I love the look of it, but still too big for me.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/11/04/image-the-nikon-df-what-do-you-think/
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Nikon Df retro full frame is here
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ddbowdoin
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eh, again... Nikon missing the boat. They need to attract professional grade photographers into a class where they aren't looking for pro performance to replace their "real" cameras but rather a tool that can always be in the car, always on the shoulder and this is just too big. Sweet it has an FX sensor but it looks like the size of a 3200, how is that small?
One advantage over the A7, a mechanical shutter release can be used... you know, those cheap 5 dollar ones at every camera shop. I bet the Sony electronic trigger will be like 60 bucks.
FYI - I managed to find a wireless remote shutter release for my NEX-7 for 9 bucks on Amazon.
ddbowdoin
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that's not bad!
I have had bad luck with wireless releases with Nikon, the "half press" to focus is so damn sensitive I hated it. I know I should have just set it to manual and either zone focused or pre-focused but you get my point. I just liked wired lol
rumor is $2,750, which seems a bit rich.
and what's up with a full frame sensor with only 16mp?
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/...-order-with-special-edition-lens-now-2996-95/
"Yes my friends this is a DSLR shaped like a classic F Nikon from back in the day (only thicker) but with some modern full frame 16MP flair. Long story short, this is basically a Nikon D4 in a smaller more classic looking form and while I wish the special edition 50 1.8 lens had a manual aperture dial I do love the way the camera looks. Much better to me than a D700 or D800 or even D4 in the looks dept. It will be a little smaller than those cameras as well, harnessing the power of full frame in a smaller than normal DSLR body and with the shape of an old classic Nikon. It has been a crazy past few months with incredible camera after camera being released and this one looks like it will be a TANK..I just hope it lives up to the old classic in build, feel and operation. I also wish it were thinner but it is just not possible it seems.
For those who were asking me, It has a normal optical viewfinder and it is NOT a mirror less camera. It is in fact a DSLR. All of the guts of the DSLR but the style of a modern classic with reduced size (though mount modern Nikon DSLR lenses on it and it will be a monster).
This will accept any modern Nikon lens as well as classic old school manual focus lenses (which is how I would shoot it). This body is not “revolutionary” but it is pretty nice looking if you like retro styled cameras. It is back to basics. No video, no extra gimmicks – just a camera, some controls, a lens and a shutter. THAT is what I love about this concept and idea. But again, it is larger than a Sony A7, larger than a Leica M, but smaller than a Nikon D700 or D800, etc. I am going to guess it will be a pretty solid performer. Great IQ (D4 Sensor), solid build, should be speedy and no-nonsense. Control your camera with dials and shoot. The 50 is a perfect focal length for this kind of camera."
"The cost? $2996.95 in black or silver with a 50 1.8 Special Edition lens. If you want it without the lens, $2746.95"
"Yes my friends this is a DSLR shaped like a classic F Nikon from back in the day (only thicker) but with some modern full frame 16MP flair. Long story short, this is basically a Nikon D4 in a smaller more classic looking form and while I wish the special edition 50 1.8 lens had a manual aperture dial I do love the way the camera looks. Much better to me than a D700 or D800 or even D4 in the looks dept. It will be a little smaller than those cameras as well, harnessing the power of full frame in a smaller than normal DSLR body and with the shape of an old classic Nikon. It has been a crazy past few months with incredible camera after camera being released and this one looks like it will be a TANK..I just hope it lives up to the old classic in build, feel and operation. I also wish it were thinner but it is just not possible it seems.
For those who were asking me, It has a normal optical viewfinder and it is NOT a mirror less camera. It is in fact a DSLR. All of the guts of the DSLR but the style of a modern classic with reduced size (though mount modern Nikon DSLR lenses on it and it will be a monster).
This will accept any modern Nikon lens as well as classic old school manual focus lenses (which is how I would shoot it). This body is not “revolutionary” but it is pretty nice looking if you like retro styled cameras. It is back to basics. No video, no extra gimmicks – just a camera, some controls, a lens and a shutter. THAT is what I love about this concept and idea. But again, it is larger than a Sony A7, larger than a Leica M, but smaller than a Nikon D700 or D800, etc. I am going to guess it will be a pretty solid performer. Great IQ (D4 Sensor), solid build, should be speedy and no-nonsense. Control your camera with dials and shoot. The 50 is a perfect focal length for this kind of camera."
"The cost? $2996.95 in black or silver with a 50 1.8 Special Edition lens. If you want it without the lens, $2746.95"
It's like two extremes at tge moment. Canon releasing nothing, Nikon and Sony going crazy with releases.
NowInc
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The price is steep, but you also have to realize its got D4 guts inside...
I would like it...except I cant imagine this being good with larger lenses (also..no video..)
