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NFL 2012- Name your team!!!
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StarWarsGirl
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Not a question: Baltimore Ravens!
captainkidd
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About who is going to lose on Sunday? Yup, I agree 100%.
StarWarsGirl
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- In the Parks
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You don't know the power of the Purple side.
PUSH
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I think both games will be closer than people think. I think the Ravens have a shot against the Patriots. Heck, they beat the Broncos who were considered better than the Patriots.
I think the Falcons can beat the 49ers too. Kaepernick is not a great passer, so if you stop his running, you control the game. The Falcons offense is capable of scoring more points, but their defense is their liability. It could come down to a last second kick like last week. The Falcons are a great clutch team.
I think the Falcons can beat the 49ers too. Kaepernick is not a great passer, so if you stop his running, you control the game. The Falcons offense is capable of scoring more points, but their defense is their liability. It could come down to a last second kick like last week. The Falcons are a great clutch team.
StarWarsGirl
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Finally! Someone who actually has something NICE to say about my beloved Ravens. Most people also overlook the fact that we've been in the playoffs five years in a row. But I must say, the Broncos were a tough team to beat and both teams fought until the end. It was a tough, emotional game and whoever won deserved it.
And the Steelers are not in it. Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! (resumes evil laugh)
PUSH
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I felt the same way about the Bears, but it was kind of bittersweet since the Packers lost a game to kick them out.
captainkidd
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Everyone, myself included, gave the Broncos too much credit. They were in the worst division in the league, and when they played a decent defense, their offense did nothing. It was all special teams and defense.
I'll give the Ravens props. They're a good team, and yes, making it to the Playoffs 5 years in a row is impressive. As impressive as making it to the AFC Championship Game 6 times in 11 years, or making the Playoffs 10 out of 11 years? Not so much, and that's the key here. Belichek and Brady. This is their last best chance at winning it all. Pats wins it this year, it will be very hard to argue that Bill isn't the best coach of all time, and Tom isn't the best QB of all time, whether people like them or not. And they both know it. It will be tough without Gronk, but the Pats have so many weapons, as Phil Simms says, "There's no way to stop them, only slow them down, and the only way to do that is keep Brady off the field." Over the past few seasons, teams have been able to do that since the Pats had a crap defense, but it is much improved this year.
I'm going with ESPN and saying Pats, 31-17.
StarWarsGirl
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Yes, but the Ravens have a passion. Ray Lewis is retiring, and everyone wants to see him go out with a bang. When you have a team that is determined to win, they will do their best to do so. Joe Flacco may not be Tom Brady, but he is calm under pressure and maintains a lot of presence on the field. And looking back, we beat New England this year in a very close game. So it could happen again.
Plus I really want to see New England go down because my Spanish teacher is a New England fan. When I had her Freshman year, they lost to the Ravens in the playoffs, so hopefully this will be like that year. We teased her quite a bit about it.
The problem is that the NFL hates us. We get more bad calls and a bad rep from the NFL. They never wanted Baltimore to have a team and when the Ravens were moved there from Cleveland, they were not happy about it. They wanted us to cheer for the Redskins. Baltimorians are so anti-Washington, however, that none of us would EVER cheer for the Redskins. We hate that Washington put their name on BWI airport. Those from Southern MD cheer for the Redskins, but the rest of us would choose other teams and the Redskins would not get any more traffic on their stations. My parents were 49ers fans before the Ravens came along. I probably would not give a darn if it weren't for the Ravens. We don't have an NBA team, and I can't tell you the name of a single player. I don't know why everyone else seems to be so anti-Ravens and not giving them proper credit. It wasn't our guys faults for many years, either; we've fired several coaches and managers over the past few years (and last year, our kicker).
I'm sort of torn, though. As much as I want to see the Ravens in the Super Bowl, I'm going to be at WDW during the Superbowl. Not sure if I feel like making the effort to watch it...but still. Go Ravens! Also, the year that I was in WDW (2000) during the Superbowl was the year that the Ravens won. Hoping that will help.
PUSH
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I think best coach will still belong to Vince Lombardi. He's been to six NFL Championship games, winning 5, including the first two Super Bowls. His overall winning percentage was 73.8. Hard to argue against that.
Belichick is a great coach and belongs in for sure the top 5 or 3, but I think Vince gets the title.
Brady on the other hand is without a doubt the best modern day QB, at least for now as Aaron Rodgers is putting together a great résumé. Manning has had too much talent around him in his years on offense, and he's known to choke in the post season.
