News New Stroller Size/Wagon Rules and Enforcement - Effective May 1 2019

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Movielover

Movielover

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Magenta Panther said:
Or a siege engine, for storming the castle gates...
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Be quiet, I don't want Disney to ban my new "stroller"...

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Crowds won't move out of my way, well...

"Grond will break 'em"
 
I am Timmy

I am Timmy

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My autistic son would not ride in a stroller (he's 27 now). He was, "not a baby". Even as a tiny toddler. Apparently, he was born a very tiny man. Then grew into a tiny man, who became a little man. It stopped there, as he is only 5' 3". I'm 5'1" and 101 lbs., I could ride in one of those wagons. Are shopping carts banned? Could rent a van......
 
rle4lunch

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Saw this on a FB DVC page. Didn't see it posted on the the thread yet, hilarious. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2263069073736697&id=100001008801708&sfnsn=mo

We don't smoke or own the wagon, but do have a 4 year old and 8 month old going to Disney in May. We bought the slimline Britax double because we hate big strollers too. This thing is barely wider than our single stroller we used to use. So there are options out there for parents of (2) small kids where you're not pushing around a mobile battering ram.
 

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John park hopper

John park hopper

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rle4lunch said:
Saw this on a FB DVC page. Didn't see it posted on the the thread yet, hilarious. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2263069073736697&id=100001008801708&sfnsn=mo

We don't smoke or own the wagon, but do have a 4 year old and 8 month old going to Disney in May. We bought the slimline Britax double because we hate big strollers too. This thing is barely wider than our single stroller we used to use. So there are options out there for parents of (2) small kids where you're not pushing around a mobile battering ram.
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My ankles and feet thank you
 
Chi84

Chi84

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Disney has always been very accommodating to both adults and children with disabilities. As medical science recognizes and is able to treat a greater number of conditions, the list of what people consider disabilities has started to grow along with the types of accommodations they desire. A business must make reasonable accommodation, but it is not required to accept whatever the disabled person believes is reasonable. Disney could decide to provide an accommodation other than the Keenz 7. I would be very wary of relying on any representations at this early stage.

It was disheartening to see Keenz exploiting special needs children in order to sell their product. I have no doubt that children are more comfortable in a wagon than a stroller, and I'm sure that there are children with actual disabilities who might need a greater accommodation than a standard stroller. Saying "what did you do before" is not always valid because the answer sometimes is that the disabled simply were not able to partake in whatever activity is being discussed. But people need to remember that the ADA is not an immutable law of nature - it's a legislative act that can be amended, modified, or even repealed and replaced at any time. If enough entitled, unscrupulous parents are willing to wrongly claim their children are disabled simply to get their choice of stroller in a theme park, businesses will take steps to protect themselves and society will respond. We're already seeing a backlash against people faking disabilities to get their pets into restaurants and grocery stores.
 
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draybook

draybook

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RTeker said:
truthfuly speaking, if the kid is young enough to be in a stroller then there is no reason to bring them cause they are not really gonna remember the visit so its basically a wasted trip,
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Odd, our soon to be 3 and 2 year olds remember when the drop on Pirates is. They know when Tinkerbell is about to take flight during HEA. They know when the ghost host is about to show himself. They also use strollers. I guess they're just abnormal, huh?
 
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Driver

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Goofyernmost said:
You would be wrong. I have used one, I will need to use one again and I will swear on a stack of bibles that it is more work to use one of those then to walk.

There is a law, It is called Adults With Disability's Act (ADA). It states that you cannot ask or require any proof of need to use one. I suggest that people just mind their own business and do your thing and spend a whole lot more time trying to enjoy the parks and a whole lot less in attempting to making amateur medical diagnosis.


A lot of busy bodies in the world. Instead of being happy that they don't need that kind of help they just feel like making a big show about how they know that those people don't need one.


I kind of makes me sad to hear you say it that way. You, of all people know that the number of people that might tell you directly that they don't need one are few and far between. When you factor in the number of scooter users and take away those that really need them, that would be a small group. What percentage would you say, of the total of guests that go to WDW, using a scooter or not, there are when calculated against the number of people that have told you that they didn't really need one. Not offended I just want to know how significant the number is that have said that compared to the people that use them. I guarantee that I could have you load a scooter that I am using and when we get it in the bus and I get up and you see no reason why I am using it, and decide that I didn't need it, you would be very wrong.

Sorry, but, some of that stuff required a reaction:
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That's why I said "some, "my remark wasn't derogatory to either side of the fence. However the huge number of people I come in contact with over the course of a work week, the fact that I can actually say "some" is significant IMHO.
 
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Driver

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Goofyernmost said:
You would be wrong. I have used one, I will need to use one again and I will swear on a stack of bibles that it is more work to use one of those then to walk.

There is a law, It is called Adults With Disability's Act (ADA). It states that you cannot ask or require any proof of need to use one. I suggest that people just mind their own business and do your thing and spend a whole lot more time trying to enjoy the parks and a whole lot less in attempting to making amateur medical diagnosis.


