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Oh god, what have they done to New Orleans Square?
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RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Thanks for sharing. Waiting to see the final product. Hopefully a lot more details will be added to dress up the new stuff.
GiveMeTheMusic
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It opens tomorrow - guessing not much is gonna change.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Really? If so I am really disappointed.
Californian Elitist
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The entire land hasn't been ruined, but they did manage to eff up some of the aesthetics. Idiots.
Kate Alan
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My favorite part is the huge off center window in front of Cafe Orleans. I can't imagine why they would have done that on purpose, but it is so plainly off-kilter someone would have really had to drop the ball to have placed it that way accidentally.
Then again I can't imagine why half of these design decisions were made seemingly on purpose, so what do I know? Maybe they thought a random off center window was an excellent aesthetic choice. Disappointing result, to be sure.
Then again I can't imagine why half of these design decisions were made seemingly on purpose, so what do I know? Maybe they thought a random off center window was an excellent aesthetic choice. Disappointing result, to be sure.
NiarrNDisney
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Yep not so seamless and refined any more! Thanks for sharing
TP2000
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I looked through the photos. It's not even done yet. 
There are no window shutters or accent pieces or the usual details that Disney puts on stuff yet. Heck, there's still big patches of spackle and holes in the walls because they haven't even finished the painting, and some of the balconies are unfinished and just hanging out over the walkways unattached.
This project isn't done. And if it's supposed to open tomorrow, then they are obviously a couple weeks behind schedule.
I'll look forward to seeing this in person at the end of July or in early August to see what it really looks like. These photos on Micechat are a bit disingenuous because they are pretending the project is done and this is the final project. It's clear that is not the case.
There are no window shutters or accent pieces or the usual details that Disney puts on stuff yet. Heck, there's still big patches of spackle and holes in the walls because they haven't even finished the painting, and some of the balconies are unfinished and just hanging out over the walkways unattached.
This project isn't done. And if it's supposed to open tomorrow, then they are obviously a couple weeks behind schedule.
I'll look forward to seeing this in person at the end of July or in early August to see what it really looks like. These photos on Micechat are a bit disingenuous because they are pretending the project is done and this is the final project. It's clear that is not the case.
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sweetpee_1993
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Is the "bridge" an entirely new addition? It looks very out of place. Granted, I never saw NOS before the tarps went up. But, I did live in the greater New Orleans area for many years. I do have a feel for what the architectural details should be. I hope they aren't done dressing it all out. From the pics there's a lot of choppy aesthetics that are very, very disruptive.
lazyboy97o
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No amount of props will fix large, out of place windows and tangential themes.I looked through the photos. It's not even done yet.
There are no window shutters or accent pieces or the usual details that Disney puts on stuff yet. Heck, there's still big patches of spackle and holes in the walls because they haven't even finished the painting, and some of the balconies are unfinished and just hanging out over the walkways unattached.
This project isn't done. And if it's supposed to open tomorrow, then they are obviously a couple weeks behind schedule.
I'll look forward to seeing this in person at the end of July or in early August to see what it really looks like. These photos on Micechat are a bit disingenuous because they are pretending the project is done and this is the final project. It's clear that is not the case.
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
I looked through the photos. It's not even done yet.
There are no window shutters or accent pieces or the usual details that Disney puts on stuff yet. Heck, there's still big patches of spackle and holes in the walls because they haven't even finished the painting, and some of the balconies are unfinished and just hanging out over the walkways unattached.
This project isn't done. And if it's supposed to open tomorrow, then they are obviously a couple weeks behind schedule.
I'll look forward to seeing this in person at the end of July or in early August to see what it really looks like. These photos on Micechat are a bit disingenuous because they are pretending the project is done and this is the final project. It's clear that is not the case.
The scaffolding is down, walls are down - how are they gonna fix all this stuff without the equipment in place? Seems unlikely the final product will be much improved at this point.
TP2000
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All these photos from Micechat only prove to me that you have to see stuff for yourself.
In this age of cheap digital photography, where every casual tourist has a miracle camera that a professional photographer could have only dreamed about 20 years ago, you can swoop in and grab stellar shots. But shots that don't show the context of what the thing looks like in its natural environment. And thus you get instant online outrage.
Like this shot from Micechat, which has the Internets in a tizzy over the color and the size of the windows and that silly candle on a weird little pedestal. And it's very, glaringly obvious that this isn't done yet and they haven't even begun shading and aging the paint treatments here, much less add draperies and props and accents.
And I've been going to Disneyland regularly for decades, and I can't even figure out where in NOS this actually is. It's just so out of context in this cropped and zoomed photo over a construction wall. Seriously gang, where is this?!?
Or the infamous off-center window above Café Orleans. Which you can't even see from Café Orleans because of the fabric shades and dense patio umbrella forest. Not to mention the massive trees flanked on either side. But when you stand back about 50 yards and look at the building, you can see it.
