Would also need two bridges between MK and Grand Floridian but I agree. Walking to MK from GF and Poly should be an option.
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OK, what could Disney do in the parks that you would actually like?
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yedliW
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It would be quite a hike from Poly to MK, but it would be nice to have a path between Poly and GF. Last time we stayed at Poly, I got on a bus that I swear said it was going to Poly and GF, but only went to GF.. the only way to get back to Poly was to get on the monorail and ride it all the way around back to Poly..
Heppenheimer
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I don't know why the Grand Floridian isn't connected. The only obstacle is that any bridge over the canal closest to the Magic Kingdom would need to sit high enough to accommodate the floats of the Electric Water Parade.
I can think of three reasons why they might not want to connect all of the resorts around the lagoon, though. One, cost without any obvious revenue benefit. Two, it's my understanding that they still hope one day to build something in the empty space between the Contemporary and the Transportation and Ticket Center. The current ground conditions are not stable enough, however (hence, the reason the old Mediterranean Resort idea died), but they're keeping the option open in case new building techniques ever make construction there feasible (or so I've pieced together from various Youtube videos, so take that with a big grain of salt). And finally, I've noticed that Disney doesn't seem too keen on allowing people to wander around in generally unsupervised areas, probably for liability reasons. Most of the resorts aren't really accessible to each other by foot or bicycle. The one unsupervised foot path between resorts that I've seen (between the Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness) seems to have a sign every few feet instructing you not to leave the path or touch anything.
NickMaio
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Hey - this thread is not for you.
SteveBrickNJ
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I very much second the part about getting up early to stress over obtaining the best possible fast passes. I hated that pressure....I wanted to do the best possible job for my family. It worked out reasonably well because I asked questions on wdwmagic forums and prepared. Yet the old days when you showed up to the park and handled FPs on the fly was MUCH less pressure!To me, making planning for a Disney vacation, enjoyable again.
I understand that the crowds have grown, but for example:
If I really want to eat at a specific place, I need to know 6 months in advance what I'll be in the mood for on a specific day! Also getting up so early in the morning to get Fastpasses and stress over getting what I want.
Planning a vacation should be fun!
I always wonder what I'll do when (and "if") I become a senior and the process becomes too complicated for me to handle, also, I foresee becoming less knowledgeable of technology.
As for the rest, I enjoy my visits and look forward to try new experiences. Once there, I make the most of it!
NickMaio
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Bring back value for money - - -
Stop the extra paying for services that used to be free.
I yearn for a night parade - - - - With fantastical music.
Clean the parks up, especially MK. If you can let x number of people in you should be able to clean up after them so quick that others don't notice the mess.
Stop the extra paying for services that used to be free.
I yearn for a night parade - - - - With fantastical music.
Clean the parks up, especially MK. If you can let x number of people in you should be able to clean up after them so quick that others don't notice the mess.
NickPytlinski
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NickPytlinski
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bring back WISHES!
Heppenheimer
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There seems to be a path from the Magic Kingdom in that direction that dead-ends... so, maybe?
RandySavage
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Much more important than any specific physical additions/changes, would be for the Disney company to remember & refocus on a few major Guiding Principles which have been forgotten and discarded.
1. Boldly Strive to Be the Innovator, Originator & Standard Setter in the Art of Theme Parks & Resorts. Chapek recently disclosed his personal philosophy, paraphrased: "We do XYZ because it is exactly what our competitors would do if they were in our position...." Saddened me to hear that out of the mouth of Disney's leader. This strategy has become apparent on many levels both Macro (generic, mundanely-designed mid-rise hotels; massive exposed showbuildings placed front & center of guest view with a "distractor element" placed in nearby) and Micro (harsh LED bulbs; generic exit signs; cast costuming; fast-food digital menu displays; etc., etc.). DisneyToday: This is the standard our competitors are setting, so we should adhere.
And because the competition is focused IP-associated development, that is exactly what Chapek/Iger's Disney must do (by their philosophy). IP and nothing else. Creating something like 1980s EPCOT Center (which strove to enrich and enlighten as well as entertain and was as far removed from an amusement park as the current industry has ever gone) is so completely out of the wheelhouse of current leadership, it would be like asking 12th century engineers to create a moon landing rocket.
So I'd like to see each park stick to and strengthen its core identity (e.g., having properties like Beauty & the Beast in three different parks begins to blur the thematic lines and moves WDW's unique assets towards a homogenous OneDisneyPark (tm).).