A lot of busy bodies in the world. Instead of being happy that they don't need that kind of help they just feel like making a big show about how they know that those people don't need one.


I kind of makes me sad to hear you say it that way. You, of all people know that the number of people that might tell you directly that they don't need one are few and far between. When you factor in the number of scooter users and take away those that really need them, that would be a small group. What percentage would you say, of the total of guests that go to WDW, using a scooter or not, there are when calculated against the number of people that have told you that they didn't really need one. Not offended I just want to know how significant the number is that have said that compared to the people that use them. I guarantee that I could have you load a scooter that I am using and when we get it in the bus and I get up and you see no reason why I am using it, and decide that I didn't need it, you would be very wrong.

Sorry, but, some of that stuff required a reaction:
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Also it's " American Disabilities Act" not "Adult "
 
xdan0920

xdan0920

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SoupBone said:
Or you know, stop dictating what others should do with their money. I took mine to Disney for my memories too, not just theirs. They still had a blast even if they won't remember it, I will.
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draybook said:
Odd, our soon to be 3 and 2 year olds remember when the drop on Pirates is. They know when Tinkerbell is about to take flight during HEA. They know when the ghost host is about to show himself. They also use strollers. I guess they're just abnormal, huh?
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Yeah but eventually we will all die and not remember anything at all. So why bother?
 
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Sparksfly

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Throw in the Florida heat and crowds and it exacerbates all conditions greatly. Hes not in serious condition enough to be confined to a wheelchair and he's too big for a stroller. Last year I rented the biggest stroller i could find and he was packed in that thing like a sardine. Hes also at the age (and was pretty much there last year as well) where he feels embarrassed being shoved in a stroller even though he knows he needs it. I was planning on renting the keenz this year and he was very much looking forward to it as well. Not only could he fit comfortably in it...it doesn't look like a stroller, which he loves. I've always been very aware of our surroundings with his strollers and took great care to not bump anyone or use it as a "battering ram" as some have called it...even when grown adults would jump right in front of it or walk right towards it like they were playing a game of chicken with my child. Disney's been his happy place for the past 4 years and we go annually for his birthday/Halloween/Christmas parties. Given he literally cannot enjoy disney without something to sit in as we navigate the park...hes too big for a stroller..and I highly doubt anyone wants an 8 year old on an electric scooter if that was even allowed...I dont see how were going to be able to continue our trips. Disneys always been so special for him and us as a family. I really hope they make some sort of provision for disabled children. And next time you see someone with a child whos bigger than a 4 year old in one...before you make a snarky comment and roll your eyes...realize you have no idea why the child may need it. In fact a lot of children in WDW have disabilities you cant see...be mindful. They deserve to enjoy their time in the parks just as much as anyone else...as do I...especially considering I'm paying for two in one of the most expensive places imaginable. Every day..every single trip..I end up sore and dripping in sweat after pushing the stroller around but its always worth it knowing he gets to enjoy a place he truly thinks is magic and I get to see him light up (I know I'm being corny..but its so true).
 
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Andrew C

Andrew C

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Sparksfly said:
My 8 year old has an issue with his joints where he has horrible pain and fatigue if he walks too much in a day..even if he takes breaks periodically. He also has a rare heart condition and SPD. Throw in the Florida heat and crowds and it exacerbates all conditions greatly. Hes not in serious condition enough to be confined to a wheelchair and he's too big for a stroller. Last year I rented the biggest stroller i could find and he was packed in that thing like a sardine. Hes also at the age (and was pretty much there last year as well) where he feels embarrassed being shoved in a stroller even though he knows he needs it. I was planning on renting the keenz this year and he was very much looking forward to it as well. Not only could he fit comfortably in it...it doesn't look like a stroller, which he loves. I've always been very aware of our surroundings with his strollers and took great care to not bump anyone or use it as a "battering ram" as some have called it...even when grown adults would jump right in front of it or walk right towards it like they were playing a game of chicken with my child. Disney's been his happy place for the past 4 years and we go annually for his birthday/Halloween/Christmas parties. Given he literally cannot enjoy disney without something to sit in as we navigate the park...hes too big for a stroller..and I highly doubt anyone wants an 8 year old on an electric scooter if that was even allowed...I dont see how were going to be able to continue our trips. Disneys always been so special for him and us as a family. I really hope they make some sort of provision for disabled children. And next time you see someone with a child whos bigger than a 4 year old in one...before you make a snarky comment and roll your eyes...realize you have no idea why the child may need it. In fact a lot of children in WDW have disabilities you cant see...be mindful. They deserve to enjoy their time in the parks just as much as anyone else...as do I...especially considering I'm paying for two in one of the most expensive places imaginable. Every day..every single trip..I end up sore and dripping in sweat after pushing the stroller around but its always worth it knowing he gets to enjoy a place he truly thinks is magic and I get to see him light up (I know I'm being corny..but its so true).
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That is a crappy situation. Sorry for that. It seems you maybe have to seriously consider a wheelchair now. If he can’t walk around the park and is too big for a stroller, I don’t see another option unfortunately.
 
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