TP2000
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Fascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
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Fascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
Disney Vault
Active Member
These are already used in other area and work very well. The first one I ever saw was for tempe town lake in ArizonaFascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
So like @AJFireman showed above, basically a swimming pool? Just don't look up- or downstream to ruin the illusion? unless they put up big screens...
lazyboy97o
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Ideally de-channelization would be a larger, ongoing process.
AB48
New Member
Honestly, how can we not be eternally grateful for your fantastic permit thread and sleuthing abilities?!
They've got plans, that's not in question. It's just the photos and images and all the work so far on that site is just for the city-funded parking structures that the Samueli's finally worked out with the City of Anaheim to get done. Finally.
As I understood it, the first phase of actual public amenities and retail will be tucked under and alongside the western bank of parking structures being built now along the Orange Freeway. That's mostly what they call the "Market Hall", which will plug in to the eastern flank of that long parking structure.
This photo that @Jiggsawpuzzle35 posted above, is the second parking structure being built on the eastern side of the Honda Center along the riverbed. I don't believe it has any retail/dining planned for it.
In short, the Market Hall could be their first actual offering for the public at OCVibe besides the city owned parking structures now under construction. It would basically be a food hall with some restaurants and bars, probably a Ducks and Angels merchandise store, etc. It would need to get going fast in '25 to make it by the '26-27 Ducks season. It could make it by the Spring '27 Angels season.
But the vast bulk of the OC Vibe complex; the 20 story hotels and apartment blocks, the 5,000 seat concert venue, the 2,000 seat stage theater, the new version of the Golden Bear music venue, the Woonerf and parks, etc. are all still only an AI created fever dream of clip art. Nothing has begun construction.
| BLD2022-03829 | 2535 E Katella Ave Anaheim, Ca 92806 |
| 11/5/2024 | Matt Construction Corporation |
| 318 Amusement, Social, and Recreational | (562) 903 2277 |
| 25360103 | New Commercial Construction |
| $85,000,000.00 | New Commercial Construction: 101,724 Sf. To Construct New 3-story Concert Venue With A Mezzanine, 2,911 Sf. Balcony And 886 Sq Ft Backstage Exterior Covered Corridor. 838 Sq Ft Lounge Building. 1,759 Sq Ft Crew Building With Mezzanine And Attached 744 Sq |
| BLD2022-06054 | 1645 S River Rd Anaheim, Ca 92806 |
| 11/6/2024 | Swinerton Builders |
| 328 Other Nonresidential Buildings | (925) 602 6400 |
| 25352135 | New Commercial Construction |
| $29,000,000.00 | New Commercial Construction: 715,458 Sq Ft Seven-level Parking Structure (D) With Basement. 1,624 Sq Ft Office/Meeting Space And 1,336 Sq Ft Locker Space. Install Roof Top Commercial Solar With (16) Inverters And (2,076) Modules. "oc V!be" |
Found these permits from a couple months back in early November, issued for the construction of the east parking structure and the 5,000 seat concert venue.
chadwpalm
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Probably nothing given that the Santa Ana River already has two inflatable dams upstream that have been there for 30 years.Fascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
They divert the water from the river into all of the basins that are adjacent to the river (indicated by my arrows) for water infiltration into the ground to replenish the ground water. That's why the river south of that near the Honda center is dried up most of the year. From what I understand, just enough water is released from the Prado Dam to keep these basins filled to replenish the ground water and in heavy rain seasons water is allowed downstream (temporary deflation of the dams) to prevent overfill and flooding.
If the swimming pool was a mile and a half long, sure. As someone earlier in the thread pointed out, it will be like Tempe Town Lake, just not as wide or long. In fact, the engineering study found on the website I linked uses that as one of the examples.
There are two proposed locations for the downstream inflatable dams. They are indicated by the #8 in the photo below.
The plan is to allow additional water to be released from Prado Dam (as well as other creek and storm drain inlets during rain season) to fill up the areas along the riverwalk that will also act as additional infiltration into the ground water system. It will essentially be another ground water basin.
It won't just be a small swimming pool like @AJFireman showed, but a nearly 2-mile long lake with clean water capable of supporting recreational activities like kayaking and swimming. I think the proposal stated no motorboats.
If people are curious about the details of this project, it's all detailed here: https://ocriverwalk.com/wp-content/...gineering-Feasibility-Study-Report_lowres.pdf
MoonRakerSCM
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They're making this like the waterfront in Tempe. The inflatable dams work pretty well when you have actually clean water. I've seen them used for stormwater recharge gallery collection in our signature square shaped washes where the untreated water sits and gets stagnant//nasty but with good water and proper movement, these ponds should be fine.
As stated from further up in Anaheim-
www.ocwd.com
The advantage of these things is they're built to overtop so even if they fail to deflate during major storms, they just become a cascade (note the concrete area to the right in the photo to compensate for high energy water to prevent scour).
It's all nice and a good looking plan... but my main concern is the extremely high potential for this to become the homeless riviera. Wouldn't take much to allow it to go back to what it was a few years back-
As stated from further up in Anaheim-
Five Coves Rubber Dam to Be Replaced | OCWD - Orange County Water District
Five Coves Rubber Dam to Be Replaced OCWD has constructed a sophisticated recharge system to replenish the groundwater basin. The District constructs earthen levees in the Santa Ana River that evenly spreads water in the river to maximize percolation and operates three rubber dams that divert...
www.ocwd.com
The advantage of these things is they're built to overtop so even if they fail to deflate during major storms, they just become a cascade (note the concrete area to the right in the photo to compensate for high energy water to prevent scour).
It's all nice and a good looking plan... but my main concern is the extremely high potential for this to become the homeless riviera. Wouldn't take much to allow it to go back to what it was a few years back-
AJFireman
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End of last year Anaheim passed some new laws regarding anti camping with the homeless. They seem to be really pushing it. I did notice this morning during half marathon weekend. I didn't see any sleepers like last year at all the bus stops.
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New city rules take effect barring blocking sidewalks, other public spaces, bike nuisances, smoking
New city laws take effect this week covering obstruction of public spaces, bike nuisances and an expansion of Anaheimās smoking ban to parks and other places.
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MoonRakerSCM
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They've been on the right path lately, but it doesn't take much to swing back again.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
I actually used to live within that aerial image above, in northeast Villa Park. I knew that OC had that massive system of retention and drainage ponds feeding the aquifer from Anaheim Hills to Anaheim Stadium, but I had no idea it involved "inflatable dams"! Thank you for the explanation.
Somehow, when I thought of "inflatable dam" my mind went to something like an air compressor hooked up to a long string of Water Wings that children use in the pool.
That's good to hear. When I moved out of California a few years ago, it was at its worst in OC. I just couldn't take it any more, especially not with the huge taxes I was paying to turn the entire state into an open air opium den and human trafficking operation.
But @MoonRakerSCM is right. It took California almost 20 years to get itself into their current situation. And many cities are finally regaining sanity and taking back control of their societal norms. But it only takes one weirdo judge, or one nutjob bureaucrat, to ruin a few years of work and progress. California still has a lot of work to do to regain its social sanity.
But I'm glad to know that in Anaheim, and in broader Orange County, it's begun.
DLR92
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This should also help with storing water in needed times.
Looks like the parking structures on Douglas are about 75% done. They are jacking up our season tickets next year because parking is now included with each ticket. Every event to Honda center will include parking for everyone including your 4 year old kid. Construction has started on the 5,700 concert hall and food hall as well.
NobodyElse
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That seems like a lame way to handle things. It's certainly a fine way to shave away the advantages of car-pooling and public / alternate transportation.