Kram Sacul
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If only Disney bought CBS instead of 20th Century Fox. We could still have Twilight Zone and awesome Star Trek attractions
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New Space Mountain Starcade Queue - Open
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If only Disney bought CBS instead of 20th Century Fox. We could still have Twilight Zone and awesome Star Trek attractions
Disney Irish
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Redstone would never sell CBS. In fact that is why they are trying to do this merger with Viacom to reverse the split up.
TP2000
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I like the sound effects in that new queue room, it really makes it all work.
In the late 1970’s I remember waiting in massive Space Mt. switchbacks in the sun, and then before you got on the speed ramp to go up for another 60 minutes of queue they had very stern young women in red polyester jumpsuits and pert hairdos who would not let you pass until you threw out your Coke and spit out your gum. Then they would deign it appropriate to let you pass and step onto the speed ramp after they approved your behavior.
Some folks forget that in the 1970’s Disneyland CM’s were sticklers for rules and what they thought was the correct customer behavior, and some could be downright hostile and grumpy about it. I distinctly remember the Space Mt. kids being the biggest jerks and power trippers.
In the late 1970’s I remember waiting in massive Space Mt. switchbacks in the sun, and then before you got on the speed ramp to go up for another 60 minutes of queue they had very stern young women in red polyester jumpsuits and pert hairdos who would not let you pass until you threw out your Coke and spit out your gum. Then they would deign it appropriate to let you pass and step onto the speed ramp after they approved your behavior.
Some folks forget that in the 1970’s Disneyland CM’s were sticklers for rules and what they thought was the correct customer behavior, and some could be downright hostile and grumpy about it. I distinctly remember the Space Mt. kids being the biggest jerks and power trippers.
PiratesMansion
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I wasn't really aware of this until I read David Koenig's most recent book, which talked about things like not letting people with funky colored hair into the park, or making men get haircuts if their hair was too long before they were let into the park, all allegedly to preserve a family atmosphere consistent with the show. It read to me as overzealous nonsense. That said, nowadays they've gone way too far in the other direction. It's pretty much anything goes at modern Disney parks aside from Tokyo (though in 2015 I was shocked to watch Parisian cast members kick several non-singles out of the single rider line for RC Racer, can you imagine that happening in the US parks?!?)
The new thing, or rather the architecture of the SM plaza in general, always gave me a Horizons queue vibe... I think that's why I like the area so much.
Stevek
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Wow. Very nicely done. Love the audio.
George Lucas on a Bench
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The new thing, or rather the architecture of the SM plaza in general, always gave me a Horizons queue vibe... I think that's why I like the area so much.
Yes it looks 80s EPCOT Center enough to get thumbs up from me. The awkwardness and slapped-togetherness with the classic chintzy audio earn it bonus points.
Old Mouseketeer
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So you're saying Star Trek copied from Disney? (The Motionless Picture premiered in 1979. LOL)
Incidentally, that corridor with the angled walls was reused in various Star Trek franchises for decades.
mickEblu
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The new thing, or rather the architecture of the SM plaza in general, always gave me a Horizons queue vibe... I think that's why I like the area so much.
The SM plaza also offers some wonderful nostalgia for 70s/80s mall enthusiasists. That’s why I kind of like it. The inside Q, not so much.
Phroobar
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I always thought the Space Mountain architecture looked liked the space mall in Logan's Run. But I think that was an unopened mall in Texas they shot in.
Ismael Flores
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looks great, did they just fix up the interior upper floor of the starcade or did they do something with the outdoor area?
It would be great if they continued the queue and enclosed the small section that connects the starcade with the split part of the queue. Help keep the theme going.
Better yet To bad they couldn't have relocated the queue entrance to that north side of the mountain as well. They could have used the bottom level of the Starcade and turn that into queue area. Add a wrap around ramp that leads up to the upper level to more queue and then continue the queue to an enclosed queue where the tarps are now. (yellow area)
This would give the room to remove the useless magic eye theater. Widen the path way by removing the exit queue space of the theater. Turn the theater area into an eatery with entertainment like it used to. (red area bottom level)
Once that is done, tear out the pizza planet eatery and seating area. gut out all the back area inclduing the existing ramp and fast pass distribution area. and the magic theater queue. This whole area could then be used as an attraction pad. (Blue area)
They really need to start considering how to use up land more efficiently and a way to add capacity. Of course maybe they will surprise us and tear out as many of those old buildings as they can Including star wars Launch Bay building
It would be great if they continued the queue and enclosed the small section that connects the starcade with the split part of the queue. Help keep the theme going.
