On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[BigThunderMatt]

That is probably true. I can only worry about my life and not the perception of neighbors lives ... that is their responsibility as an individual with opportunity. You just hope that leaders that are your employers make good decisions to make employment possible and tolerable. If not it is time to move on and can be a difficult decision.

That's all fine and dandy if Orlando weren't a black hole that's nearly impossible to get out of once you get sucked in. The ONLY reason I managed to escape from it was because my husband got an extremely lucrative job offer across the country that included a relocation reimbursement, in the state where my parents lived, and they had just happened to move into a much larger house in which they offered to let us move in temporarily while we got adjusted and have since moved into our own house. Something we never would have been able to do in Orlando. I now work for a university making 3 times what I made working at Disney.

There are far more cast members out there for whom the stars will never align like they did for my husband and I. It's either keep on trucking and hope for a break, suck up for a promotion that might never come (or wind up flailing in one of the never-ending talent pools Disney loves to utilize for people looking for upward momentum instead of just straight promotions), or put yourself out on a financial limb and hope you can survive a relocation and job switch on your own.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

There is a saying

Those who can, do, those who can't, teach..

And it has always been a silly saying.

The people who repeat it don't end up looking too bright themselves.

 

[Castmbr]

I did not know that once in Orlando you were a slave and sucked in.... I need to move NOW!

That's all fine and dandy if Orlando weren't a black hole that's nearly impossible to get out of once you get sucked in. The ONLY reason I managed to escape from it was because my husband got an extremely lucrative job offer across the country that included a relocation reimbursement, in the state where my parents lived, and they had just happened to move into a much larger house in which they offered to let us move in temporarily while we got adjusted and have since moved into our own house. Something we never would have been able to do in Orlando. I now work for a university making 3 times what I made working at Disney.

There are far more cast members out there for whom the stars will never align like they did for my husband and I. It's either keep on trucking and hope for a break, suck up for a promotion that might never come (or wind up flailing in one of the never-ending talent pools Disney loves to utilize for people looking for upward momentum instead of just straight promotions), or put yourself out on a financial limb and hope you can survive a relocation and job switch on your own.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's all fine and dandy if Orlando weren't a black hole that's nearly impossible to get out of once you get sucked in. The ONLY reason I managed to escape from it was because my husband got an extremely lucrative job offer across the country that included a relocation reimbursement, in the state where my parents lived, and they had just happened to move into a much larger house in which they offered to let us move in temporarily while we got adjusted and have since moved into our own house. Something we never would have been able to do in Orlando. I now work for a university making 3 times what I made working at Disney.

There are far more cast members out there for whom the stars will never align like they did for my husband and I. It's either keep on trucking and hope for a break, suck up for a promotion that might never come (or wind up flailing in one of the never-ending talent pools Disney loves to utilize for people looking for upward momentum instead of just straight promotions), or put yourself out on a financial limb and hope you can survive a relocation and job switch on your own.

Interesting...

Your story reads like you may have been a victim of “boomerang” syndrome. As in college program bounce back?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I did not know that once in Orlando you were a slave and sucked in.... I need to move NOW!

That depends on why you’re there and what your details are...frankly

 

[Castmbr]

That depends on why you’re there and what your details are...frankly

I just never knew that I could be a victim! LOL

 

[Brer Oswald]

This commercial shown on WDW TV at the various Walt Disney World Resorts and some stations in Florida comes to mind.

I remember when it was new. The water effects really bothered me for some reason.

 

[Lilofan]

And it has always been a silly saying.

The people who repeat it don't end up looking too bright themselves.

I've had professors in my classes when I was in school. Some one can easily tell that they would not last one week in the corporate business world so they teach..

Long time buy and hold stock investor

 

[mkt]

I just never knew that I could be a victim! LOL

We all are, of different things and of varying severities.

It's what you do with it that defines you.

 

[mkt]

Long time buy and hold stock investor

Same.

Although some recent day trades I've made have allowed me to have more padding for the incoming depression.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I just never knew that I could be a victim! LOL

There’s a long history in Orlando...it’s well documented

 

[brb1006]

Youtube is eating all of this content up...LOL

Plays video
Guy wearing glasses with a beard and baseball cap: "It's been a rough year for Disney."
Closes video

Also that thumbnail is something.

 

[mkt]

There’s a long history in Orlando...it’s well documented

You don't become the lowest wage major US city and the one with the most unaffordable housing (as a percent of income) in the US without doing some things terribly wrong.

 

[Castmbr]

Plays video
Guy with beard and baseball cap: "It's been a rough year for Disney."
Closes video

LOL... ok boomer

 

[Castmbr]

You don't become the lowest wage major US city and the one with the most unaffordable housing (as a percent of income) in the US without doing some things terribly wrong.

I know that is true Orlando is #77 on the affordability index out of 302 surveyed cities.... New York is bad too (#168) YIKES

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You don't become the lowest wage major US city and the one with the most unaffordable housing (as a percent of income) in the US without doing some things terribly wrong.

I don't really see that as a problem. The biggest hospitality city in the country is bound to be the lowest wage city because hospitality is the lowest wage industry.

I know we love our cast members but most of them make horrible life decisions.

 

[mkt]

I don't really see that as a problem. The biggest hospitality city in the country is bound to be the lowest wage city because hospitality is the lowest wage industry.

I know we love our cast members but most of them make horrible life decisions.

Vegas is a hospitality city, and people there earn a living wage..

 

[mkt]

I know that is true.... New York is bad too

Yep, but as a percentage of income, NYC is somehow more affordable than Orlando.

Hell, in Miami - 4 hours away from Orlando within the same state - I earn triple what I would have earned in Orlando for the exact same job. While paying less than double in rent.

 

[Dutch Inn '76]

The other piece is overpricing that undercuts the core market and timidity in domestic investment.

And those chickens are walking down the road towards the mailbox as we speak

That is 100% true.

I've heard folks just a little down the economic ladder from me refer to a WDW trip as a "once in a lifetime vacation." It's crazy that middle class folks have to budget that way for WDW now. Crazy and prolly not good for The Mouse.

 

[Castmbr]

Vegas is a hospitality city, and people there earn a living wage..

Vegas is #192 out of 302 in affordability. I guess it depends on the job you have just like all situations

I like data to back up opinion so...:

Housing Affordability Burden For U.S. Cities

Housing and income data show cities with low housing affordability.

www.governing.com