On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

Castmbr

Active Member
You don't become the lowest wage major US city and the one with the most unaffordable housing (as a percent of income) in the US without doing some things terribly wrong.

I know that is true Orlando is #77 on the affordability index out of 302 surveyed cities.... New York is bad too (#168) YIKES
 
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CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
You don't become the lowest wage major US city and the one with the most unaffordable housing (as a percent of income) in the US without doing some things terribly wrong.
I don't really see that as a problem. The biggest hospitality city in the country is bound to be the lowest wage city because hospitality is the lowest wage industry.

I know we love our cast members but most of them make horrible life decisions.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
I don't really see that as a problem. The biggest hospitality city in the country is bound to be the lowest wage city because hospitality is the lowest wage industry.

I know we love our cast members but most of them make horrible life decisions.

Vegas is a hospitality city, and people there earn a living wage..
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
I know that is true.... New York is bad too

Yep, but as a percentage of income, NYC is somehow more affordable than Orlando.

Hell, in Miami - 4 hours away from Orlando within the same state - I earn triple what I would have earned in Orlando for the exact same job. While paying less than double in rent.
 

Dutch Inn '76

Well-Known Member
The other piece is overpricing that undercuts the core market and timidity in domestic investment.

And those chickens are walking down the road towards the mailbox as we speak

That is 100% true.

I've heard folks just a little down the economic ladder from me refer to a WDW trip as a "once in a lifetime vacation." It's crazy that middle class folks have to budget that way for WDW now. Crazy and prolly not good for The Mouse.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Vegas is a hospitality city, and people there earn a living wage..
The waiters and waitresses at WDW TS dining locations earn a living wage too. Vegas isn't swarming with glorified carnival ride operators.

Disney needs to be expanding the CP model, not eliminating it. No grown adult should be running a theme park ride for a "career" but people are desperate to work for Disney.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
I've had professors in my classes when I was in school. Some one can easily tell that they would not last one week in the corporate business world so they teach..

Long time buy and hold stock investor👍
And an autodidact who home schools, I see.

Fair play to you.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
The waiters and waitresses at WDW TS dining locations earn a living wage too. Vegas isn't swarming with glorified carnival ride operators.

Disney needs to be expanding the CP model, not eliminating it. No grown *** adult should be running a theme park ride for a "career" but people are desperate to work for Disney.
This is sad truth. You can do it, if you are going to live within tight means for .let people and likely to never be self sustainable. I also think performers often get paid too much. There may be a shift of that as well.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I will say, though, that we can't complain too much about customer service at WDW if they rely on people who make horrible life decisions to staff the place.
As I said, we need more CPs and retirees. Fewer college graduates with student loan debt or mid-career people who quit their real jobs after a divorce and moved to their happy place for the sake of a blue pass and a 20% merch discount.
 

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