in NYC. I like visiting both cities (would never want to live in either) but I like LA more.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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Funnily enough, I find the architecture in LA far more interesting than the architecture in NYC. I like visiting both cities (would never want to live in either) but I like LA more.
I do too. What I don't like in LA is the driving/parking to get anywhere (not like driving is great in NYC, but there are other options), and when you're surrounded by freeways & strip malls it can seem a bit desolate, but the food and highlights are world-class.

Orlando is definitely a step down there (it has beautiful pockets but amps up the freeway + strip mall concentration). Also the weather is a clear downgrade, barring a rough wildfire season for SoCal - it'll be interesting to see how much of the CA-based Disney Parks team is open to it.
 
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UNCgolf

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The NY to FL thing is real right now. We got about 12 offers in 2 days of our house being on the market and several were cash offers from the NE all with stupid price escalation clauses.

Meanwhile I’m not the only Floridian I know to be making the post COVID move out west. To be fair we did consider moving more coastal in FL but there really aren’t great job prospects, the state politics are…special, and climate change is hitting coastal Florida HARD already. I hate to see the flooding in Miami and Tampa in 10 years. Speaking of flooding.. many Orlando areas are beginning to realize they need additional retention zones as our quick afternoon showers have become more.. all day. Neighborhoods weren’t designed for those. It’ll be interesting to see how the water management strategy changes in FL the next decade.

There are also a ton of people from NY/NJ moving to North Carolina (Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham mostly), and also to the Myrtle Beach, SC and southeastern coastal NC area (although that's almost entirely retirees). They're building thousands and thousands of houses in that coastal area right now and selling them before the land is even cleared.
 

MorphinePrince

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There are also a ton of people from NY/NJ moving to North Carolina (Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham mostly), and also to the Myrtle Beach, SC and southeastern coastal NC area (although that's almost entirely retirees). They're building thousands and thousands of houses in that coastal area right now and selling them before the land is even cleared.
I live in southeast NC and you aren't kidding! It's crazy how fast that area is developing. There are places being built on that I never dreamed as a kid would see housing projects pop up.
 

UNCgolf

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I live in southeast NC and you aren't kidding! It's crazy how fast that area is developing. There are places being built on that I never dreamed as a kid would see housing projects pop up.

We have a family beach house at Ocean Isle. Was just there for a couple of weeks and even I was surprised by the amount of land clearing going on. 1000 houses going in here, 2000 going in here, etc.
 

cranbiz

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There are also a ton of people from NY/NJ moving to North Carolina (Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham mostly.

And I wish they were not. Or at least come here and blend in, keeping your NY/NJ ideas up there.

I spent 8 years in Durham, couldn't wait for the opportunity to move to a more friendly part of NC. I'm now in Rockingham County and it's night and day difference in the attitude of people and in the ideals.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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Funnily enough, I find the architecture in LA far more interesting than the architecture in NYC.
Me, too...

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JustInTime

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Probably not. At least for the near term, TDA is staying where it is, and the teams that work out of there are probably 70-80% focused on Disneyland exclusively. Moving teams around and consolidating them back at TDA will probably save them some money in office rentals around Anaheim in the near term, but if they decide to move TDA off property, it would still need to be adjacent to Disneyland.




Well in some respects a cube is a cube, whether it's at 1401 or some auxiliary building. The GC3 campus, which includes some parts of Imagineering, also include Consumer Products, publishing and some finance and legal groups as well. It does seem that there is some strategy at play here, in moving some theme park specific jobs to Florida, while re-utilizing expensive California real-estate for those businesses that have to remain in California. Content production at Disney is the focus now, and the best way to really describe it is: they are a streaming company that has a theme park business on the side.

While I definitely don't believe that there will be any real noticeable change in the parks for the guests, it definitely seems like another slide toward marginalizing the parks business.
I mean they could relocate other outside offices to one central building now that space will clear up. I have no idea if it’s possible but would be cool!
 

ctrlaltdel

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There are also a ton of people from NY/NJ moving to North Carolina (Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham mostly), and also to the Myrtle Beach, SC and southeastern coastal NC area (although that's almost entirely retirees). They're building thousands and thousands of houses in that coastal area right now and selling them before the land is even cleared.
Tons of boomers are retiring and taking their retirement/pensions (NYS has an awesome pension system, especially if you started working 30-40 years ago) down south (either part-time as snowbirds or full-time). See it all the time where I work with our retirees (NYS gov). The weather sucks up here for someone who is retired, much easier to be active down where it's warm most of if not all the year, and of course the taxes are much better.
 

UNCgolf

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I do too. What I don't like in LA is the driving/parking to get anywhere (not like driving is great in NYC, but there are other options), and when you're surrounded by freeways & strip malls it can seem a bit desolate, but the food and highlights are world-class.

Orlando is definitely a step down there (it has beautiful pockets but definitely amps up the freeway + strip mall concentration). Also the weather is a clear downgrade, barring a rough wildfire season for SoCal - it'll be interesting to see how much of the CA-based Disney Parks team is open to it.

I live in Atlanta (and grew up in a smaller medium size city), so the driving/parking to get anywhere is just normal for me. NYC is really an outlier among American cities in terms of easy public transit.

Regardless, that's one of the reasons I would never want to actually live in LA.
 

UNCgolf

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Tons of boomers are retiring and taking their retirement/pensions (NYS has an awesome pension system, especially if you started working 30-40 years ago) down south (either part-time as snowbirds or full-time). See it all the time where I work with our retirees (NYS gov). The weather sucks up here for someone who is retired, much easier to be active down where it's warm most of if not all the year, and of course the taxes are much better.

Plus, even though it's growing rapidly, the cost of real estate in southeastern coastal NC is miniscule compared to the NYC metro area and New Jersey. There are people who lived in a townhome or something similar in Jersey that they sell for 600k and buy a 3 bedroom home with a yard on a golf course for 250k and pocket the difference.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
real conversation is... why is Disney paying to move so many office workers and setting up new campus' while the traditional office space is dying?

Disney has never been known for good professional pay in FL.. I don't see that changing. While I'm sure it will feel good to flee CA overheads... it doesn't feel all that great for making your business stronger.
 

MorphinePrince

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Central FL is 10x better than CA. Much safer, less expensive and easier to do business.
Yes!! The central Florida area gets so much stupid irrational hate. I lived there for 5 years and loved every single minute of it! I relocated back to NC last year for a job opportunity, but I am counting down the days until I am back in Orlando...for good!!
 

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Central FL is 10x better than CA. Much safer, less expensive and easier to do business.
I feel the opposite. Likely, the people already choosing to live in SoCal do as well. Better weather, more variety of things to do, better weather, better schools and universities, better weather,better public services, and way, way better weather. I get why you wouldn’t want to incorporate a business there but it’s not better for employees who have already demonstrated a desire to live in Southern California.

People don’t like being told where to live!
 

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