Odd security question

Bpmorley

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Last month me and DW were pulling up to BWV for check-in. We had our MBs on but the line to pull in was long and not moving. When I finally had a chance I pulled to the right lane for guest staying there with the automatic gate when you use your MB. The gate wouldn't go up. I got out of the car to let the guard in the shack know that the gate won't go up. That's when he said all their systems were down. Ok, at this point I'm waiting for him to either raise the gate or come see my MB, or whatever they do. I sat there for about another 5 minutes and nothing. So I got out again and said asked if he could let me in. He said when he checks my ID. Basically DW pulled out her ID and from 10 feet away he said ok and then lifted the gate. I'm just wondering what kind of security is that. The next day we were pulling in and we just pulled up to the shack. Guard said the same thing, systems are down. He asked for ID. I asked him if he had a list with guests name on it and he said no. Then what is the ID for?
 

Pepper's Ghost

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It's security theater.

This is incredibly accurate. Excluding police, if not checking for an appropriate age for purchases/service of alcohol and the like, or if not being requested by an ICE agent, 99.9% of the time it's meaningless. Have you ever seen a security person ask for your ID, and then scream out "IT'S JIM JONES.... I FOUND HIM! I FOUND HIM! HE JUST SHOWED ME HIS ID!" Nope, doesn't happen, ever. 🤣 🤪 The reason they ask for your ID is because the handbook or security procedures dictate that's what that person is supposed to do... for some reason. They don't know why.
 
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mkt

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It's security theater. They almost never restrict access to the hotels unless the parking lots are full.

This.

I've gotten through showing my Puerto Rico voter ID and my Library of Congress reader card. They rarely care what the ID is, just as long as you're complying with their request.
 

lazyboy97o

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This.

I've gotten through showing my Puerto Rico voter ID and my Library of Congress reader card. They rarely care what the ID is, just as long as you're complying with their request.
I've used less but it plays into this widely held belief that Walt Disney World is some sort of fortress.
 
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MickeyLuv'r

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I suppose it depends which resort. I have had security check our ID against check-in lists.

That said, I think they try to strike a balance.

People who are angry or frustrated are dangerous.

The OP changed lanes and got out of their car because they thought the process was taking too long. When strangers get out of their car, that too poses a danger to the guard, no?
 
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Bpmorley

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I suppose it depends which resort. I have had security check our ID against check-in lists.

That said, I think they try to strike a balance.

People who are angry or frustrated are dangerous.

The OP changed lanes and got out of their car because they thought the process was taking too long. When strangers get out of their car, that too poses a danger to the guard, no?
That's not why I changed lanes. There are 2 lanes going in. 1 to the guard shack and 1 to just the machine that you put your MB, er magic band. Any time I'm staying at the resort I use the machine because the sign says returning resort guests. I got out to get the guards attention saying the machine isn't working.
 

Pepper's Ghost

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That's not why I changed lanes. There are 2 lanes going in. 1 to the guard shack and 1 to just the machine that you put your MB, er magic band. Any time I'm staying at the resort I use the machine because the sign says returning resort guests. I got out to get the guards attention saying the machine isn't working.

Thanks for spelling that one out. Lol!

And I assume you didn't get out to pose a danger to the guard. Luckily they realized that to, or you might've been tazed.
 

thomas998

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This is incredibly accurate. Excluding police, if not checking for an appropriate age for purchases/service of alcohol and the like, or if not being requested by an ICE agent, 99.9% of the time it's meaningless. Have you ever seen a security person ask for your ID, and then scream out "IT'S JIM JONES.... I FOUND HIM! I FOUND HIM! HE JUST SHOWED ME HIS ID!" Nope, doesn't happen, ever. 🤣 🤪 The reason they ask for your ID is because the handbook or security procedures dictate that's what that person is supposed to do... for some reason. They don't know why.
And because at some Disney resorts they did have a paper list of all guests. Certainly was what happened prior to magic bands, my guess is that someone decided with magic bands arrival they didn't need to bother with the printed list anymore but no one ever bothered to change the handbook. If you look in many employee handbooks in different companies you will often see holdover rules that don't make sense because things changed and someone never changed the handbook. Some places create a handbook and then never really even bother to update it ever and it only gets changed maybe once every 10 to 15 years when someone decides its time to update it... and if its updated by a junior monkey boy that has no clue then they will miss many things when they do the update because doing it properly would take a lot more time than most places are willing to spend.
 

Pepper's Ghost

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Why would I pose a danger? Tazed? that would make a great ad for Disney.

I was joking, but responding to the following post that a person getting out of their car poses a danger to the guard. When you said "I got out to get the guards attention saying the machine isn't working" I was just saying that I assumed you weren't trying to pose a danger. 😁

People who are angry or frustrated are dangerous.

The OP changed lanes and got out of their car because they thought the process was taking too long. When strangers get out of their car, that too poses a danger to the guard, no?
 

Bpmorley

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Original Poster
I was joking, but responding to the following post that a person getting out of their car poses a danger to the guard. When you said "I got out to get the guards attention saying the machine isn't working" I was just saying that I assumed you weren't trying to pose a danger. 😁
I got ya. It's had to read tone of voice on here. I've been misunderstood online many times
 

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