...regarding Nikon "missing the boat"...they have a far more impressive "mid-mid/high range" than a lot of other brands. (D7100, D610, D800). It seems thats the market/price range they have been targeting mostly lately. They know that the pro-sumer is where the money is at these days.
As for Canon...they have been killing it (in the good way) in the video department. That touch to focus in live view is amazing when used in person. And no denying they are the best selling brand out of all.
Sony...well..we know what path they are taking..and I think they are really close to "getting there" as far as a major player (in the professional aspect). Before people throw stones, realize that tho the new Full frame mirrorless systems are very very impressive, they are not quite ready for the high end market (mostly sports).
Also...final note. Remember that most of the "high end" gear traditionally gets released/announced right around the olympics.
I would like it...except I cant imagine this being good with larger lenses (also..no video..)
...regarding Nikon "missing the boat"...they have a far more impressive "mid-mid/high range" than a lot of other brands. (D7100, D610, D800). It seems thats the market/price range they have been targeting mostly lately. They know that the pro-sumer is where the money is at these days.
As for Canon...they have been killing it (in the good way) in the video department. That touch to focus in live view is amazing when used in person. And no denying they are the best selling brand out of all.
Sony...well..we know what path they are taking..and I think they are really close to "getting there" as far as a major player (in the professional aspect). Before people throw stones, realize that tho the new Full frame mirrorless systems are very very impressive, they are not quite ready for the high end market (mostly sports).
Also...final note. Remember that most of the "high end" gear traditionally gets released/announced right around the olympics.
I have no doubt Nikon ( and Canon ) produce some of the best cameras in the world - no doubt at all. However, for me it has come down to portability. I had a Canon Rebel film SLR in the mid 90's and not only did I carry it around less and less, but it's "bulk" nearly turned me off to photography completely. The mirrorless cameras with the "guts" of a DSLR at a fraction of the size/weight have revived my interest in photo taking. It would have been wonderful to see Nikon or Canon move more in that direction but in the end, the Df is still a brick. It has retro looks, and dare I say a "dated" sensor. Where is the "pushing the envelope"? When I look at people lugging around their big DSLR and bag I'm always reminded of Michael Douglas talking on his big cell phone in Wall Street.
The next few years are going to be very interesting in the camera industry.
NowInc
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Oh I agree that you can't beat the mirrorless when it comes to portability. It just needs another few versions to really be a "hard choice" for more people.
I was sad when the rumors of the DF being a mirrorless (or a hybrid) turned out to be false.
PhotoDave219
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I want one of these. Reminds me of my old FE2. I think it fits in it own class....
PhotoDave219
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Interesting that observation along with the same thought that Nikon partnered with WDW/DL.
Steve Huff review.
Loves the camera.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/12/20/the-nikon-df-camera-review-by-steve-huff/
What really blew me away…
What really blew me away was the fact that this small DSLR with its sexy looks gave me the absolute best low light performance I have ever seen (even seeming to beat the older and larger Nikon D3s). In almost any light situation I could snap a shot, even using AF with the simple 50 1.8 kit lens and it would lock, fire and give me usable results, even at ISO 16,000 or even 25,600. Shooting with a Leica M limits me to 6400 tops and with the E-M1 I really do not go over 6400 ..ever. The Df literally laughed at the low light scenarios and spit out rich colorful images at high ISO. Yes, it is the King Of the Nighttime World.
Loves the camera.
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/12/20/the-nikon-df-camera-review-by-steve-huff/
What really blew me away…
What really blew me away was the fact that this small DSLR with its sexy looks gave me the absolute best low light performance I have ever seen (even seeming to beat the older and larger Nikon D3s). In almost any light situation I could snap a shot, even using AF with the simple 50 1.8 kit lens and it would lock, fire and give me usable results, even at ISO 16,000 or even 25,600. Shooting with a Leica M limits me to 6400 tops and with the E-M1 I really do not go over 6400 ..ever. The Df literally laughed at the low light scenarios and spit out rich colorful images at high ISO. Yes, it is the King Of the Nighttime World.
KeithVH
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I think that it's great about the low light capabilities. I do love the retro look. But am I loving it $2,800 worth? The money versus those two qualities? I would think that will turn off all but those who either really want it and can utilize it's capabilities (a definite minority) or those with more money than brains (probably more than we're aware of).
I'll wait for the sensor tech to bleed down into something more affordable. And knowing the cost of playing in low light, I won't fret if I miss a shot because it's too dark.
I'll wait for the sensor tech to bleed down into something more affordable. And knowing the cost of playing in low light, I won't fret if I miss a shot because it's too dark.
ddbowdoin
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I've had three friends return their DF because of AF hunting issues... strange.