My top 10 QBs of all-time would be:
1. Joe Montana
2. Tom Brady
3. Johnny Unitas
4. Peyton Manning
5. Brett Favre
6. John Elway
7. Dan Marino
8. Steve Young
9. Roger Staubach
10. Bart Starr
PUSH
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Sorry, but I think hands down the Packers won that this year. I've wondered a couple of times what would have been if we got the right call and got the #2 seed. Would we have beaten the 49ers? Assuming they beat the Vikings. Would we be playing the Falcons in the championship? Could we have had a shot at another Lombardi? I try not to think about that much, but it's difficult whenever your team loses in the playoffs...
captainkidd
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Yeah sorry, but every fan thinks their team gets the worst calls. The Ravens aren't hated by the NFL. If they didn't want Baltimore to have a team, they wouldn't have a team. As for Lewis retiring, it's no doubt motivation. But no more than the Pats have for playing for Brady's 4th SB after losing the last 2.
captainkidd
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Belichik has been to 5 so far, won 3. This could be 4. In this day and age, with salary caps, free agency, and so many more teams, that's not easy to do. Plus, Belichick has a winning percentage of 75%. Won his division 10 of 12 years.
captainkidd
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BTW, if the Ravens do win on Sunday, I'm not being a sore loser by not posting. I'm leaving for Disney tomorrow morning and won't have my computer. Just wanted to put that out there.
PUSH
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But also, back then there were much more physical teams that many players today wouldn't be able to match up with. And back then trading players and picking players up from free agency was almost unheard of. When one player was drafted (or picked up from the street), they tended to stay with that team for their careers. So Lombardi didn't have the advantage of getting different players year in and year out like Belichick does now. Of course we are both biased based on the preference of teams.
captainkidd
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But it works both ways. Lombardi also didn't have to worry about salary caps and free agency. Like you said, there's obvious bias on both parts based on our teams. One thing I think we can both agree on - We've both been spoiled by great organizations. There's gonna come a time in the not to distant future where both our teams are going to be, dare I say it, the Kansas City Chiefs.
flynnibus
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Funny.. you just slammed Denver for the quality of their division..
Since Harbaugh and Flacco got together.. they've been in the AFC Championship game more than Brady/Bill have
Including having beaten Brady in Gillette to break the Pat's streak on their way there..Followed up by the Pats losing the next year at home again.. (to the Jets)
And then came within one stripped ball of losing at home again to the Ravens
and now here we are again..
I'm more concerned about Wilfork and Welker than I am Brady.
captainkidd
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Funny.. you just slammed Denver for the quality of their division..
Since Harbaugh and Flacco got together.. they've been in the AFC Championship game more than Brady/Bill have
Followed up by the Pats losing the next year at home again.. (to the Jets)
And then came within one stripped ball of losing at home again to the Ravens
and now here we are again..
I'm more concerned about Wilfork and Welker than I am Brady.
I didn't slam Denver. Just pointing out that even I was giving them too much credit.
Not quite sure where you're getting your info from but the pair have been to the AFC Title game twice together, losing both times to the Patriots and Steelers. Brady and Belichik have been to the AFC Title Game 6 times, winning it 5 times. This will be #7.
Please don't tell me you're trying to compare Harbaugh/Flaaco with Belichik/Brady.
Yeah, no reason to be concerned about Brady. It's not like he's the best Quarterback in the league or anything or has any experience in these games.
PUSH
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But it works both ways. Lombardi also didn't have to worry about salary caps and free agency. Like you said, there's obvious bias on both parts based on our teams. One thing I think we can both agree on - We've both been spoiled by great organizations. There's gonna come a time in the not to distant future where both our teams are going to be, dare I say it, the Kansas City Chiefs.
As of right now we are spoiled, but back in the day (70s and 80s) neither team had much to show. Now we are considered Super Bowl favorites year in and year out (or in the conversation). I don't think the Packers (and probably Patriots) are going to be the Chiefs for a while. As long as Rodgers is there I think the Packers will be a threat. Once Tom Brady is gone, it's certainly a big question mark for the Patriots organization. Ryan Mallett could be like Rodgers and follow a legend, but he may not. The Packers have been spoiled with two great QBs. Say 30ish years of great QBs. I don't know what I'll do if we don't have another great one after Rodgers. Good thing he's only 29.