yaksplat
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I guess my FB group Tikibar Automation is in there too. I've been meaning to buy a copy.
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News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024
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Bocabear
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I am arguing for the structures within the "Polynesian Village Resort" to actually be themed and designed to evoke the thematic location...in a way that feels grounded in the original design of the resort and furthers the thematic integrity....
peter11435
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Bocabear
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That was "an original design for the Resort" not THE original as-built design for the resort.... So we have what we have.....and the new building would not look great next to this "Waikiki 1968" version either...
peter11435
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The new building shares a lot of similarities with the original design in that concept art. And that building was meant to be surrounded by nearly the same out buildings we have today.
Sir_Cliff
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This was also an early concept for the Euro Disneyland centrepiece, but I think most people are glad they went with what ended up being built:
peter11435
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Remarkable
yensidtlaw1969
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I feel like I agree that the new tower is not particularly harmonious with what came before, even if they're pulling influence from an early concept for Disney's Polynesian. That tower design may have been a valid approach on its own, but it does feel more generic and less evocative than what was actually built, and this new tower feels out of place alongside the Great Ceremonial House and other existing buildings.
I'm looking forward to the MK view from the rooftop restaurant, and I hope the interior will be more interesting than the exterior. But based on the art and the construction this does so far seem to stick out like a sore thumb.
I'm looking forward to the MK view from the rooftop restaurant, and I hope the interior will be more interesting than the exterior. But based on the art and the construction this does so far seem to stick out like a sore thumb.
James Alucobond
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To me, the two big problems are that a) this looks unbalanced from some lagoon views and b) it doesn’t allow for sufficient breathing room between the Polynesian and Grand, with potential significant impacts to the wedding pavilion.
That said, I do think the Polynesian will benefit from the additional pool and dining capacity, and from within the resort itself, I don’t totally hate the progression from bungalows to longhouses to low tower since the reveal is more gradual when you actually walk through the space. The degree to which it will ultimately bother me will probably depend in part on how well it is finished and how consistent the dressing of the communal spaces is with the rest of the resort. Honestly, if that is done well, the revised monorail station and entrance to the GCH will rank higher on my annoyance list since elements of that are blatantly cheap.
That said, I do think the Polynesian will benefit from the additional pool and dining capacity, and from within the resort itself, I don’t totally hate the progression from bungalows to longhouses to low tower since the reveal is more gradual when you actually walk through the space. The degree to which it will ultimately bother me will probably depend in part on how well it is finished and how consistent the dressing of the communal spaces is with the rest of the resort. Honestly, if that is done well, the revised monorail station and entrance to the GCH will rank higher on my annoyance list since elements of that are blatantly cheap.
JenniferS
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RandySavage
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Before Iger was made CEO, the MK Resort Area - Bay Lake & Seven Seas Lagoon - was the most sublime man-made area yet built in the Post-War era, anywhere on the planet. If anyone knows of anything that compares, I'd be interesting in learning about it.
Actually-well-themed, beautiful resorts, such as below (a Venetian, thankfully, dropping the midrise from the 1970s plans, just as the Polynesian wisely did) were on the drawing table before Iger, his captains and their strategy of generic-modern, "high-ROI" mid-rises plopped all over WDW.
Iger's regime brought all the clutter and poorly-integrated DVCs (BLT, GrandFlo, bungalows, cabins, this Poly modern midrise thing). Then there's the Tron box, the Polynesian interior and landscape downgrades... [sigh] today the MK Resort Area is a shadow of its apex around 1999. It's a travesty that someone like Iger - full of avarice, questionable architectural taste and zero Vision - was to be this Modern Wonder's failed steward.
Actually-well-themed, beautiful resorts, such as below (a Venetian, thankfully, dropping the midrise from the 1970s plans, just as the Polynesian wisely did) were on the drawing table before Iger, his captains and their strategy of generic-modern, "high-ROI" mid-rises plopped all over WDW.
Iger's regime brought all the clutter and poorly-integrated DVCs (BLT, GrandFlo, bungalows, cabins, this Poly modern midrise thing). Then there's the Tron box, the Polynesian interior and landscape downgrades... [sigh] today the MK Resort Area is a shadow of its apex around 1999. It's a travesty that someone like Iger - full of avarice, questionable architectural taste and zero Vision - was to be this Modern Wonder's failed steward.
Animaniac93-98
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Bay Lake Tower is clearly what set the standard for WDW hotels going forward.
A big high-rise with views, that's what people want. Never mind what it looks like on the outside or next to something.
A big high-rise with views, that's what people want. Never mind what it looks like on the outside or next to something.
donaldtoo
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Disney Analyst
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Should I care about a pavilion a tiny percent of people get to utilize? Regardless of your thoughts on this new tower, it has for more reach, appeal, and accessibility than that wedding pavilion.
Animaniac93-98
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Buildings at WDW don't exist in a vacuum. Their visual and spatial relation to each other is critical in establishing each's setting and purpose and upholding the overall harmony of their surroundings.
It doesn't matter what the building is used for, or who uses it, visitors can see them from many angles and having wildly different architecture and mass so close to each other goes against the meticulous look of the resort.
Sightlines are important outside of the park too. That's why Walt bought all that land to begin with, to control the total environment, not just own the buildings on it.
Disney Analyst
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I get it but also… meh? It’s the prime area surrounding the world’s premiere theme park. It’s going to become built up, that’s life. That’s capitalism babeh!
lazyboy97o
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That doesn’t mean it has to be done poorly.
freediverdude
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This building looks like it will absolutely tower over the existing Poly. And if I'm counting the stories correctly, 8? 9? It looks like it will even tower over the existing 6 story GF DVC building as well. What were they thinking? The original Poly as built followed traditional Polynesian building styles, hence no balconies on the second floor for example. Yes, I know, the DVC buildings got them, but had to be extensively rehabbed to support those extra balconies. This just doesn't go with the original resort, or the GF next door. Like they built a tower just for the sake of building a tower to get a lot of units. At least BLT sort of mirrors the original tower aesthetic only curved, and similar height to the original tower. But this....
Tuvalu
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When three new longhouses were added to the Poly circa 1985, all three floors had balconies. These longhouses (Tokelau, Moorea, Pago Pago) were the ones converted to DVC. No extra exterior support was required.