Old TTA Audio

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Bring Back Mr Johnson in Sky View Hovercraft 1.. I need to be sure everything still looks perfect on tommorowlands super highways.

 

[cassiedoodle]

Bring Back Mr Johnson in Sky View Hovercraft 1.. I need to be sure everything still looks perfect on tommorowlands super highways.

My thoughts exactly!!!! :ROFLOL:

 

[redfarmer06]

The new TTA narration is the amusement park equivalent of a war crime. So awful. So uninspired. So blatantly commercial. So poorly executed with Mr. Wimpy Voice, that (I've said it before) I utterly refuse to allow my family to buy souvenirs at Magic Kingdom because of it.

As I've also said before, it should be easy to switch back. It's not like concrete has to be ripped out. The old one was fun, whimsical, transporting. The new blecch vomitty version is an indication that a demon has infiltrated MK and victimized the throngs with utterly unimaginative mediocrity. Perhaps, indeed, the apocalypse looms on the horizon.

It's not a demon...it's an Overtaker... :lookaroun

 

[Oddysey]

I don't get this. The original narration was similar to the one used today correct? If the answer is yes, then everyone complained about TTA and how that killed the original idea of the ride. Now with the current version a version of the original, everyone is complaining about how it isn't TTA. I don't get it.

You are not the first to mention this so I would like to ask you a serious question. Who was complaining when the original narration was replaced with the tommorowland 94' narration? You say that everyone was complaining and everyone accounts for a significant portion of Disney fans. Actually, everyone accounts for all Disney fans.

This forum was not even online when the narration was changed. In fact, a large number of the general population didnt even know the internet exsisted when the narration was changed. Where did you go to find out that everyone was complaining?

I personally find it hard to believe that the majority of Disney prefered the old "tour of Tommorowland" narration to the grand theming of the 94' narration. I am sure there was a small group that did not appreciate the change because there always is, but where did you get your information?

 

[montyz81]

You are not the first to mention this so I would like to ask you a serious question. Who was complaining when the original narration was replaced with the tommorowland 94' narration? You say that everyone was complaining and everyone accounts for a significant portion of Disney fans. Actually, everyone accounts for all Disney fans.

This forum was not even online when the narration was changed. In fact, a large number of the general population didnt even know the internet exsisted when the narration was changed. Where did you go to find out that everyone was complaining?

I personally find it hard to believe that the majority of Disney prefered the old "tour of Tommorowland" narration to the grand theming of the 94' narration. I am sure there was a small group that did not appreciate the change because there always is, but where did you get your information?

I have no examples to back it up. I just remember reading complaints about TTA when it was changed to Peoplemover narration a year or so ago. I was trying to make a point that it never seems like everyone is 100% happy with anything that TDO does with Orlando. I always get a sense that Anaheim is always better then Orlando, when in fact there is so much more to enjoy in Orlando. I will bow out on this one since I really can't back it up, it was more a sense I got anyway. I guess I should have checked my bad mood at the WDWMagic virtual door!

 

[disnyfan89]

You are not the first to mention this so I would like to ask you a serious question. Who was complaining when the original narration was replaced with the tommorowland 94' narration? You say that everyone was complaining and everyone accounts for a significant portion of Disney fans. Actually, everyone accounts for all Disney fans.

This forum was not even online when the narration was changed. In fact, a large number of the general population didnt even know the internet exsisted when the narration was changed. Where did you go to find out that everyone was complaining?

I personally find it hard to believe that the majority of Disney prefered the old "tour of Tommorowland" narration to the grand theming of the 94' narration. I am sure there was a small group that did not appreciate the change because there always is, but where did you get your information?

I think they where referring to when the 94 narration was changed to it's current version. It's the traditional argument that this track better reflects the original and the original was fine when the park first opened so why shouldn't it be like that now. Hope that helps clear up the confusion. :wave:

 

[wm49rs]

The new TTA narration is the amusement park equivalent of a war crime. So awful. So uninspired. So blatantly commercial. So poorly executed with Mr. Wimpy Voice, that (I've said it before) I utterly refuse to allow my family to buy souvenirs at Magic Kingdom because of it.

As I've also said before, it should be easy to switch back. It's not like concrete has to be ripped out. The old one was fun, whimsical, transporting. The new blecch vomitty version is an indication that a demon has infiltrated MK and victimized the throngs with utterly unimaginative mediocrity. Perhaps, indeed, the apocalypse looms on the horizon.

Yeah, that sort of sentiment would definitely get Disney to sit up and take notice.....

 

[nepalostparks]

The new TTA narration is the amusement park equivalent of a war crime. So awful. So uninspired. So blatantly commercial. So poorly executed with Mr. Wimpy Voice, that (I've said it before) I utterly refuse to allow my family to buy souvenirs at Magic Kingdom because of it.

