New shots over the walls (August 19th)

TarzanRocked99-

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^Off Topic - But nice to see another Tennessee person on these boards. I moved away several years ago, but I still call it home.
I think our numbers have grown to 7 or 8 here.
:wave:

Tennessee represent as well, moved down here from Franklin 8 years ago and moving back in December. Go Titans
 

TarzanRocked99-

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Not sure I'm thrilled about losing SWSA, but from a functionality stand point it's brilliant. The character zoo and makeup room are both almost directly beneath that building and the utilidors connect to the back of it. The princesses could easily switch out through the day and break in thier existing break rooms downstairs.
 

NoChesterHester

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Not sure I'm thrilled about losing SWSA, but from a functionality stand point it's brilliant. The character zoo and makeup room are both almost directly beneath that building and the utilidors connect to the back of it. The princesses could easily switch out through the day and break in thier existing break rooms downstairs.

Cool to hear that from an operational standpoint. If done right, that could be a great location for meet and greets. Thanks for sharing.
 

jt04

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OK, been studying aerial and blueprints and here is my latest opinions....

Unless they have canceled the chateau and millhouse in the last week they are going forward. It is possible the facilities are being repurposed but it clearly seems the foundations are underway.

Dumbo going between village haus and Belle's village is unlikely but not impossible. The construction most resembles the entrance and bridge to Belle's village as seen on the blueprints. And there was a permit pulled for a FL "bridge". Also a tunnel but that is another story.

The teacups are close enough to pooh to be rethemed to that franchise. I wouldn't be suprised to see them get a thatched roof similar to mrs potts. I suspect before all is said and done the eatery will be renamed to fit better with the 100 acre woods mini-land I think is on the way.

If a new atttraction is on the way as Lee is telling us, I think it will go where the original Dumbo was shown on the blueprints. In other words, the northern half of FL east.

Dumbo seems destined for the southern half of FL east but I think they may be considering this spot for Snow White by utilizing the coaster.


That is my opinion until we get the next aerial photos. :lol:
 

SeaCastle

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OK, been studying aerial and blueprints and here is my latest opinions....

Unless they have canceled the chateau and millhouse in the last week they are going forward. It is possible the facilities are being repurposed but it clearly seems the foundations are underway.

Arrows, please. I see no foundations underway. Just a bunch of dirt.

Dumbo going between village haus and Belle's village is unlikely but not impossible. The construction most resembles the entrance and bridge to Belle's village as seen on the blueprints. And there was a permit pulled for a FL "bridge". Also a tunnel but that is another story.

Dumbo is going over by the Speedway. The Belle/Beauty and the Beast area is going forward as announced. If you look at the artwork/blueprints there are several bridges.

The teacups are close enough to pooh to be rethemed to that franchise. I wouldn't be suprised to see them get a thatched roof similar to mrs potts. I suspect before all is said and done the eatery will be renamed to fit better with the 100 acre woods mini-land I think is on the way.

The teacups are staying Wonderland themed.

If a new atttraction is on the way as Lee is telling us, I think it will go where the original Dumbo was shown on the blueprints. In other words, the northern half of FL east.

Dumbo seems destined for the southern half of FL east but I think they may be considering this spot for Snow White by utilizing the coaster.


That is my opinion until we get the next aerial photos. :lol:

The attraction on the way is going into the land previously occupied by the chateau. We don't know what's going into the empty land in FL east (well, at least most of us.) Barnstormer is getting re-themed as part of the circus theme that will be apparently prevalent in FL East. Nothing points to Barnstormer being Snow White themed. In the original expansion plans (the ones neither leaked or announced) it was always supposed to be a standalone coaster.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
OK, been studying aerial and blueprints and here is my latest opinions....

Unless they have canceled the chateau and millhouse in the last week they are going forward. It is possible the facilities are being repurposed but it clearly seems the foundations are underway.

Dumbo going between village haus and Belle's village is unlikely but not impossible. The construction most resembles the entrance and bridge to Belle's village as seen on the blueprints. And there was a permit pulled for a FL "bridge". Also a tunnel but that is another story.

