'Once Upon A Time' projection show to replace Celebrate the Magic

[ford91exploder]

There will always be those people who try to find logic in Disney nickel and diming people while offering less!

There is logic in that behavior but it only makes sense (cents?) if you are a bean counter or denizen of Wall St, for a guest not so much...

 

[mickeyfan5534]

It should be an original show. Not a hand-me-down.

Disney Dreams Come True's soundtrack was also a "shipment from Tokyo". Didn't stop it from being a horrible parade.

Yeah but so was Share a Dream Come True which was almost the exact same parade. This is a 'new for us' show.

 

[VJ]

Yeah but so was Share a Dream Come True which was almost the exact same parade. This is a 'new for us' show.

EDIT: Sorry, misunderstood what you were saying. I just think MK deserves its own original nighttime spectacular and we shouldn't be so accepting of a copy.

 

[mouse_luv]

This sucks, the end.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

Share A Dream Come True Parade was completely brand-new and designed specifically for Magic Kingdom (and never replicated anywhere else). I'm just saying we shouldn't just take whatever we can get.

Would I have rather gotten a new show? Yes. But Once Upon a Time is absolutely wonderful with mostly lesser used IPs (Alice, Peter Pan, Pooh, and I'd even add in Snow White, Cinderella, and Beauty and the Beast not thrown together in a poorly constructed medley) that really doesn't fit the whole typical check the box nighttime format.

 

[VJ]

Would I have rather gotten a new show? Yes. But Once Upon a Time is absolutely wonderful with mostly lesser used IPs (Alice, Peter Pan, Pooh, and I'd even add in Snow White, Cinderella, and Beauty and the Beast not thrown together in a poorly constructed medley) that really doesn't fit the whole typical check the box nighttime format.

I can agree with that.

 

[wdwfan22]

I can't get over all the complaints over a new projection show. Celebrate the Magic wasn't anything spectacular. Just a bunch of clips thrown on the castle. Now you are getting a similar show with a more cohesive story line. We are not loosing anything and unless they make some dramatic change the new show won't include a 4 min FROZEN segment. It's a win in my book!

 

[Finallyinflorida]

Seems like Disney might think they can get away with this as a cheap replacement for a night time parade.

Agreed. I'll miss Celebrate the Magic, it certainly didn't seem like it needed to be replaced. It's still fun! We are passholders so we see it often and they do change it up a little during the year. Especially at Christmas.
I could see how they might think this seemingly easy, new addition will take people's minds off the fact that there is no parade now. Or at least tell themselves that.

 

[RSoxNo1]

First and foremost, Disney is a business. By definition that'd mean that their main goal is to be profitable and make as much money as they can, just like Universal or any other business. "Nickel and diming" people would be if they started taking the stuff that was once free and putting it behind a pay wall (such as taking away the parade and then say making it only during Extra Magic Hours, so you have to pay to stay on-site to see it). Removing a parade which, in all likelihood will eventually be replaced, is not nickel and diming. If they were to take Magic Express and Fastpasses and make you pay extra, THAT would be nickel and diming (funnily enough, Universal charges for both of those things, but guess what? That's not nickel and diming because those things were never free).

Businesses are supposed to make money? Thank you for that incredibly insightful and not at all condescending post.

Disney is absolutely nickel and diming when it comes to cuts. Things like premium hard ticketed events costs more and offer less. Hollywood Studios is down to 5 rides yet has a full day ticket cost. Prices at many restaurants have increased while portions have decreased. These are all text book definitions of nickel and diming. They are seeing what they can get away with and it's starting to hurt their bottom line.

That business model isn't sustainable.

 

[wdwfan22]

CTM was a major improvement over the tacky The Magic, The Memories, and You!

Yes I agree. I loved the idea of the original show, it just didn't deliver as far as being able to see the pictures clearly. I did like the soundtrack better then the reused Celebrate the Magic song which if I'm not mistaken also came from Tokyo Disneyland.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Ok so we literally get a shipment from Tokyo, widely regarded here as the pinnacle of Disney theme parks, and people moan and whine? There's just no satisfying you people.

They've done this before where they shipped off Cinderellabration.

The reason why the Tokyo parks are the "pinnacle of Disney theme parks" is the entire package. Transplanting a ride or show here or there is always nice, but it's a complete picture in Tokyo. A park like Tokyo DisneySea is incredible as a cohesive themed environment but that doesn't mean that if you take a single ride and transplant it across the world it makes the two areas equal.

By all means, evolve the projection show. I have no opposite there. Disney does these very well and while some in this thread may disagree, Celebrate the Magic wasn't a sacred show. The fact that this was inspired by the show in Tokyo (if not identical) is mostly irrelevant to the "pinnacle of Disney theme parks" argument.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Now if only Disney would copy another Tokyo nighttime spectacular to WDW....

Then you'd get people complaining that it's too much like the Main Street Electrical Parade, it's a never ending battle.

I suspect that discussions have taken place regarding the lack of a nighttime parade at MK. There is a capacity problem in WDW where MK is substantially more appealing than the other parks. I'm willing to bet that the internal discussion is that they hope Rivers of Light as well as nightly fireworks in DHS help spread those crowds. It's actually an argument that many on here have been making (indirectly). Add more to the other parks to spread the crowds. Unfortunately Disney is taking that to also mean, "subtract from MK".

 

[brb1006]

At least it won't contain a Frozen segment.

 

[RSoxNo1]

At least it won't contain a Frozen segment.

Why did you say that, now they have to go back to the drawing board.

 

[Next Big Thing]

At least it won't contain a Frozen segment.

Why did you say that, now they have to go back to the drawing board.

Actually, according to the Once Upon A Time wikipedia page (and youtube evidence), their "Holiday" version was simply to incorporate Frozen into the show...

 

[mickeyfan5534]

Actually, according to the Once Upon A Time wikipedia page (and youtube evidence), their "Holiday" version was simply to incorporate Frozen into the show...

It wasn't even a holiday segment it was for a Frozen event in the New Year.

 

[tl77]

Original Tokyo version has pyro.

I like that it uses the actual songs from the movies, I hope this what's coming to WDW... hope some of Tokyo's night parade comes to WDW as well

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I am surprised that while the nightime show is called Once upon a Time...Let's hope the fans don't get all uppity at the fact it's the Same name of said TV Show and it's not revolving around them....

 

[dreamscometrue]

Seems like Disney might think they can get away with this as a cheap replacement for a night time parade.

Nope. They changed from 'The Magic, The Memories and You' to 'Celebrate the Magic', and this is just another iteration of the castle projection show.

 

[mouse_luv]

I can't get over all the complaints over a new projection show. Celebrate the Magic wasn't anything spectacular. Just a bunch of clips thrown on the castle. Now you are getting a similar show with a more cohesive story line. We are not loosing anything and unless they make some dramatic change the new show won't include a 4 min FROZEN segment. It's a win in my book!

Then obviously you don't get it period. Celebrate the magic was more than projections thrown on the Castle, there was a somewhat loose storyline and there was no 4 min Frozen section there and def not for the entire run of the show. Yes, Frozen was there for the end of it's run but before that it was Brave etc. CTM had fantastic music and I loved that it included Pixar films as well and very creatively. I just watched the show that's coming on YouTube and bleh. I may watch it once and then enjoy the rides the rest of the time I'm there.

Not to mention, Angela Lansbury gets on my last nerve so there's another strike against this "new" show.