As I've also said before, it should be easy to switch back. It's not like concrete has to be ripped out. The old one was fun, whimsical, transporting. The new blecch vomitty version is an indication that a demon has infiltrated MK and victimized the throngs with utterly unimaginative mediocrity. Perhaps, indeed, the apocalypse looms on the horizon.

:ROFLOL:

Thanks for the laugh, that's a good one. :lol:

 

[Ralphlaw]

Bad decisions that touch thousands of people need to be called out. Million dollar athletes who mail it in instead of trying hard, corporate executives who get lazy and ruin companies (and jobs), parents who are too lazy to guide their kids (who end up in prison), and teachers who coast into retirement instead of inspiring young students (who then become academically crippled), are worthy of harsh criticism.

The new TTA narration is an example of utter failure: Mediocre, overly-commercial, wimpy, utterly devoid of imagination. It took the place of something good, like Umbridge replacing Dumbledore. No, people won't die, but they'll be disappointed in their once a year (perhaps once in a lifetime) Disney vacation that they anticipated and saved up for for a very long time. Yes, it's only one part of one relatively minor attraction, but it is so objectively bad that absolutely no one with half a brain would see this as an upgrade. If a decision like this can be made, what other mediocrities will be allowed? Replace Splash Mountain with a drinking fountain? Bore two holes into Spaceship Earth and change it into A Salute to Bowling?

I fear that wimpy, committeed, over commercialized, unimaginative travesties like this may become the norm. If so, Disney will slide.

 

[Oddysey]

I think they where referring to when the 94 narration was changed to it's current version.

No they were not.

It's the traditional argument that this track better reflects the original and the original was fine when the park first opened so why shouldn't it be like that now. Hope that helps clear up the confusion. :wave:

Flight to the moon was fine when the park first opened so why isnt it fine now? In other words, the traditional argument is a very poor argument. The fact is the parks must evolve overtime.

Sometimes Disney makes good decisions when freshening the parks. Just to name a couple the 2007 Haunted Mansion upgrades or the change from the original TTA narration to the 94' narration were positive improvements. However, like any company, Disney sometimes makes poor decisions when trying to evolve. These decisions include the demolition of AE for Stitch and the decision to use a less immersive narration for the TTA.

Of course a good decision and a poor decision when it comes to updating an attraction is always a matter of opinion, and Disney will never be able to make everyone happy. Ultimately, if a person complains about a change that Disney makes on a particular attraction it does not mean that the person thinks every change that Disney makes is a poor decision, and it sounds like Monty was trying to make the point that everyone complains about any change just for the sake of complaining. That is simply not the case.

 

[wm49rs]

Bad decisions that touch thousands of people need to be called out. Million dollar athletes who mail it in instead of trying hard, corporate executives who get lazy and ruin companies (and jobs), parents who are too lazy to guide their kids (who end up in prison), and teachers who coast into retirement instead of inspiring young students (who then become academically crippled), are worthy of harsh criticism.

The new TTA narration is an example of utter failure: Mediocre, overly-commercial, wimpy, utterly devoid of imagination. It took the place of something good, like Umbridge replacing Dumbledore. No, people won't die, but they'll be disappointed in their once a year (perhaps once in a lifetime) Disney vacation that they anticipated and saved up for for a very long time. Yes, it's only one part of one relatively minor attraction, but it is so objectively bad that absolutely no one with half a brain would see this as an upgrade. If a decision like this can be made, what other mediocrities will be allowed? Replace Splash Mountain with a drinking fountain? Bore two holes into Spaceship Earth and change it into A Salute to Bowling?

I fear that wimpy, committeed, over commercialized, unimaginative travesties like this may become the norm. If so, Disney will slide.

I'm fairly certain the narration on the TTA will not mean the ruination of anyone's visit to WDW. Then again, I may be in the minority here; I don't believe the change was akin to any sort of war crimes either.....:shrug:

 

[SeaCastle]

The new TTA narration is the amusement park equivalent of a war crime. So awful. So uninspired. So blatantly commercial. So poorly executed with Mr. Wimpy Voice, that (I've said it before) I utterly refuse to allow my family to buy souvenirs at Magic Kingdom because of it.

As I've also said before, it should be easy to switch back. It's not like concrete has to be ripped out. The old one was fun, whimsical, transporting. The new blecch vomitty version is an indication that a demon has infiltrated MK and victimized the throngs with utterly unimaginative mediocrity. Perhaps, indeed, the apocalypse looms on the horizon.

Have you listened to the original PeopleMoverspiel? It was much more akin to the current "war crime" version than the 1994 "city" version.

 

[marni1971]

You are not the first to mention this so I would like to ask you a serious question. Who was complaining when the original narration was replaced with the tommorowland 94' narration?

94 saw the second (ORAC-1) narration replaced. Wagner did the original until 1985.

Sorry, picky I know. Me and my history...