The teacups are close enough to pooh to be rethemed to that franchise. I wouldn't be suprised to see them get a thatched roof similar to mrs potts. I suspect before all is said and done the eatery will be renamed to fit better with the 100 acre woods mini-land I think is on the way.

If a new atttraction is on the way as Lee is telling us, I think it will go where the original Dumbo was shown on the blueprints. In other words, the northern half of FL east.

Dumbo seems destined for the southern half of FL east but I think they may be considering this spot for Snow White by utilizing the coaster.


That is my opinion until we get the next aerial photos. :lol:

I know you believe you see foundations, but personally I think everything we are seeing other then Little Mermaid is just site prep and drainage work.

As for the area between village haus and Belle's village, the markings on the ground in the aerial view are clearly remnants of Scuttle's Landing and Ariel's Grotto. The one further from Village Haus is the octagonal shape of Scuttle's Landing.

Dan

PS. Is it just me or do other people get spellings of Ariel and aerial mixed up when writing these posts!
 

jt04

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Arrows, please. I see no foundations underway. Just a bunch of dirt.

Earthwork is part of the foundation. That underway matches the blueprints EXACTLY.



Dumbo is going over by the Speedway. The Belle/Beauty and the Beast area is going forward as announced. If you look at the artwork/blueprints there are several bridges.

Even Lee says they might be reconsidering Dumbo. I agree.



The teacups are staying Wonderland themed.

No, I'm not nearly so sure but would love to see any proof.



The attraction on the way is going into the land previously occupied by the chateau. We don't know what's going into the empty land in FL east (well, at least most of us.) Barnstormer is getting re-themed as part of the circus theme that will be apparently prevalent in FL East. Nothing points to Barnstormer being Snow White themed. In the original expansion plans (the ones neither leaked or announced) it was always supposed to be a standalone coaster.

Sorry, not buying it. It would be just too coincidental that the earthwork underway would be so similar to the chateau's footprint. And it would mean the decision has been made and we have nobody claiming that.

Nothing points to the barnstormer being rethemed as anything at this point in time. Obviously that will not remain the case. Something is being considered

Not questioning you cred but are you communicating with an insider or are you just summerizing what Lee has told us? Because if you have insider sources that agree with Lee's presumably seperate sources than that would be more meaningful.


PS- I realize there will be several bridges but the permit was for only one at this point. And one tunnel too.
 

SeaCastle

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Earthwork is part of the foundation. That underway matches the blueprints EXACTLY.

Earthwork is not foundation. I'm still not seeing how 50 foot high piles of dirt is matching the blueprints exactly, but hey, believe what you want.

Even Lee says they might be reconsidering Dumbo. I agree.

Got a link? The only other place of Dumbo being located I can think of is back where Pixie Hollow was in the art. I find it odd you're back in the "believing-every-word-Lee-says" phase again, considering you were vehemently disagreeing with him that the Fantasyland expansion plans were changing. :rolleyes:


No, I'm not nearly so sure but would love to see any proof.
Lee said so. :lol:

Sorry, not buying it. It would be just too coincidental that the earthwork underway would be so similar to the chateau's footprint. And it would mean the decision has been made and we have nobody claiming that.

Still not seeing how Dirt Mountain is completely and utterly in line with the chateau's footprint. Just because the dirt is in the area of the chateau doesn't guarantee in any way, shape, or form that the chateau is happening.

Nothing points to the barnstormer being rethemed as anything at this point in time. Obviously that will not remain the case. Something is being considered

Do you happen to read all of the posts or just the ones that agree with your claims? Just wondering.

Not questioning you cred but are you communicating with an insider or are you just summerizing what Lee has told us? Because if you have insider sources that agree with Lee's presumably seperate sources than that would be more meaningful.

PS- I realize there will be several bridges but the permit was for only one at this point. And one tunnel too.

I am not communicating with an insider. I am re-stating the "insider" posts on this subject because you seem to be missing the point.
 

jt04

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Earthwork is not foundation. I'm still not seeing how 50 foot high piles of dirt is matching the blueprints exactly, but hey, believe what you want.



