On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

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DVCakaCarlF

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MrPromey said:
Dumb? What are the alternatives you suggest for a semi-local with an AP going with kids? Lose a few hours of the day leaving property and coming back? Packing uncrustables? Start booking ADRs half a year in advance randomly to deal with that mess?

I'd be happy to spend more time at the better restaurants but they've made that hard to the point of nearly impossible over the last decade or so for anyone not making lunch/dinner plans half a year ahead of time.
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No, I agree, cause I have kids, too. I also agree it’s hard to get ADRs, in general.

I’m saying too many people miss out on better alternatives because they can’t see past Starbucks.
 
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DVCakaCarlF

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TrainChasers said:
Starbucks are virtually the same price in or out of the Disney parks. Obviously part of the Starbucks agreement because you know Disney would have doubled the prices by now if they could!

“Fast food” - you mean counter service?
I’m not sure where off property I can get wood-fired salmon and potatoes and a bottle of water for $8.
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Where is that?
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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DVCakaCarlF said:
No, I agree, cause I have kids, too. I also agree it’s hard to get ADRs, in general.

I’m saying too many people miss out on better alternatives because they can’t see past Starbucks.
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Good point.

Also sorry guys - I don't know how I ended dying on the hill of bad fast-service food at the parks in a thread about the current state of affairs in general. I swear that wasn't my intent! :oops:
 
MisterPenguin

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Brer Oswald said:
When was Iger supposed to retire originally? 2016? Bet he’ll wish he did after all this. He won’t be able to avoid the negative stigma Eisner had on the back end of his legacy.
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His new term which he stepped down up into is Executive Chair of the Board, which goes to December of 2021.

So, if one beats the drum that Iger is on the way out, one will be correct in about 17 months from now.
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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MisterPenguin said:
His new term which he stepped down up into is Executive Chair of the Board, which goes to December of 2021.

So, if one beats the drum that Iger is on the way out, one will be correct in about 17 months from now.
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No I mean when he originally intended to step down. Initially it was before SWGE was to open. Then postponed till it opened. Then postponed after that.

I think he was content with leaving a legacy with the Marvel and Star Wars acquisitions. But the investors wanted him to stay. He did. His ego was stroked. Got them to purchase Fox. He keeps spending, and now the investors want him out?

If true, the saying “you either die a hero or live long enough to become to villain” seems to be appropriate for his legacy. And for a man who cares so much about legacy, this is going to be interesting to observe. We’ll see.
 
Askimosita

Askimosita

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oceanbreeze77 said:
Do you think theme parks regret opening up when they did? It seems to have just put them into a deeper hole than when they were closed.
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According to the earnings call for Universal, they are worse in attendance from last summer (not a surprise) but that they are doing better financially than if they were to have stayed closed. TWDC has their earnings on Aug 4, so we will see!
 
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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oceanbreeze77 said:
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Sad, but not surprising. I wonder if any leaders are regretting their decision to not furlough back in March and keeping everyone on. It was admirable, but those employees could've received unemployment+ at the time (state unemployment + $600/week) and now would've had some job security as opposed to being laid off after the extra benefits have vanished. Seems like a lose/lose for those employees.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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pheneix said:
On how much the NBA is subsidizing WDW ops, the bill Disney is presenting is about $1.5 million a day. That's...... not a lot of money.

sports.yahoo.com

Here's the massive price tag the NBA is reportedly paying to play its season at Disney World

Three resorts, the ESPN Wide World of Sports complex and the employees of those properties don't come cheap.
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It could be argued that Bob Iger is using company resources to broker money losing deals with the NBA. The bet is Disney will make the losses back in TV ad revenue. The odds on that much cash coming in..... not good. Won't be the first time Disney lost a bunch of money on the NBA in Orlando.

For certain: Bob Iger's "friendship" with Adam Silver will continue to be cultivated.
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$1.5 mil a day is peanuts compared to what the resort typically brings in. For perspective, if EPCOT only received gate admissions for their attendance (using a 1 day ticket price) and no other revenue they'd get $3.5 million a day from that alone. I'm guessing the average Disney guests probably gives Disney $200-300 a day when you consider hotel, food, merch and ticket sales.
 
TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives

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RSoxNo1 said:
$1.5 mil a day is peanuts compared to what the resort typically brings in. For perspective, if EPCOT only received gate admissions for their attendance (using a 1 day ticket price) and no other revenue they'd get $3.5 million a day from that alone. I'm guessing the average Disney guests probably gives Disney $200-300 a day when you consider hotel, food, merch and ticket sales.
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I imagine staffing for the NBA's $1.5 million/day is significantly less than the staffing needed for EPCOT and the $3.5 million in revenue.
 

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