Think beyond just "Ride the Movies" (keep that in your Studios park). Explore uncharted story-telling territory. Advance what a theme park can be.
2. Show Quality and Guest Experience Prioritized over Money-Grabbing/Exec Bonus-Triggering. This would not only apply to all the extra fees ("We now charge for hotel parking, why?, because all our competitors do it!"), stadium pricing and a general "we're fleecing you!" feeling, but also to cuts in maintenance & upkeep, cast-quality; live entertainment. Not every square foot of the parks should be seen as required to generate revenue. More unique, theme-appropriate merchandising & dining (Potter & Star Wars can remind Disney of how they used to do it before many can remember). Fewer ODV carts. Reign in over-lawyereering, in areas like lighting levels, curb-stomping, and integrating OSHA required safety elements.
Put in Leadership who understand the Vision and are champions of quality. Not run-of-the-mill management, operating and developing the Parks & Resorts "the way our competitors would if they were in our place".
1. Boldly Strive to Be the Innovator, Originator & Standard Setter in the Art of Theme Parks & Resorts. Chapek recently disclosed his personal philosophy, paraphrased: "We do XYZ because it is exactly what our competitors would do if they were in our position...." Saddened me to hear that out of the mouth of Disney's leader. This strategy has become apparent on many levels both Macro (generic, mundanely-designed mid-rise hotels; massive exposed showbuildings placed front & center of guest view with a "distractor element" placed in nearby) and Micro (harsh LED bulbs; generic exit signs; cast costuming; fast-food digital menu displays; etc., etc.). DisneyToday: This is the standard our competitors are setting, so we should adhere.
And because the competition is focused IP-associated development, that is exactly what Chapek/Iger's Disney must do (by their philosophy). IP and nothing else. Creating something like 1980s EPCOT Center (which strove to enrich and enlighten as well as entertain and was as far removed from an amusement park as the current industry has ever gone) is so completely out of the wheelhouse of current leadership, it would be like asking 12th century engineers to create a moon landing rocket.
So I'd like to see each park stick to and strengthen its core identity (e.g., having properties like Beauty & the Beast in three different parks begins to blur the thematic lines and moves WDW's unique assets towards a homogenous OneDisneyPark (tm).).
Think beyond just "Ride the Movies" (keep that in your Studios park). Explore uncharted story-telling territory. Advance what a theme park can be.
2. Show Quality and Guest Experience Prioritized over Money-Grabbing/Exec Bonus-Triggering. This would not only apply to all the extra fees ("We now charge for hotel parking, why?, because all our competitors do it!"), stadium pricing and a general "we're fleecing you!" feeling, but also to cuts in maintenance & upkeep, cast-quality; live entertainment. Not every square foot of the parks should be seen as required to generate revenue. More unique, theme-appropriate merchandising & dining (Potter & Star Wars can remind Disney of how they used to do it before many can remember). Fewer ODV carts. Reign in over-lawyereering, in areas like lighting levels, curb-stomping, and integrating OSHA required safety elements.
Put in Leadership who understand the Vision and are champions of quality. Not run-of-the-mill management, operating and developing the Parks & Resorts "the way our competitors would if they were in our place".
danyoung56
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Yes, you're dreaming this. That path has always been interrupted by the canal where the Light floats sleep.
Heppenheimer
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From the ground view, I had always assumed this was a connecting path to the Grand Floridian until Google Earth showed me otherwise. Can guests walk along this path or is it closed off beyond the monorail station?
I am pretty positive you can walk from GF to the POLY
danyoung56
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I've never had the energy to try, but I'd guess that the walkway is still open.
FamilyCallsMeWalt
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I don't like the skyliner for a big reason. If I am trying to stay at the Yacht/Beach Club, Boardwalk, or Swan/Dolphin one of the key advantages of staying there is suddenly gone because now more guests from other hotels are being dumped at the back entrance. I get it some will say "well they aren't all coming in at once." No they are not, but the point is one of the key advantages of paying for those hotels is the easy quick access to Epcot and the faster access to Hollywood studios and not having a massive wait time getting into Epcot. Now this is somewhat dulled with all these people getting off the gondola at that entrance, not to mention more people will flow around the Epcot resorts as well. That's just my opinion.
FamilyCallsMeWalt
Member
Bring it back! Bring it back!
yedliW
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I would have thought so, but I asked and they said the only way is to ride the monorail.