Got a link? The only other place of Dumbo being located I can think of is back where Pixie Hollow was in the art. I find it odd you're back in the "believing-every-word-Lee-says" phase again, considering you were vehemently disagreeing with him that the Fantasyland expansion plans were changing. :rolleyes:



Lee said so. :lol:



Still not seeing how Dirt Mountain is completely and utterly in line with the chateau's footprint. Just because the dirt is in the area of the chateau doesn't guarantee in any way, shape, or form that the chateau is happening.



Do you happen to read all of the posts or just the ones that agree with your claims? Just wondering.



I am not communicating with an insider. I am re-stating the "insider" posts on this subject because you seem to be missing the point.

OK, it is good to know as it helps place your conclusions in proper context. There have been hints from insiders here and elsewhere that Dumbo could be eliminated from the FLE. I think it is possible.

If you compare the latest aerial photo side by side with the original blueprints it clearly seems the chateau is underway. Now maybe it has been repurposed from the announced m&g but they seem to be building the chateau. The next aerial photo may prove me wrong......or not.
 

juan

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OK, it is good to know as it helps place your conclusions in proper context. There have been hints from insiders here and elsewhere that Dumbo could be eliminated from the FLE. I think it is possible.

If you compare the latest aerial photo side by side with the original blueprints it clearly seems the chateau is underway. Now maybe it has been repurposed from the announced m&g but they seem to be building the chateau. The next aerial photo may prove me wrong......or not.

Dumbo is staying
That's not a chatteau

Just because I can't tell you exactly what is going on, I can still tell you what is not going on. Your assumptions are wrong, please quit re-posting the same old dribble page after page. :brick:
 

SeaCastle

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OK, it is good to know as it helps place your conclusions in proper context. There have been hints from insiders here and elsewhere that Dumbo could be eliminated from the FLE. I think it is possible.

If you compare the latest aerial photo side by side with the original blueprints it clearly seems the chateau is underway. Now maybe it has been repurposed from the announced m&g but they seem to be building the chateau. The next aerial photo may prove me wrong......or not.

Links to those "hints" of Dumbo being cut are greatly appreciated. I check this thread constantly (and unlike you, pay attention to everything, not just what I want to hear) and haven't seen anything like that.

Again, there is nothing showing the chateau is underway. (Heck, Disney is pretending it doesn't even exist. There's no concept art on the walls for the chateau, and at the NASA presentation Imagineer Jack Blitch completely skipped over it.) I'm not sure why you're so hostile to the prospect of something replacing the chateau. :shrug:
 

Captain Chaos

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Reading jt's posts is worse than hearing Glen Beck scream America is becoming a communist nation because of X, Y, Z conspiracy theories...

It is time to start ignoring his posts people.... When you stop feeding, he will leave...
 

jt04

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Dumbo is staying
That's not a chatteau

Just because I can't tell you exactly what is going on, I can still tell you what is not going on. Your assumptions are wrong, please quit re-posting the same old dribble page after page. :brick:

Proof please. That is all I'm asking. If you were so certain of your claims you would not be so defensive about theories coming from someone who acknowledges has no insider contacts.

The problem is your fanboy hopes and spin don't hold up to scrutiny. Simple as that.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Reading jt's posts is worse than hearing Glen Beck scream America is becoming a communist nation because of X, Y, Z conspiracy theories...

It is time to start ignoring his posts people.... When you stop feeding, he will leave...

Didn't you know we don't mention conspiracies around here? :)

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jt04

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Reading jt's posts is worse than hearing Glen Beck scream America is becoming a communist nation because of X, Y, Z conspiracy theories...

It is time to start ignoring his posts people.... When you stop feeding, he will leave...

Only closeted commies are worried about beck.

This site is no politics none of the time so can we get back to discussing WDW and the FLE.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Only closeted commies are worried about beck.

This site is no politics none of the time so can we get back to discussing WDW and the FLE.

You really shouldn't lecture anyone about not bringing politics into a discussion........
 

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