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[photomatt]

you know cars will kill more people today than this shooter right?

How many of those deaths will be intentional?

 

[Andrew C]

If you're a normal person with a normal job in a normal town, and you need to own a weapon with no purpose other than killing people in the 21st century, then you're doing being a human being wrong.

Another false narrative.

 

[Matt_Black]

Another false narrative.

Says the guy peddling the "Islam is bad" rhetoric....

 

[Hakunamatata]

If you're a normal person with a normal job in a normal town, and you need to own a weapon with no purpose other than killing people in the 21st century, then you're doing being a human being wrong.

Um. Weapons are not created just to kill people. So your statement above is not accurate.

 

[Andrew C]

Says the guy peddling the "Islam is bad" rhetoric....

Never said Islam is bad. Once.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Says the guy peddling the "Islam is bad" rhetoric....

Nope. Radical Islam is bad. Islam is the religion of peace.

 

[photomatt]

really whiney about people owning them.

Whiney? OK...

I will make you a deal. I will stop being "whiney" when you stop being selfish, and put the good of society over your own personal desire to own a weapon with no other purpose other than to kill large numbers of humans at once. Fair? I think so.

 

[matt9112]

And obviously, in this case, someone screwed up big time.

what he used is not an assault rifle.

 

[senor_jorge]

This is true, but as I said before, if we prevent access to the tools that inflict the most casualties, the number of people murdered will decrease.

That list will be incredibly long, and diverse.

 

[matt9112]

Whiney? OK...

I will make you a deal. I will stop being "whiney" when you stop being selfish, and put the good of society over your own personal desire to own a weapon with no other purpose other than to kill large numbers of humans at once. Fair? I think so.

theres more guns in this country than humans but im selfish? its me? just me? lol ok

 

[photomatt]

Not buying into your definition of what a weapon of mass destruction is. That's just a scare tactic.

How do you define mass destruction? You don't think the murder of 50 people in a few minutes qualifies?

 

[photomatt]

With guns, we allow their use (if you are of legal age). We criminalize shooting people because that is an avoidable action.

See. I think the same thing makes sense about guns.

You have a good point. The problem is that we don't seem to be avoiding the shootings. We make them more severe than they could be, by allowing private ownership of weapons that have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of humans in a short period of time.

 

[Hakunamatata]

You have a good point. The problem is that we don't seem to be avoiding the shootings. We make them more severe than they could be, by allowing private ownership of weapons that have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of humans in a short period of time.

I still hold the position that removing the gun from the law abiding won't solve the problem. Gun or rice cooker, evil doers will find a way to inflict massive amounts of evil.

 

[photomatt]

theres more guns in this country than humans but im selfish? its me? just me? lol ok

No. I think all people who privately own assault rifles, or other weapons that only exist to kill large numbers of humans at once, are selfish. You're right. I need to make that more clear.

 

[photomatt]

I still hold the position that removing the gun from the law abiding won't solve the problem. Gun or rice cooker, evil doers will find a way to inflict massive amounts of evil.

I guess you chose to ignore the statistics I posted. The facts don't support your claim.

 

[RSoxNo1]

This is true, but it is not a reason to allow private citizens to own weapons of mass destruction.

Not buying into your definition of what a weapon of mass destruction is. That's just a scare tactic.

How do you define mass destruction? You don't think the murder of 50 people in a few minutes qualifies?

Matt, I understand your argument but I think one most people say weapon of mass destruction they're thinking a bomb, possible nuclear.

If you're a normal person with a normal job in a normal town, and you need to own a weapon with no purpose other than killing people in the 21st century, then you're doing being a human being wrong.

I disagree with this. I had a friend that worked in a crappy part of Roxbury Massachusetts. There are plenty of bad cities/towns/neighborhoods in this country and the world. He got a concealed carry permit after being robbed at gunpoint. I have absolutely no reservations about a responsible gun owner going through the necessary steps and appropriate training to protect him/herself.

 

[Hakunamatata]

No. I think all people who privately own assault rifles, or other weapons that only exist to kill large numbers of humans at once, are selfish. You're right. I need to make that more clear.

I think you are judgemental. As a society are we not supposed to have moved past judging others beliefs and lifestyles?

 

[BrerJon]

Um. Weapons are not created just to kill people. So your statement above is not accurate.

OK, what use does an average person in the street have of an assault rifle, except for killing people?

 

[Sir_Cliff]

your point? i love this country and all of its flaws more than you know.....this kind of talk is what is so low.

Honestly, have at it.

All I'll say as an Australian now living in Germany, by now the rest of the world looks at the endless parade of mass shootings in the US as the bargain Americans seem content to make in order to nurture their idiosyncratic love affair with guns. It doesn't make sense looking from the outside, but so be it.

 

[Hakunamatata]

OK, what use does an average person in the street have of an assault rifle, except for killing people?

Target practice. Competition shooting. Hunting/managing invasive species.