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NFL 2013 Discussion Thread
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Lucky
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That would be a little extreme IMO
I agree. Tomlin acted alone, why punish the team and fans?
flynnibus
Premium Member
Because the coaches are held to a higher standard and represent the organization.. not just an individual
So the fans have to suffer for it?
A few years back, when the Jets' tripping-on-the-sideline incident happened, the Jets were not docked a draft pick.
Aaron Rodgers was limited in practice today, but McCarthy remained noncommittal when answering questions on whether Rodgers will play this week. McCarthy did say Rodgers looked good in his opinion, though.
Mike Smith said he is preparing as if Rodgers is starting.
Mike Smith said he is preparing as if Rodgers is starting.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Hrmm.. that is a very weak branch to stand on. Should the Saint's staff not have been punished, so the team wouldn't have faultered, so the fans wouldn't have to suffer for the bounty-gate scandal?
And the guy involved was a low level conditioning coach - not the team's head coach. That's the difference.
I don't think Tomlin's incident can be compared to a several-year-long bounty scandal.
If you want to punish Tomlin, suspend him for a game without pay, along with the fine. I don't think the fans and team should have to suffer for one act from one man.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Scales are different - but the subject at hand is the same. The point is they punish the people involved - without regard for what the consequence to the fans will be. They don't go 'wow, we can't suspend Suh because that would hurt the Detroit playoff hopes and the fans wouldn't like that'.
The team always suffers when an individual does something against the rules. Be it taking a 15yrd penalty for a personal foul, taking a suspension and having to sit out a game, or more.
The significance here is that this isn't just 'one man' - it's the freaking head coach. The NFL will be out to send a message that this won't be tolerated... and BTW.. get out of the white stripe. It's been called twice in the last two weeks on teams. The NFL refs are coached in what the league office wants to emphasize on a week to week basis.
StarWarsGirl
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I'm with @flynnibus on this one. This is the head coach. He should be held to higher standards. The Ravens and the Steelers have a rilvalry. That does not give either team license to taunt the other. Yes he acted alone, but if the attitude is allowed to continue, it can go down through the ranks and then they have an even bigger problem. And if coaches from other teams think that they can do this and only get fined, the NFL now has a bigger problem. If they want to make the point that this is unacceptable behavior, they must make the point.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Now that we are in crunch-time, and we are 3/4 of the way through the season, I will update my rankings and whatnot.
NFC North
1. Lions
2. Packers
3. Bears
4. Vikings
NFC East
1. Eagles
2. Cowboys
3. Giants
4. Redskins
NFC South
1. Saints
2. Panthers
3. Buccaneers
4. Falcons
NFC West
1. Seahawks
2. 49ers
3. Cardinals
4. Rams
AFC North
1. Bengals
2. Ravens
3. Steelers
4. Browns
AFC East
1. Patriots
2. Dolphins
3. Jets
4. Bills
AFC South
1. Colts
2. Titans
3. Jaguars
4. Texans
AFC West
1. Broncos
2. Chiefs
3. Chargers
4. Raiders
NFC Playoff Seeds
1. Seahawks
2. Saints
3. Eagles
4. Lions
5. Panthers
6. 49ers
AFC Playoff Seeds
1. Broncos
2. Patriots
3. Bengals
4. Colts
5. Chiefs
6. Ravens
Wild Card Playoffs
49ers @ Eagles (Eagles)
Panthers @ Lions (Panthers)
Ravens @ Bengals (Bengals)
Chiefs @ Colts (Chiefs)
Divisional Playoffs
Eagles @ Saints (Saints)
Panthers @ Seahawks (Seahawks)
Chiefs @ Broncos (Broncos)
Bengals @ Patriots (Patriots)
Championship Games
Saints @ Seahawks (Seahawks)
Patriots @ Broncos (Broncos)
Super Bowl
Seahawks vs Broncos (Seahawks)
MVP
1. Peyton Manning
2. Russell Wilson
3. Cam Newton
Coach of the Year
1. Andy Reid
2. Bruce Arians
3. Ron Rivera
Rookie of the Year
1. Eddie Lacy
2. Keenan Allen
3. ???
NFC North
1. Lions
2. Packers
3. Bears
4. Vikings
NFC East
1. Eagles
2. Cowboys
3. Giants
4. Redskins
NFC South
1. Saints
2. Panthers
3. Buccaneers
4. Falcons
NFC West
1. Seahawks
2. 49ers
3. Cardinals
4. Rams
AFC North
1. Bengals
2. Ravens
3. Steelers
4. Browns
AFC East
1. Patriots
2. Dolphins
3. Jets
4. Bills
AFC South
1. Colts
2. Titans
3. Jaguars
4. Texans
AFC West
1. Broncos
2. Chiefs
3. Chargers
4. Raiders
NFC Playoff Seeds
1. Seahawks
2. Saints
3. Eagles
4. Lions
5. Panthers
6. 49ers
AFC Playoff Seeds
1. Broncos
2. Patriots
3. Bengals
4. Colts
5. Chiefs
6. Ravens
Wild Card Playoffs
49ers @ Eagles (Eagles)
Panthers @ Lions (Panthers)
Ravens @ Bengals (Bengals)
Chiefs @ Colts (Chiefs)
Divisional Playoffs
Eagles @ Saints (Saints)
Panthers @ Seahawks (Seahawks)
Chiefs @ Broncos (Broncos)
Bengals @ Patriots (Patriots)
Championship Games
Saints @ Seahawks (Seahawks)
Patriots @ Broncos (Broncos)
Super Bowl
Seahawks vs Broncos (Seahawks)
MVP
1. Peyton Manning
2. Russell Wilson
3. Cam Newton
Coach of the Year
1. Andy Reid
2. Bruce Arians
3. Ron Rivera
Rookie of the Year
1. Eddie Lacy
2. Keenan Allen
3. ???
To be fair, it was against the Texans.
Wade Phillips will act as the interim head coach for the Texans.
Personally, I'm not a fan of firing coaches during the season. It seems like at the end of the season, the change is good, but then they stick with that coach for the next season, and they bomb that season as well. It's kind of like a false-hope. Meanwhile, I still don't know why Jason Garrett is a head coach.
Personally, I'm not a fan of firing coaches during the season. It seems like at the end of the season, the change is good, but then they stick with that coach for the next season, and they bomb that season as well. It's kind of like a false-hope. Meanwhile, I still don't know why Jason Garrett is a head coach.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Because he's nice and obedient to JJ
flynnibus
Premium Member
Getting swept by the Jags while you just signed your 'franchise' qb last season and going from 10 and 12 win seasons to this... can't say I'm suprised
Don't think it will fix things, but something had to break.Plus, their 4th down call last night came back to haunt them.