 

[Ralphlaw]

I'm fairly certain the narration on the TTA will not mean the ruination of anyone's visit to WDW. Then again, I may be in the minority here; I don't believe the change was akin to any sort of war crimes either.....:shrug:

Of course not, but it was a very bad, unnecesary change. It won't ruin anything, except my mood for a few minutes every visit. Disney's job is to delight the visitors. This doesn't do that. In fact, it replaced something that objectively did do that. It can also be undone. Everyone who goes to work makes mistakes, and we all want to have them back. Disney can do that right here, but they aren't. That is endemic of a sickness within a company, similar to a cheap strobe light on a multi-million dollar yeti for five years, but that's another crime.

My "War crimes" comment says that it is "the amusement park equivalent" of a war crime, not a war crime itself. War crimes, as you know, are horrific violations of the usual expectations of war. Intentionally killing defenseless POW's (in order to free up securty guards and save food) is a war crime because defenseless people in custody should not be arbitrarily mowed down even though bombing, shooting, etc . . is already killing huge numbers of people in ways that are expected. The benefit (security guards and food) does not justify the unexpected horror (killing defenseless people).

An amusement park equivalent to a war crime is a systematic extermination of something delightful with something bad, perhaps to sell more merch. Either way, the ends (more merch sales) do not justify the means (a lousy narration). Downers to any Disney visit such as crowds, lines, and occasional bad weather, are expected. Lousy narration replacing good narration is not expected.

Such a phrase also gets the discussion going, and creates an impression. "Wow, some guy called this narration a war crime. Is it really that bad? I've got to hear it." I stand by my description.

 

[Oddysey]

94 saw the second (ORAC-1) narration replaced. Wagner did the original until 1985.

Sorry, picky I know. Me and my history...

Ok, let me restate the following. The third narration or 94' narration was more immersive experience in my opinion. One can always count on you to keep everyone on their toes when it comes to getting their facts straight :wave:

 

[wm49rs]

Of course not, but it was a very bad, unnecesary change. It won't ruin anything, except my mood for a few minutes every visit. Disney's job is to delight the visitors. This doesn't do that. In fact, it replaced something that objectively did do that. It can also be undone. Everyone who goes to work makes mistakes, and we all want to have them back. Disney can do that right here, but they aren't. That is endemic of a sickness within a company.

My "War crimes" comment says that it is "the amusement park equivalent" of a war crime, not a war crime itself. War crimes, as you know, are horrific violations of the usual expectations of war. Intentionally killing defenseless POW's (in order to free up securty guards and save food) is a war crime because defenseless people in custody should not be arbitrarily mowed down even though bombing, shooting, etc . . is already killing huge numbers of people in ways that are expected. The benefit (security guards and food) does not justify the unexpected horror (killing defenseless people).

An amusement park equivalent to a war crime is a systematic extermination of something delightful with something bad, perhaps to sell more merch. Either way, the ends (more merch sales) do not justify the means (a lousy narration). Downers to any Disney visit such as crowds, lines, and occasional bad weather, are expected. Lousy narration replacing good narration is not expected.

Such a phrase also gets the discussion going, and creates an impression. "Wow, some guy called this narration a war crime. Is it really that bad? I've got to hear it." I stand by my description.

I'm not sure using "war crimes" in any discussion (outside of the actual events themselves) creates any sort of impression save one that some WDW fans are outside the pale, and should be ignored by Disney.

 

[aladdin2007]

I wish they would learn if its not broke dont fix it,,yet the things that are broken they dont fix. :brick:

 

[alphac2005]

I don't get this. The original narration was similar to the one used today correct? If the answer is yes, then everyone complained about TTA and how that killed the original idea of the ride. Now with the current version a version of the original, everyone is complaining about how it isn't TTA. I don't get it.

Thank you. I'm with you not being able to figure it out here. The new narration is very much like the original. It seems like there's an endless vault of complaining about everything.

 

[Oddysey]

Thank you. I'm with you not being able to figure it out here. The new narration is very much like the original. It seems like there's an endless vault of complaining about everything.

Really? How often do you hear complaints about the 2007 updates to the mansion? How many people complain that Food Rocks was superior to its replacement in Soarin? How many people do you here complain about the extinction of the show in tommorowland where people interacted with Stitch using a video screen? How many people do you hear complain about the extinction of Mission to Mars? How many complain about the replacement of Micky Mouse Revue with the current Philhar Magic (Martin I know there where other shows in between).

The list could go on, but the fact is there are very few complaints about these things. Thats because when Disney does something well there are not many complaints. When Disney does something poorly there are more complaints. Just because something is the original (as evidenced by a couple examples on the above list) it does not make it the best iteration.

 

[marni1971]

Ok, let me restate the following. The third narration or 94' narration was more immersive experience in my opinion. One can always count on you to keep everyone on their toes when it comes to getting their facts straight :wave:

I'm sorry... It's a cross I have to bear... :wave: