jdmdisney99
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Seriously. Why does everything have to be so complicated? Can't we just wait in line anymore?
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New Return Procedure at Soarin'
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Macca250
Well-Known Member
NO! You have to pay hundreds of dollars to be denied the privilege of queuing for two hours.......wait, what?!
flynnibus
Premium Member
Not really - this is about overflow. It tries to cap the standby line at a reasonable level.. and when that level is exceeded.. then goto return times.
flynnibus
Premium Member
This is why they put signs up OUTSIDE the building saying "no more FPs" - they should have put the return information outside
DoctorDisney
Active Member
Exactly as @flynnibus stated above, it's about overflow. They're trying to still make sure guests can get on the ride, but not have to wait for hours in a line. It's a three-day test, and today is the final day of it, for now. It's the same system they tested with Anna and Elsa at MK about a week ago.
Reading through this entire thread, the negativity is insane. Sure, you may not like the test, and that's perfectly understandable. But if you feel you're spending too much money or Disney isn't looking appealing to you...you don't have to go.
Disney is trying out new methods to cut down on some of the longer standby lines for guests. Don't really see the advantage for them...to stop more guests getting on an attraction. But again, it's a test and they want to see how it works and get feedback to change/alter things.
For example, listening to guests who asked for more than 3 FPs a day.
Reading through this entire thread, the negativity is insane. Sure, you may not like the test, and that's perfectly understandable. But if you feel you're spending too much money or Disney isn't looking appealing to you...you don't have to go.
Disney is trying out new methods to cut down on some of the longer standby lines for guests. Don't really see the advantage for them...to stop more guests getting on an attraction. But again, it's a test and they want to see how it works and get feedback to change/alter things.
For example, listening to guests who asked for more than 3 FPs a day.
tsaintc
Well-Known Member
The outrage and negativity in this thread is truly unreal...
'How can Disney do this to us?? I cannot believe that they are trying to accommodate those guests who would not typically get a chance to experience an attraction! Universal would never stoop to this level...'
http://www.orlandoinformer.com/universal/harry-potter-world-return-tickets/
I honestly need to stop visiting this site. The negativity is overwhelming. I suspect half of the haters have never step foot in WDW.
'How can Disney do this to us?? I cannot believe that they are trying to accommodate those guests who would not typically get a chance to experience an attraction! Universal would never stoop to this level...'
http://www.orlandoinformer.com/universal/harry-potter-world-return-tickets/
I honestly need to stop visiting this site. The negativity is overwhelming. I suspect half of the haters have never step foot in WDW.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I have. I own DVC. I go every year, sometimes twice a year.
They just spent at minimum, a BILLION, with a B, dollars, to get ride of paper FP. And now, they are testing out, paper FPs. Nonsense.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
In this case, it is indeed absurd. Disney is trying to come up with a system to keep 240 minute waits from forming.
Does anyone on this website really get in line for Soarin' when it has a 3- to 4-hour wait? Really?
Despite the outrage, I somehow doubt many on this website will actually see a negative impact. Most of us know to either FP+ the ride or rush there in the morning. Neither strategy is impacted.
Mammymouse
Well-Known Member
I'm waiting for the latest MM+ "new and improved way to visit Disneyworld"!! - Each visit requires a mandatory passing grade on a SAT type test before admittance into each Park. Of course it can be done 60 days in advance. That way only the worthy (or really rich) will be allowed in. 
OMG I've really gone to the Dark side. I seriously need to hit the B vitamins today!!
OMG I've really gone to the Dark side. I seriously need to hit the B vitamins today!!
azox
Well-Known Member
Well said. What if you are park hopping? You have to make sure that this is the first attraction to go to then? And whats to stop people with fast passes for soarin already on their magic band from grabbing a paper fast pass too? The line of people helps to control the demand while allowing anyone to ride it. There is only so much capacity that ride can handle and they really must be pushing it. Hopefully Epcot will get a few more highly desired attractions to spread the crowds out or at least that third theater
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Here is what gets impacted, I think, if I am reading this right...
Sometimes, towards the end of the night, lines drop precipitously. You can grab a ride on a marquee attraction with little to no wait.
Now, you won't be able to, unless you got there before 5pm, and got a paper ticket.
rct247
Well-Known Member
I think the biggest reason people are so negative about it is that it causes more fuss than it is worth. It like the who US switching to Metric arguement. It has perfect intentions, but it is so much hassle to get people to change that it would turn out to have a negative impact more than positive.
It really only tackles an issue with the queue when it is super long. To change an entire queue system based on the attendance can confuse or throw a wrench in guests' plans no matter how seasoned you are. I would assume they wouldn't use this if the wait doesn't need it.
How often do you hear of two way streets around your town becoming one way during peak periods? They do exist in some cases, but there are lots of communication for those, but even then they have set times and days. I don't know if you can predict it to always be needed during certain hours on certain days all the time.
It really only tackles an issue with the queue when it is super long. To change an entire queue system based on the attendance can confuse or throw a wrench in guests' plans no matter how seasoned you are. I would assume they wouldn't use this if the wait doesn't need it.
How often do you hear of two way streets around your town becoming one way during peak periods? They do exist in some cases, but there are lots of communication for those, but even then they have set times and days. I don't know if you can predict it to always be needed during certain hours on certain days all the time.
tsaintc
Well-Known Member
The key word is 'test'. I suspect that if they choose to implement this in the future, they could simply replace paper with the FP+ kiosk approach. Therefore, on a busy day, when they know that FPs are unavailable, they could switch to this process. Paper is a quick and dirty way to test the process without the need to spend money to program the FP+ system.
Through my pixie dust covered glases, it seems like a much better way to assist those without FPs. Or, would you prefer that they just sit back and not address the issue of 100+ min standby during peak season? I guess most folks in this thread would rather stand in queue for 2 hours rather than enjoy the rest of what the park has to offer. I personally applaud the fact the they are trying to further fine-tune the guest experience.
Based on my experience, the overhaul of the paper FP system to FP+ was a huge success. I no longer have to worry running around the park to grab passes. And I like the ability to plan in advance. Our recent trip was far more relaxing than previous visits. Although we were extremely skeptical of the new process, now that we have experienced it in person, we love the new system. It worked perfectly for us.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Well, what I'd PREFER, is for them to add more attractions to reduce wait times at existing attractions...
COProgressFan
Well-Known Member
Or, perish the thought, a whole NEW attraction that would draw crowds away from Soarin'....
Kman101
Well-Known Member
Haha. I know. What a novel concept.
And don't they realize once they switch Soarin' to the new film in the next year or two (whenever that will be), it's likely going to remain just as popular? Attractions are key here. They just don't get it and this once more just verifies to me how much they just do NOT want to spend money. It's really really sad.
tsaintc
Well-Known Member
I cannot argue with that...