new projects around the World

brisem

Well-Known Member
If you read Iger's Letter to the Shareholders, the next to last paragraph--Iger states that " conceptionual artwork of projects we are building, developing or still dreaming about. Some will open soon, some may never be built, but all of them will give you a unique window into what's on the horizon at Disney, and what our imagineers have on their drawing boards."
 

IcicleM

New Member
The Route 66 Area of Disney's California Adventure is being taken out and replaced by Carland and/or "Radiator Springs" which makes absolutely perfect sense.
 

alanindy

New Member
Ok, let me muck up the water even more. About the "new night time water spectacular" image ..... what about the new Epcot show rumored to start this October?

Wasn't it supposed to be called Sky dance, as per the Don Dorsey Productions web site? Perhaps that rendering is of the new Epcot show. I have no clue, but just throwing it out there.
 

Epcot82Guy

Well-Known Member
Ok, let me muck up the water even more. About the "new night time water spectacular" image ..... what about the new Epcot show rumored to start this October?

Wasn't it supposed to be called Sky dance, as per the Don Dorsey Productions web site? Perhaps that rendering is of the new Epcot show. I have no clue, but just throwing it out there.

As was discussed in the other thread, the design plan there would make no sense in both theme and execution. That art clearly has a sided perspective with the screens and/or water screens. This is not showing a circular show like Illuminations always has/will be. Also, there is nothing even remotely international about the displays. So, it would make no sense in Epcot. This would much more likely be heading to a smaller lagoon where there is a "side" that people view from.
 

NASAMan

Member
EDIT: Please note the following is my own guess of what the pics mean

The urban entertainment center is in Chicago, look at the skyline, it's Chicago.

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What in this image makes you think the skyline is Chicago? All I see are nondescript buildings at a distance - so is this entertainment center to be built in Grant Park?

Sorry to pile on, but I doubt Disney would place this in Chicago after closing DisneyQuest. But that i just my opinion.
 

mousermerf

Account Suspended
new update!!

after going back through the paperwork filled with the county, it looks like they are installing a traveling water screen at AK. Could this be part of the nighttime show?????
Link to the paperwork:
http://officialrecords.occompt.com/...id=28225144&file_num=20060485913&doc_status=V



Umm. No.


A traveling water screen is nothing grand and mazing. It's a piece of a machinery that removes debris from a pool of water like a retention pond to prevent the run-off and drainage systems from getting clogged. It resembles a conveyor belt made up of ladder rungs and things like tree branches and other stuff get snagged on it, whisked out of the water, and moved away from cloggabled pipes and tubes.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
...Because WDW is being refurbished first. :wave:
So Disney has now lowered its standards so much that we are to accept refurbishments as acceptable in place of new attractions? Not that I'm not excited to see the Haunted Mansion finally get fixed, but I'm not about to laud Disney's laziness. Disneyland is ALWAYS getting refurbished and they still build new rides.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
So Disney has now lowered its standards so much that we are to accept refurbishments as acceptable in place of new attractions? Not that I'm not excited to see the Haunted Mansion finally get fixed, but I'm not about to laud Disney's laziness. Disneyland is ALWAYS getting refurbished and they still build new rides.
In all fairness Disneyland is still being brought upto standards from the late 90`s / early 00`s period of neglect. The park was literally being run into the ground by incompetence from management (thankfully a lot of that hierarchy has now gone) - the park was physically falling apart.

New rides being added are in part still patching up the mess of the same time period. The Subs were meant to be returning every year - but isntead were just rotting away. The Circlevision theatre was converted into Buzz Lightyear since it was sitting unused as the Rocket Rods queue (another late 90`s mess -the track is still an unwelcome reminder). Space Mountain needed it`s huge rehab, again due to lack of understanding of how to do things right (the tacked-on sound system strained the track too much)

What irks me is that a rehashed parade, or marketing promotion, is taking the place of a new attraction. On the all too brief occassion a new attraction opens that is worthy of attention, said attraction is then milked as `new` for 2 or 3 years after it opens by marketing. Imagine what would happen today if Tomorrowland phase 2 opened?? In the space of 13 months Star Jets, Carousel of Progress, Space Mountain, WEDWay Peoplemover and the Mission to Mars makeover all opened. It`d be like a 5th gate!
 