Better yet To bad they couldn't have relocated the queue entrance to that north side of the mountain as well. They could have used the bottom level of the Starcade and turn that into queue area. Add a wrap around ramp that leads up to the upper level to more queue and then continue the queue to an enclosed queue where the tarps are now. (yellow area)
This would give the room to remove the useless magic eye theater. Widen the path way by removing the exit queue space of the theater. Turn the theater area into an eatery with entertainment like it used to. (red area bottom level)
Once that is done, tear out the pizza planet eatery and seating area. gut out all the back area inclduing the existing ramp and fast pass distribution area. and the magic theater queue. This whole area could then be used as an attraction pad. (Blue area)
They really need to start considering how to use up land more efficiently and a way to add capacity. Of course maybe they will surprise us and tear out as many of those old buildings as they can Including star wars Launch Bay building
Old Mouseketeer
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I always thought the Space Mountain architecture looked liked the space mall in Logan's Run. But I think that was an unopened mall in Texas they shot in.
IMDB credits the location as Dallas Market Center: Apparel Mart: Great Hall, 2300 N Stemmons Fwy, Dallas, Texas, USA , which is a wholesale showroom center not open to the public. Wikipedia says the Apparel Mart was built in 1960 and closed in 2004. IMDB says they filmed in several buildings of the DMC. I always thought it looked like a retail mall with the great carousel star on a temporary wall covering a major department store. But if you look at the balconies to the sides, they appear to be more conducive to wholesale showrooms than retail stores.
Logan's Run definitely fed my inner future geek. It came out the summer I was working opening season at Marriot's Great America and hosted Disney Archivist Dave Smith and future Imagineer David Mumford. I miss those days.
Stevek
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Phroobar
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The Great Hall felt similar to a hotel like the Contemporary. As I kid, I thought that one of A-framed buildings in the City model with based on the Contemporary. They used that same model shots again for Buck Rogers.
Disney, please make a new Tomorrowland look like this!
Disney, please make a new Tomorrowland look like this!
George Lucas on a Bench
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Yes the blue corridor was eventually repurposed into even the Enterprise D corridor on The Next Generation. It's all thanks to Space Mountain.
Rich T
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It wasn't nonsense at the time, it was just a dress code. People who didn't like it went elsewhere. If you didn't grow up in the era, watch an old rerun of the original 50's Mickey Mouse Club. That was Disney then, that was their core audience, and DL reflected it 100%. In the 60's, hippies protesting Disney's dress code made the national news for a week.
That carried forward into the 70's-80's as hairstyles got more outrageous. I still remember a great letter-to-the-editor in the LA Times where the commenter said, reasonably, that behavior matters far more than fashion, and that he'd rather be in line with a polite woman with a purple mohawk than a rude woman who looked like June Cleaver.
Personally, I never applied for a job at DL because at the time because I didn't want to cut my hair super-short. Now CMs can even have mustaches. The pay still still sucks, but I guess that's *some* compensation.
TROR
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Need this back
Texas84
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Banning colored hair would eliminate the fake service dog problem.
Ismael Flores
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It wasn't nonsense at the time, it was just a dress code. People who didn't like it went elsewhere. If you didn't grow up in the era, watch an old rerun of the original 50's Mickey Mouse Club. That was Disney then, that was their core audience, and DL reflected it 100%. In the 60's, hippies protesting Disney's dress code made the national news for a week.
That carried forward into the 70's-80's as hairstyles got more outrageous. I still remember a great letter-to-the-editor in the LA Times where the commenter said, reasonably, that behavior matters far more than fashion, and that he'd rather be in line with a polite woman with a purple mohawk than a rude woman who looked like June Cleaver.
Personally, I never applied for a job at DL because at the time because I didn't want to cut my hair super-short. Now CMs can even have mustaches. The pay still still sucks, but I guess that's *some* compensation.
lately i have been seeing men with very badly groomed beards, I thought they were suppose to have their beards kept up. I am just hoping that eventually we don't have CM's with Duck Dynasty beards.