And again, it's obvious this isn't done with all that spackle and open holes in the walls. But if you stand back 30 yards and zoom your camera in on the building, there it is! I'm not convinced we need to call out the National Guard for this, or put Michael Colglazier in the stocks in The Hub. Let's wait for them to finish.
For those unfamiliar with Disneyland, this is what that building looked like before the new window. It was two small windows with the blinds permanently closed and a small faux balcony in front.
This NOS project is so obviously not finished yet. I'll wait a few more weeks and then go wander NOS in person to see how it all looks and how the new additions flow and mesh with the 1966 originals. I know you'll all wait breathlessly for my report!
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TP2000
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In my amateur experience watching construction projects in the parks...
The scaffolding and tarps are for the work by hired contractors on plaster and electrical and structural and base paint. Then Disney's own artisans and decorators and theme painters come in with man lifts and cherry pickers and do their magic, often overnight.
Much like they apply decorations on buildings and structures for Christmas. You don't think magic elves put all those decorations up around the park for Christmas, do you?
Not-so-magic elf on a cherry picker.
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Tsk, I'm upset about something, so apparently that helps some of you less-mature puppet-lovers feel better as you endlessly lick your wounds. Yeesh. Look, the movie flopped. Get over it. Now, back on topic:It's disgusting. To take the Court of Angels away from the regular guests...the hell? It's like TDA is saying, "Yeah, we know that's a beautiful area, and that makes it just a little too good for YOU, peon tourist."
Now only the well-heeled members of Club 33 get to enjoy it. HARDLY what Walt wanted for the area.I don't get it. TDA has done such wonderful things for Disneyland. Why did it partially ruin one of the best-themed areas in ALL of the parks?
lazyboy97o
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Andy Castro says where that photo is, it is the entrance to the club. The fake candle is on the bridge to the original dining area and the photo is taken from standing under the bridge that goes to the new Jazz Lounge.All these photos from Micechat only prove to me that you have to see stuff for yourself.
In this age of cheap digital photography, where every casual tourist has a miracle camera that a professional photographer could have only dreamed about 20 years ago, you can swoop in and grab stellar shots. But shots that don't show the context of what the thing looks like in its natural environment. And thus you get instant online outrage.
Like this shot from Micechat, which has the Internets in a tizzy over the color and the size of the windows and that silly candle on a weird little pedestal. And it's very, glaringly obvious that this isn't done yet and they haven't even begun shading and aging the paint treatments here, much less add draperies and props and accents.
And I've been going to Disneyland regularly for decades, and I can't even figure out where in NOS this actually is. It's just so out of context in this cropped and zoomed photo over a construction wall. Seriously gang, where is this?!?
Or the infamous off-center window above Café Orleans. Which you can't even see from Café Orleans because of the fabric shades and dense patio umbrella forest. Not to mention the massive trees flanked on either side. But when you stand back about 50 yards and look at the building, you can see it.
And again, it's obvious this isn't done with all that spackle and open holes in the walls. But if you stand back 30 yards and zoom your camera in on the building, there it is! I'm not convinced we need to call out the National Guard for this, or put Michael Colglazier in the stocks in The Hub. Let's wait for them to finish.
For those unfamiliar with Disneyland, this is what that building looked like before the new window. It was two small windows with the blinds permanently closed and a small faux balcony in front.
This NOS project is so obviously not finished yet. I'll wait a few more weeks and then go wander NOS in person to see how it all looks and how the new additions flow and mesh with the 1966 originals. I know you'll all wait breathlessly for my report!
Where has anyone talked about the off-center window being visible from Cafe Orleans and why would the dining area be the only important area? It is visible, that is what matters.
How is more paint and props going to make a large window smaller? What is the point of new, grand windows if they are going to be obscured? Do you really think they are going to go in now and redo the arch so that the door fits?
GiveMeTheMusic
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I don't get it. TDA has done such wonderful things for Disneyland. Why did it partially ruin one of the best-themed areas in ALL of the parks?
Well, DLR's President, who came to us from DAK (yick), takes full responsibility. In the 8 page profile he got in the OC Register, he says the club was a missed revenue opportunity and that the redo is his pet project. So in this case, two people can be blamed: on management side, Michael Colglazier, and on WDI's side, Kim Irvine, who led the design.
I haven't talked to a single Club 33 member who is pleased with any of the changes - from the hideous new logo to the architectural blunders to the new menu - pretty much no one is happy.
Great work Disney!
lazyboy97o
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The Club 33 expansion is all about the people who are please with everything and anything Disney does and have the money. Club 33 is being guided by the same philosophy that has been guiding Walt Disney World the past few years. They'd much rather have a revolving door of people who didn't know what once was.
George Lucas on a Bench
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The original facades were, of course, superior and perfect. All the changes look pretty horrendous in person, not just in photos. Yet another example of modern management second-guessing the WED geniuses that originally created this stuff. I take it this was all for profit?