Lee

Adventurer
The Route 66 Area of Disney's California Adventure is being taken out and replaced by Carland and/or "Radiator Springs" which makes absolutely perfect sense.

Nope. It's going across the park in the Bountiful Valley Farm area and use some of the Timon parking lot.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
So Disney has now lowered its standards so much that we are to accept refurbishments as acceptable in place of new attractions? Not that I'm not excited to see the Haunted Mansion finally get fixed, but I'm not about to laud Disney's laziness. Disneyland is ALWAYS getting refurbished and they still build new rides.

Marni's post is essentially the same reply that I was going to write. Disneyland is not "ALWAYS getting refurbished"; prior to its 50th anniversary celebration, the park had not been truly refurbished for over a decade. The recent TLC at DL is only to restore the attractions that were damaged during the Pressler years. Some Internet bloggers simply write about these fixes as if WDI is obsessed with DL and is ignoring WDW (hint: not true).

Just the same, I agree with you: a refurbishment is not an excuse for the recent lack of attractions at WDW. Expedition Everest opened in a park that needed a good E-ticket anyway; and one high-profile ride within the last five years is not a good track record.

Yet specifically regarding the MK, WDI is focusing on refurbishing everything before adding new attractions. I agree that this is a good plan: why waste money building a new E-ticket if the classics are already dilapidated? This would merely mimic what Pressler did at DL with DCA--build some mediocre, new attractions and ignore what already exists. Don't worry about new attractions. As Lee can confirm, several big ideas for Florida are floating around.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
=What irks me is that a rehashed parade, or marketing promotion, is taking the place of a new attraction. On the all too brief occassion a new attraction opens that is worthy of attention, said attraction is then milked as `new` for 2 or 3 years after it opens by marketing. Imagine what would happen today if Tomorrowland phase 2 opened?? In the space of 13 months Star Jets, Carousel of Progress, Space Mountain, WEDWay Peoplemover and the Mission to Mars makeover all opened. It`d be like a 5th gate!

Like the "new" Wishes fireworks, or the "new" SaDCT parade that finally ended, or the "temporary," bargain-basement wand over SSE that exists to welcome the new millennium?

You're right. Instead of moving into new territories, which WDW was partly designed to do, the WDW Marketing Dept touts established attractions as "new" as long as they can. But it's not really their fault that few things other than DVC hotels are being built. :animwink:
 

Scar Junior

Active Member
...Because WDW is being refurbished first. :wave:

Yep! I can understand the frustration people have over getting "screwed" this year. But they don't realize we've been screwed for years. These are the first steps - the right steps - to improving WDW.

Why build more when WDW hasn't shown that they can adequately maintain what they have now? Once they prove they can keep track of what they have, I will be in favor of additions. That isn't to say that I need ALL the embarassments to be improved/changed... but baby steps people! Baby steps.

For example: I would like to see WoL and UoE fixed before new additions go into Epcot, but if they were to announce a new country or attraction for a country I would support it... because I feel WS has also been neglected for years.

(for the record, I was agreeing with what you said, just arguing with you)

So Disney has now lowered its standards so much that we are to accept refurbishments as acceptable in place of new attractions? Not that I'm not excited to see the Haunted Mansion finally get fixed, but I'm not about to laud Disney's laziness. Disneyland is ALWAYS getting refurbished and they still build new rides.

Look dude, the lowered standards aren't new. They are just catching up. It's like if you have 4 classes and in finals week you have to cram in 2 papers and 3 tests in 3 or 4 days. You didn't just fall behind. You fell behind a long time before then.

Disneyland's direction is the direction of WDW. DCA is being retooled into something that actually has a chance at being successful. (The foreign parks I'm empathetic about.) These are steps in the right direction. "Rome wasn't built in a day" ... you know what was built in a few days, Dinorama. That's the kind of crap that new management is trying to fix. But it happens with Baby Steps. The new theme of this administration is just that: Baby steps.

Yeah, it's not the way Disney should be. They should be reaching for the stars!!! But it's hard to reach for the stars when you are several feet underground. They need to build back to where they once were... this will take 1.5-2 years... then other changes can happen

I would comment more on this, but Marni said what I was going to say...

In all fairness Disneyland is still being brought upto standards from the late 90`s / early 00`s period of neglect. The park was literally being run into the ground by incompetence from management (thankfully a lot of that hierarchy has now gone) - the park was physically falling apart.
 

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